Self-Made Challenge: Cyclopentane Man

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Cyclopentane is an alkane (hydrocarbon) that is formed in a ring.

It has the chemical formula C5H10

It is fairly simple challege, "map out the infinite dungeon". As you know,
this is impossible since the infinite dungeon's levels are all random, even
previously visited ones, which is why it's a cyclo-alkene, because it's
never ending.

Rules:
From the start, go straight to the ID. From here, you must explore all
explorable parts of the level. If you do not discover any hidden doors, it's
up to you if you want to try and find them (although blocked coridoors are
obvious, they're optional to search around).

Once you've fully mapped that level, you find the stairs and walk down. Your
challenge is to dive as deep as possible before your character is
mercilessly slaughtered.

My first attempt of this is with a Grey Elf Candle wizard. I'll keep
everyone up-to-date on how it goes, it should be fairly simple, but I
suspect early low PP may be an issue. Lack of food preservation can also
hurt on the hunger aspect.

As an inexperienced player, wish me luck! :)
 
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On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 19:28:07 +0000, Adam Alexander wrote:

> Cyclopentane is an alkane (hydrocarbon) that is formed in a ring.

"Before you die, you see the ring."

You may want to add the restriction that, upon mapping the whole level,
you must go directly to the down staircase.
 
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Adam Alexander wrote:

Warning: OT chemistry

> Cyclopentane is an alkane (hydrocarbon) that is formed in a ring.

> It has the chemical formula C5H10

Yes and yes.

> It is fairly simple challege, "map out the infinite dungeon". As you know,
> this is impossible since the infinite dungeon's levels are all random, even
> previously visited ones, which is why it's a cyclo-alkene, because it's
> never ending.

You had it correct above: cycloalkane, not cycloalkene. Alkenes
contain a C=C double bond.

But why did you choose cyclopentane? Cyclohexane is the most stable
and ubiquitous cycloalkane, by far. More appropriate to a challenge
game involving the ID, methinks.
--
Andy Williams
ADOM Guidebook - http://www.andywlms.com/adom/
ADOM Guidebook Mirror - http://users.rcn.com/andy.williams/adom/
 
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"Adam Alexander" <yuffie@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Cyclopentane is an alkane (hydrocarbon) that is formed in a ring.
>
> It has the chemical formula C5H10
>
> It is fairly simple challege, "map out the infinite dungeon". As you know,
> this is impossible since the infinite dungeon's levels are all random,
> even previously visited ones, which is why it's a cyclo-alkene, because
> it's never ending.
>
> Rules:
> From the start, go straight to the ID. From here, you must explore all
> explorable parts of the level. If you do not discover any hidden doors,
> it's up to you if you want to try and find them (although blocked
> coridoors are obvious, they're optional to search around).
>
> Once you've fully mapped that level, you find the stairs and walk down.
> Your challenge is to dive as deep as possible before your character is
> mercilessly slaughtered.
>
> My first attempt of this is with a Grey Elf Candle wizard. I'll keep
> everyone up-to-date on how it goes, it should be fairly simple, but I
> suspect early low PP may be an issue. Lack of food preservation can also
> hurt on the hunger aspect.
>
> As an inexperienced player, wish me luck! :)

First few characters died until I fated a trollish necromancer. God, are
these things tough. Refuses to die, no matter what, got my furthest yet
thanks to my slaves and the incredible toughness, and the strength, as well
as the starting weapon.

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Korienne St:27 Le: 5 Wi:13 Dx:13 To:27 Ch: 6 Ap: 3 Ma:10 Pe:12
C-
DV/PV: 10/7 H: -6(74) P: 42(42) Exp: 6/10296 I9 Sp:
110

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Background Information
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Name: Korienne Race: female Troll Class: Necromancer
Eye color: black Hair color: black Complexion: tanned
Height: 8'2" Weight: 416 pounds
Age: 12 (young)
Star sign: Raven Birthday: 30/Raven (day 30 of the year)

YOUR HISTORY:
Your parents belong to the nobility. They are rich, respected,
wealthy and own more than they can count.
As a child you had to survive pretty harsh times since your parents
seemed to have run out of luck. Their wealth was ever-declining and times
were very hard.
During your youth you had a lot of fun playing with other kids of
your age. You always were a natural leader and the center of interest.
Your young adulthood was characterized by hard and long work. You
had decided to study under a renowned master. To your great disappointment
you had to find out, that he was a hard, unjust and tyrannic man,
embittered by his old age. Your apprentice years were quite terrible.
You decided to become a Necromancer.


