Question Searching for AMD Business Grade Windows 11 laptop with solid webcam

[mikekazik1]

1. What is your budget?

$4100

2. What is the size of the notebook that you are considering?

14-16 inches

3. What screen resolution do you want?

I'm not overly concerned about resolution but I would like an anti glare screen with at least 400 nits of brightness.

4. Do you need a portable or desktop replacement laptop?

I'm not concerned about having the thinnest / lightest laptop. I would prefer something thicker if it meant there are more ports and a lower risk of overheating.

5. How much battery life do you need?

4 hours under light use

6. Do you want to play games with your laptop?

No gaming

7. What other tasks do you want to do with your laptop? (Photo/Video editing, Etc.)

It will be used heavily for video calls (teams, Whatsapp, Viber, etc).

8. How much storage (Hard Drive capacity) do you need?

1tb, I could accept 512gb if there is a 2nd empty SSD slot

9. If you are considering specific sites to buy from, please post their links.

N/A

10. How long do you want to keep your laptop?

10-15 years

11. What kind of Optical drive do you need? DVD ROM/Writer,Bluray ROM/Writer,Etc ?

I haven't seen any new laptops with optical drives.

12. Please tell us about the brands that you prefer to buy from them and the brands that you don't like and explain the reasons.

HP is my top pick because the built-in webcams on the business laptops are better than with other brands.

Dell is my 2nd choice pick.

I will not consider any Lenovo's due to the cyber security riaks associated with them and Lenovo's history of installing spyware.

Framework - it's a great idea but those laptops have a lot of issues with limited driver support, overheating, and chargers that can't charge the battery if the laptop is under load.

13. What country do you live in?

I live in the US, however the laptop will also be used in Poland a lot. Apple has a very small presence in Poland and it would be a hassle to try to repair a mac over there.

14. Please tell us any additional information if needed.

I am looking for a business grade windows 11 laptop with a good built in webcam and wifi 7. Having removable RAM is extremely important to me. Repairability is important to me.

Edit: I really want to get a unit that has an AMD cpu because Intel quality control has really gone down with the 13th and 14th gen CPUs.

 

[COLGeek]

Have you looked at any of these before?

https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-laptops-and-notebooks/sf/precision-laptops

 

[geofelt]

For quality, look at the Lenovo X1 carbon series.

 

[mikekazik1]

Have you looked at any of these before?

https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-laptops-and-notebooks/sf/precision-laptops

I apologize. I forgot to mention that I'm trying to stick with AMD, given all of the quality control issues Intel has had. I updated my post to reflect that. I did check that link you sent just now but those all have Intel processors.

 

[COLGeek]

I apologize. I forgot to mention that I'm trying to stick with AMD, given all of the quality control issues Intel has had. I updated my post to reflect that. I did check that link you sent just now but those all have Intel processors.

I understand the preference. Likely harder to find a "business class" AMD-based system.

The Precision Mobiles are robustly built, I've personally owned several over many years.

Since you ruled out Lenovo earlier (that can be mitigated by the way, but that is another discussion), that leaves you HP and Asus. Your high budget and reasonable requirements should be able to get you something much less expensive that your limit.

Something like one of these: https://www.hp.com/us-en/shop/mdp/laptops/omnibook-ultra#buy (note there are Intel and AMD models).

 

[alceryes]

A few things.

Is your budget really four thousand one hundred dollars? At that point you have your choice of more than 99% of the available laptops out there? I just want to make sure that's not a typo there.

10-15 years of use...? There is absolutely no one who can tell you that a particular laptop will last 10+ years. There are too many factors involved. The closest anyone could come to that is to tell you to buy a MacBook. Since Apple controls both the hardware manufacturing and software/OS, and targets the premium segment for their laptops, you have a higher chance of getting good longevity with a MacBook.

Don't get caught up on the business-labeled laptops. There is no guarantee that they will be better quality or last longer than your non-business laptops. I've seen two thousand dollar business laptops be dead out of the box and four hundred dollar laptops last 5 years without one issues. That label is more about making the manufacturer more money from perceived value than anything else.

 

[mikekazik1]

A few things.

Is your budget really four thousand one hundred dollars? At that point you have your choice of more than 99% of the available laptops out there? I just want to make sure that's not a typo there.

10-15 years of use...? There is absolutely no one who can tell you that a particular laptop will last 10+ years. There are too many factors involved. The closest anyone could come to that is to tell you to buy a MacBook. Since Apple controls both the hardware manufacturing and software/OS, and targets the premium segment for their laptops, you have a higher chance of getting good longevity with a MacBook.

Don't get caught up on the business-labeled laptops. There is no guarantee that they will be better quality or last longer than your non-business laptops. I've seen two thousand dollar business laptops be dead out of the box and four hundred dollar laptops last 5 years without one issues. That label is more about making the manufacturer more money from perceived value than anything else.

Yes, my budget really is $4,100, no typo here If possible, it would be nice to be able to get something for $2000 or less, but I still want high quality hardware.

I still have an hp pavillion dv6700 that I got in 2008 during the Windows Vista era. That thing still works. I don't use it very often at this point since it can't do a whole lot online and can barely play 480p youtube videos.

The thing with business laptops is that they are produced in massive numbers for large corporations. Manufacturers have a stronger incentive to prioritize quality control with corporate clients than they do with gamers and casual users. A corporation or medical network complaining to the manufacturer about an entire fleet of laptops with X issue is a much bigger red flag for them. Also, parts availability is where business laptops really shine. Since pretty much the same hardware is getting pumped out in massive numbers, it will be way easier to find parts for it, whereas next years version of the same gaming PC will have parts that are different enough to ensure they are not compatible.

I think macbooks are great from a quality control perspective. But I'm getting this laptop for an older family member who had quite a struggle with transitioning from Win7 to Win 10 and from firefox to chrome. Transitioning from windows 10 to mac os would be overwhelming and absolutely unbearable. Also, it will be used in other countries where the mac repair infrastructure is a shadow of what exists in the US.

But that being said, I am open to gaming laptops as well if they are superior to a particular business laptop.

 

[alceryes]

I know all about the whole corporate purchase/business laptops. I've been involved with orders in the hundreds of thousands of dollars in this kind of gear. I will agree on one point - longevity. Once they get a good seller that gets a good rep, those business models tend to remain available, from the mfg., for years.

Anywho, the best way for you to get many opinions here is to pick a few different models yourself and post links to them here. You have a much better chance of people posting positives or negatives about laptops you pick out than having people pick out laptops for you.