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Inventory
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Total weight: 1835 stones Carrying capacity: 3975 stones

Head : -
Neck : -
Body : uncursed ring mail (-1, -1) [+0, +3] [300s]
Girdle : -
Cloak : -
Right Hand : uncursed heavy skull club (+1, 1d10+3) [-1, +0] [120s]
Left Hand : -
Right Ring : uncursed ring of stun resistance [1s]
Left Ring : -
Bracers : -
Gauntlets : -
Boots : uncursed light boots [+0, +0] [20s]
Missile weapon: -
Missiles : bundle of 4 uncursed drakish scurgari (+2, 1d8+2) [40s]
Tool : -


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Stuff
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Total weight: 1354 stones Carrying capacity: 3975 stones

Armor ('[')
<Snip two robes>
Boots ('[')
<Snip some boots and sandals>
Two-handed weapons ('(')
uncursed skull staff (+0, 1d10+1) <Starting weapon> [40s]
Missiles ('/')
bundle of 19 uncursed arrows (+3, 1d6+1) <Lost my bow early game> [38s]
Tools (']')
uncursed triangular key [1s]
blessed fireproof blanket [10s]
Rings ('=')
uncursed ring of mental stability [+0, +1] {Le+1} [1s]
Wands ('\')
uncursed wand of stunning (1 charge) [3s]
Potions ('!')
uncursed potion of water [4s]
blessed potion of cure poison [2s]
Scrolls ('?')
uncursed scroll of power [2s]
blessed scroll of balance [2s]
Books ('"')
uncursed spellbook of Fireball [100s]
uncursed spellbook of Frost Bolt [100s]
uncursed spellbook of Knock [100s]
cursed spellbook of Light [100s]
uncursed spellbook of Magic Lock [100s]
uncursed spellbook of Magic Lock [100s]
Food ('%')
heap of 2 uncursed large rations [400s]
uncursed iron ration [100s]
heap of 4 uncursed bones [16s]
Valuables ('$')
1986 gold pieces [19s]


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Weapon Skills
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Melee weapon Lvl Hit Dam DV Level Required marks
--------------------- --- --- --- -- ------------- --------------
Unarmed fighting 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 13
<Disarmed mid fight, didn't notice. Ruddy swordsmen.>
Daggers & knives 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 30
Clubs & hammers 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 30
Maces & flails 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 30
Swords 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 30
Axes 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 30
Whips 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 30
Pole arms 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 30
Twohanded weapons 4 +4 +4 +1 skilled 145
<My starting skull club. Awesome weapon.>
Staves 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 30

Missile weapon Lvl Hit Dam Ra Level Required marks
--------------------- --- --- --- -- ------------- --------------
Slings 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 14
Bows 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 12
<What little marks I got before my bow exploded in a fire :(>
Crossbows 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 14
Thrown axes & hammers 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 14
Thrown daggers 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 14
Thrown rocks & clubs 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 14
Thrown spears 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 14
Boomerangs & scurgari 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 13
<Found little use for these, I got them and then 1 turn later got my
needed slave>

Shields Lvl DV Level Required marks
--------------------- --- --- ------------- --------------
Shields 0 +0 unskilled 30


Damage caused with your melee weapons:
--------------------------------------
Right hand: +16 bonus to hit, 1d10+14 damage
<Mmmmm.>


Damage caused with your missile weapons:
----------------------------------------
Ammunition: 4, base range: 2, +4 bonus to hit, 1d8+2 damage




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Skills
----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Alchemy .................. 52 (good) [+2d4]
Appraising ............... 11 (mediocre) [+3d4]
Athletics ................ 37 (fair) [+2d4]
Bridge building .......... 14 (mediocre) [+3d5] (mr)
Climbing ................. 22 (mediocre) [+3d3]
Concentration ............ 90 (great) [+1d5]
Find weakness ............ 16 (mediocre) [+3d5]
First aid ................ 24 (mediocre) [+3d3]
Food preservation ........ 49 (fair) [+1d3]
Gemology ................. 10 (poor) [+2d4]
Haggling ................. 18 (mediocre) [+2d4]
Herbalism ................ 26 (mediocre) [+2d4]
Listening ................ 30 (mediocre) [+2d4]
Literacy ................. 83 (great) [+1d5]
Mining ................... 18 (mediocre) [+3d4]
Necromancy ............... 84 (great) [+3d3]
Stealth .................. 47 (fair) [+3d5]


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Spells
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Fireball : 21, 35pp (Effectivity: +0)
Frost Bolt: 26, 20pp (Effectivity: +2)
<Rarely used. Look at that PP cost for my troll. Ouch.>
Light : 56, 4pp (Effectivity: +0)
Magic Lock: 20, 14pp (Effectivity: +0)





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Her achievements during her adventures:
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Korienne, the trollish necromancer, was electrocuted by a lightning lizard.
<She never saw it coming, their electricity has about 20 tiles reach :(>
She scored 10007025 points and advanced to level 6.
She survived for 0 years, 2 days, 5 hours, 49 minutes and 11 seconds (3593
turns).
3 companions were killed during her adventures.
<Ironically, at the same time she was.>
Korienne visited 2 places.
<Wildy encounter and ID>
Her strength score was modified by +1 during her career.
Her learning score was modified by +2 during her career.
Her willpower score was modified by +1 during her career.
Her dexterity score was modified by +1 during her career.
Her toughness score was modified by +1 during her career.
Her charisma score was modified by +1 during her career.
Her appearance score was modified by +1 during her career.
Her mana score was modified by +1 during her career.
Her perception score was modified by +2 during her career.
<Blessed starting PoGA>
She ended her adventuring life on level 9 of some ancient caves.
<Well, it's something to beat in the future.>
197 monsters perished under her attacks.
<Slaves were kinda useless.>
She possessed the following intrinsic:
She was stun resistant (gained through an item).
She had the following talents: Alert, Miser, Potent Aura, Treasure Hunter.
She had a final speed score of 110 (final base speed: 110).
She was a messiah of Vagrak.
She did not ask for divine help.
She was chaotically aligned.
She was slightly tainted by Chaos.

The following monsters were vanquished:
1 bandit
1 berserker
1 black wizard
1 blink dog
1 bugbear
2 carrion crawlers
2 cavemen
1 chaos sister
2 corpse fiends
14 dire wolves
1 displacer beast
2 dopplegangers
1 ettin
2 fire beetles
1 gelatinous cube
1 ghost bat
2 ghuls
2 giant bats
3 gnolls
4 goblins
1 goblin chieftain
4 goblin rockthrowers
2 goblin slavemasters
2 hobgoblins
1 huge bat
1 hyena
6 jackals
1 jackalwere
30 kobolds
<Got a good few zombies/ghuls from this one>
1 kobold chieftain
5 kobold shamans
6 large bats
2 large jackals
9 large kobolds
1 large snake
1 lizard man
1 master swordsman
4 orcs
6 orc scorchers
2 outlaws
1 outlaw leader
1 rabid dog
1 raider
5 rats
5 skeletons
1 stone snake
2 swordsmen
1 werewolf
1 white baby dragon
2 white worms
45 wolves
<Cry.>
1 zombie
 
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Adam Alexander wrote:
> "Adam Alexander" <yuffie@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:bl_%d.107759$ug2.32449@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>
>>Cyclopentane is an alkane (hydrocarbon) that is formed in a ring.
>>
>>It has the chemical formula C5H10
>>
>>It is fairly simple challege, "map out the infinite dungeon". As you know,
>>this is impossible since the infinite dungeon's levels are all random,
>>even previously visited ones, which is why it's a cyclo-alkene, because
>>it's never ending.
>>
>>Rules:
>>From the start, go straight to the ID. From here, you must explore all
>>explorable parts of the level. If you do not discover any hidden doors,
>>it's up to you if you want to try and find them (although blocked
>>coridoors are obvious, they're optional to search around).
>>
>>Once you've fully mapped that level, you find the stairs and walk down.
>>Your challenge is to dive as deep as possible before your character is
>>mercilessly slaughtered.
>>
>>My first attempt of this is with a Grey Elf Candle wizard. I'll keep
>>everyone up-to-date on how it goes, it should be fairly simple, but I
>>suspect early low PP may be an issue. Lack of food preservation can also
>>hurt on the hunger aspect.
>>
>>As an inexperienced player, wish me luck! :)
>
>
> First few characters died until I fated a trollish necromancer. God, are
> these things tough. Refuses to die, no matter what, got my furthest yet
> thanks to my slaves and the incredible toughness, and the strength, as well
> as the starting weapon.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Screenshot
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
> ###########
> #########
> #.........#
> #.......#
> #.......O(###
> #############.......#
> #........./.#
> #.....#...../.......#
> ###+#######.#############################.....#.#####.......#
> #.# #g@(........................../...../.#
> #.......#
> ####### #.# #######################################
> #####/###
> #.....# #.# #...........# #.#
> #.....#########.###################...........############# #.#
> #[........................................................# #.#
> #.....#########.###################...........###########.#
> #######/###
> #.....# #.# #...........# #.#
> #.........#
> ####### #######.######### ####### #...........#
> #.#####.........#
> #...............# #.....# #...........#
> #...../.........#
> #..>..#########.###...<.# #############
> #######.........#
> #.....# #.../.....#
> #.........#
> ####### ###########
> ###########
>
>
> Korienne St:27 Le: 5 Wi:13 Dx:13 To:27 Ch: 6 Ap: 3 Ma:10 Pe:12
> C-
> DV/PV: 10/7 H: -6(74) P: 42(42) Exp: 6/10296 I9 Sp:
> 110
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Background Information
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Name: Korienne Race: female Troll Class: Necromancer
> Eye color: black Hair color: black Complexion: tanned
> Height: 8'2" Weight: 416 pounds
> Age: 12 (young)
> Star sign: Raven Birthday: 30/Raven (day 30 of the year)
>
> YOUR HISTORY:
> Your parents belong to the nobility. They are rich, respected,
> wealthy and own more than they can count.
> As a child you had to survive pretty harsh times since your parents
> seemed to have run out of luck. Their wealth was ever-declining and times
> were very hard.
> During your youth you had a lot of fun playing with other kids of
> your age. You always were a natural leader and the center of interest.
> Your young adulthood was characterized by hard and long work. You
> had decided to study under a renowned master. To your great disappointment
> you had to find out, that he was a hard, unjust and tyrannic man,
> embittered by his old age. Your apprentice years were quite terrible.
> You decided to become a Necromancer.
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Inventory
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Total weight: 1835 stones Carrying capacity: 3975 stones
>
> Head : -
> Neck : -
> Body : uncursed ring mail (-1, -1) [+0, +3] [300s]
> Girdle : -
> Cloak : -
> Right Hand : uncursed heavy skull club (+1, 1d10+3) [-1, +0] [120s]
> Left Hand : -
> Right Ring : uncursed ring of stun resistance [1s]
> Left Ring : -
> Bracers : -
> Gauntlets : -
> Boots : uncursed light boots [+0, +0] [20s]
> Missile weapon: -
> Missiles : bundle of 4 uncursed drakish scurgari (+2, 1d8+2) [40s]
> Tool : -
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Stuff
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Total weight: 1354 stones Carrying capacity: 3975 stones
>
> Armor ('[')
> <Snip two robes>
> Boots ('[')
> <Snip some boots and sandals>
> Two-handed weapons ('(')
> uncursed skull staff (+0, 1d10+1) <Starting weapon> [40s]
> Missiles ('/')
> bundle of 19 uncursed arrows (+3, 1d6+1) <Lost my bow early game> [38s]
> Tools (']')
> uncursed triangular key [1s]
> blessed fireproof blanket [10s]
> Rings ('=')
> uncursed ring of mental stability [+0, +1] {Le+1} [1s]
> Wands ('\')
> uncursed wand of stunning (1 charge) [3s]
> Potions ('!')
> uncursed potion of water [4s]
> blessed potion of cure poison [2s]
> Scrolls ('?')
> uncursed scroll of power [2s]
> blessed scroll of balance [2s]
> Books ('"')
> uncursed spellbook of Fireball [100s]
> uncursed spellbook of Frost Bolt [100s]
> uncursed spellbook of Knock [100s]
> cursed spellbook of Light [100s]
> uncursed spellbook of Magic Lock [100s]
> uncursed spellbook of Magic Lock [100s]
> Food ('%')
> heap of 2 uncursed large rations [400s]
> uncursed iron ration [100s]
> heap of 4 uncursed bones [16s]
> Valuables ('$')
> 1986 gold pieces [19s]
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Weapon Skills
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Melee weapon Lvl Hit Dam DV Level Required marks
> --------------------- --- --- --- -- ------------- --------------
> Unarmed fighting 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 13
> <Disarmed mid fight, didn't notice. Ruddy swordsmen.>
> Daggers & knives 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 30
> Clubs & hammers 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 30
> Maces & flails 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 30
> Swords 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 30
> Axes 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 30
> Whips 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 30
> Pole arms 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 30
> Twohanded weapons 4 +4 +4 +1 skilled 145
> <My starting skull club. Awesome weapon.>
> Staves 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 30
>
> Missile weapon Lvl Hit Dam Ra Level Required marks
> --------------------- --- --- --- -- ------------- --------------
> Slings 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 14
> Bows 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 12
> <What little marks I got before my bow exploded in a fire :(>
> Crossbows 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 14
> Thrown axes & hammers 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 14
> Thrown daggers 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 14
> Thrown rocks & clubs 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 14
> Thrown spears 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 14
> Boomerangs & scurgari 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 13
> <Found little use for these, I got them and then 1 turn later got my
> needed slave>
>
> Shields Lvl DV Level Required marks
> --------------------- --- --- ------------- --------------
> Shields 0 +0 unskilled 30
>
>
> Damage caused with your melee weapons:
> --------------------------------------
> Right hand: +16 bonus to hit, 1d10+14 damage
> <Mmmmm.>
>
>
> Damage caused with your missile weapons:
> ----------------------------------------
> Ammunition: 4, base range: 2, +4 bonus to hit, 1d8+2 damage
>
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Skills
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Alchemy .................. 52 (good) [+2d4]
> Appraising ............... 11 (mediocre) [+3d4]
> Athletics ................ 37 (fair) [+2d4]
> Bridge building .......... 14 (mediocre) [+3d5] (mr)
> Climbing ................. 22 (mediocre) [+3d3]
> Concentration ............ 90 (great) [+1d5]
> Find weakness ............ 16 (mediocre) [+3d5]
> First aid ................ 24 (mediocre) [+3d3]
> Food preservation ........ 49 (fair) [+1d3]
> Gemology ................. 10 (poor) [+2d4]
> Haggling ................. 18 (mediocre) [+2d4]
> Herbalism ................ 26 (mediocre) [+2d4]
> Listening ................ 30 (mediocre) [+2d4]
> Literacy ................. 83 (great) [+1d5]
> Mining ................... 18 (mediocre) [+3d4]
> Necromancy ............... 84 (great) [+3d3]
> Stealth .................. 47 (fair) [+3d5]
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Spells
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Fireball : 21, 35pp (Effectivity: +0)
> Frost Bolt: 26, 20pp (Effectivity: +2)
> <Rarely used. Look at that PP cost for my troll. Ouch.>
> Light : 56, 4pp (Effectivity: +0)
> Magic Lock: 20, 14pp (Effectivity: +0)
>
>
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Her achievements during her adventures:
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Korienne, the trollish necromancer, was electrocuted by a lightning lizard.
> <She never saw it coming, their electricity has about 20 tiles reach :(>
> She scored 10007025 points and advanced to level 6.

Wait a minute, hold the phone. Is it just me or is that a huge score for
a PC at that level just wandering in the ID? Checking against my high
score list, it's higher than all but two of mine (note that I have four
victories and that #100 is a level 10 high elven paladin with but 21266
points). The .flg and table scores do tend to differ, but this one is
just crazy. Is this in your high score table, Adam?

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I failed miserably to keep a straight face when I read that
on Tue, 22 Mar 2005 20:50:18 GMT, Adam Alexander wrote:
> First few characters died until I fated a trollish necromancer. God, are
> these things tough. Refuses to die, no matter what

(snip)

> H: -6(74)

Looks dead to me, all right.

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It can do an infinite loop in about 5 seconds."
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"Josh Singh" <jGoOsh.AsWiAnYgh@gmail.comikaze> wrote in message
news:DoWdnaBGBr6OL93fRVn-1Q@rogers.com...
> Adam Alexander wrote:
>> "Adam Alexander" <yuffie@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:bl_%d.107759$ug2.32449@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>>
>>>Cyclopentane is an alkane (hydrocarbon) that is formed in a ring.
>>>
>>>It has the chemical formula C5H10
>>>
>>>It is fairly simple challege, "map out the infinite dungeon". As you
>>>know, this is impossible since the infinite dungeon's levels are all
>>>random, even previously visited ones, which is why it's a cyclo-alkene,
>>>because it's never ending.
>>>
>>>Rules:
>>>From the start, go straight to the ID. From here, you must explore all
>>>explorable parts of the level. If you do not discover any hidden doors,
>>>it's up to you if you want to try and find them (although blocked
>>>coridoors are obvious, they're optional to search around).
>>>
>>>Once you've fully mapped that level, you find the stairs and walk down.
>>>Your challenge is to dive as deep as possible before your character is
>>>mercilessly slaughtered.
>>>
>>>My first attempt of this is with a Grey Elf Candle wizard. I'll keep
>>>everyone up-to-date on how it goes, it should be fairly simple, but I
>>>suspect early low PP may be an issue. Lack of food preservation can also
>>>hurt on the hunger aspect.
>>>
>>>As an inexperienced player, wish me luck! :)
>>
>>
>> First few characters died until I fated a trollish necromancer. God, are
>> these things tough. Refuses to die, no matter what, got my furthest yet
>> thanks to my slaves and the incredible toughness, and the strength, as
>> well as the starting weapon.
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Screenshot
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>>
>> ########### #########
>> #.........# #.......#
>> #.......O(### #############.......#
>> #........./.# #.....#...../.......#
>>
>> ###+#######.#############################.....#.#####.......#
>> #.# #g@(........................../...../.#
>> #.......#
>> ####### #.# #######################################
>> #####/###
>> #.....# #.# #...........#
>> #.#
>> #.....#########.###################...........#############
>> #.#
>> #[........................................................#
>> #.#
>> #.....#########.###################...........###########.#
>> #######/###
>> #.....# #.# #...........# #.#
>> #.........#
>> ####### #######.######### ####### #...........# #.#####.........#
>> #...............# #.....# #...........# #...../.........#
>> #..>..#########.###...<.# ############# #######.........#
>> #.....# #.../.....# #.........#
>> ####### ########### ###########
>>
>>
>> Korienne St:27 Le: 5 Wi:13 Dx:13 To:27 Ch: 6 Ap: 3 Ma:10
>> Pe:12 C-
>> DV/PV: 10/7 H: -6(74) P: 42(42) Exp: 6/10296 I9 Sp:
>> 110
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Background Information
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Name: Korienne Race: female Troll Class: Necromancer
>> Eye color: black Hair color: black Complexion: tanned
>> Height: 8'2" Weight: 416 pounds
>> Age: 12 (young)
>> Star sign: Raven Birthday: 30/Raven (day 30 of the year)
>>
>> YOUR HISTORY:
>> Your parents belong to the nobility. They are rich, respected,
>> wealthy and own more than they can count.
>> As a child you had to survive pretty harsh times since your
>> parents
>> seemed to have run out of luck. Their wealth was ever-declining and
>> times
>> were very hard.
>> During your youth you had a lot of fun playing with other kids of
>> your age. You always were a natural leader and the center of interest.
>> Your young adulthood was characterized by hard and long work. You
>> had decided to study under a renowned master. To your great
>> disappointment
>> you had to find out, that he was a hard, unjust and tyrannic man,
>> embittered by his old age. Your apprentice years were quite terrible.
>> You decided to become a Necromancer.
>>
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Inventory
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Total weight: 1835 stones Carrying capacity: 3975 stones
>>
>> Head : -
>> Neck : -
>> Body : uncursed ring mail (-1, -1) [+0, +3]
>> [300s]
>> Girdle : -
>> Cloak : -
>> Right Hand : uncursed heavy skull club (+1, 1d10+3) [-1, +0]
>> [120s]
>> Left Hand : -
>> Right Ring : uncursed ring of stun resistance
>> [1s]
>> Left Ring : -
>> Bracers : -
>> Gauntlets : -
>> Boots : uncursed light boots [+0, +0]
>> [20s]
>> Missile weapon: -
>> Missiles : bundle of 4 uncursed drakish scurgari (+2, 1d8+2)
>> [40s]
>> Tool : -
>>
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Stuff
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Total weight: 1354 stones Carrying capacity: 3975 stones
>>
>> Armor ('[')
>> <Snip two robes>
>> Boots ('[')
>> <Snip some boots and sandals>
>> Two-handed weapons ('(')
>> uncursed skull staff (+0, 1d10+1) <Starting weapon>
>> [40s]
>> Missiles ('/')
>> bundle of 19 uncursed arrows (+3, 1d6+1) <Lost my bow early game>
>> [38s]
>> Tools (']')
>> uncursed triangular key
>> [1s]
>> blessed fireproof blanket
>> [10s]
>> Rings ('=')
>> uncursed ring of mental stability [+0, +1] {Le+1}
>> [1s]
>> Wands ('\')
>> uncursed wand of stunning (1 charge)
>> [3s]
>> Potions ('!')
>> uncursed potion of water
>> [4s]
>> blessed potion of cure poison
>> [2s]
>> Scrolls ('?')
>> uncursed scroll of power
>> [2s]
>> blessed scroll of balance
>> [2s]
>> Books ('"')
>> uncursed spellbook of Fireball
>> [100s]
>> uncursed spellbook of Frost Bolt
>> [100s]
>> uncursed spellbook of Knock
>> [100s]
>> cursed spellbook of Light
>> [100s]
>> uncursed spellbook of Magic Lock
>> [100s]
>> uncursed spellbook of Magic Lock
>> [100s]
>> Food ('%')
>> heap of 2 uncursed large rations
>> [400s]
>> uncursed iron ration
>> [100s]
>> heap of 4 uncursed bones
>> [16s]
>> Valuables ('$')
>> 1986 gold pieces
>> [19s]
>>
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Weapon Skills
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Melee weapon Lvl Hit Dam DV Level Required
>> marks
>> --------------------- --- --- --- -- ------------- --------------
>> Unarmed fighting 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 13
>> <Disarmed mid fight, didn't notice. Ruddy swordsmen.>
>> Daggers & knives 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 30
>> Clubs & hammers 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 30
>> Maces & flails 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 30
>> Swords 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 30
>> Axes 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 30
>> Whips 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 30
>> Pole arms 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 30
>> Twohanded weapons 4 +4 +4 +1 skilled 145
>> <My starting skull club. Awesome weapon.>
>> Staves 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 30
>>
>> Missile weapon Lvl Hit Dam Ra Level Required
>> marks
>> --------------------- --- --- --- -- ------------- --------------
>> Slings 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 14
>> Bows 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 12
>> <What little marks I got before my bow exploded in a fire :(>
>> Crossbows 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 14
>> Thrown axes & hammers 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 14
>> Thrown daggers 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 14
>> Thrown rocks & clubs 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 14
>> Thrown spears 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 14
>> Boomerangs & scurgari 0 +0 +0 +0 unskilled 13
>> <Found little use for these, I got them and then 1 turn later got my
>> needed slave>
>>
>> Shields Lvl DV Level Required
>> marks
>> --------------------- --- --- ------------- --------------
>> Shields 0 +0 unskilled 30
>>
>>
>> Damage caused with your melee weapons:
>> --------------------------------------
>> Right hand: +16 bonus to hit, 1d10+14 damage
>> <Mmmmm.>
>>
>>
>> Damage caused with your missile weapons:
>> ----------------------------------------
>> Ammunition: 4, base range: 2, +4 bonus to hit, 1d8+2 damage
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Skills
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Alchemy .................. 52 (good) [+2d4]
>> Appraising ............... 11 (mediocre) [+3d4]
>> Athletics ................ 37 (fair) [+2d4]
>> Bridge building .......... 14 (mediocre) [+3d5] (mr)
>> Climbing ................. 22 (mediocre) [+3d3]
>> Concentration ............ 90 (great) [+1d5]
>> Find weakness ............ 16 (mediocre) [+3d5]
>> First aid ................ 24 (mediocre) [+3d3]
>> Food preservation ........ 49 (fair) [+1d3]
>> Gemology ................. 10 (poor) [+2d4]
>> Haggling ................. 18 (mediocre) [+2d4]
>> Herbalism ................ 26 (mediocre) [+2d4]
>> Listening ................ 30 (mediocre) [+2d4]
>> Literacy ................. 83 (great) [+1d5]
>> Mining ................... 18 (mediocre) [+3d4]
>> Necromancy ............... 84 (great) [+3d3]
>> Stealth .................. 47 (fair) [+3d5]
>>
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Spells
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Fireball : 21, 35pp (Effectivity: +0)
>> Frost Bolt: 26, 20pp (Effectivity: +2)
>> <Rarely used. Look at that PP cost for my troll. Ouch.>
>> Light : 56, 4pp (Effectivity: +0)
>> Magic Lock: 20, 14pp (Effectivity: +0)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Her achievements during her adventures:
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Korienne, the trollish necromancer, was electrocuted by a lightning
>> lizard.
>> <She never saw it coming, their electricity has about 20 tiles reach :(>
>> She scored 10007025 points and advanced to level 6.
>
> Wait a minute, hold the phone. Is it just me or is that a huge score for a
> PC at that level just wandering in the ID? Checking against my high score
> list, it's higher than all but two of mine (note that I have four
> victories and that #100 is a level 10 high elven paladin with but 21266
> points). The .flg and table scores do tend to differ, but this one is just
> crazy. Is this in your high score table, Adam?
>

Yes, it's 16380 in my high score table. A glitch creating the .flg? I am
using ADOM-Sage, could that have caused it?
 
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"Léon Planken" <lplanken@opposite-of-coldmail.com> wrote in message
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>I failed miserably to keep a straight face when I read that
> on Tue, 22 Mar 2005 20:50:18 GMT, Adam Alexander wrote:
>> First few characters died until I fated a trollish necromancer. God, are
>> these things tough. Refuses to die, no matter what
>
> (snip)
>
>> H: -6(74)
>
> Looks dead to me, all right.
>

Not very magic resistant, mind you ;) They tend to be lightning conductors
*grins*
 
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"Andy Williams" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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> Adam Alexander wrote:
>
> Warning: OT chemistry
>
>> Cyclopentane is an alkane (hydrocarbon) that is formed in a ring.
>
>> It has the chemical formula C5H10
>
> Yes and yes.
>
>> It is fairly simple challege, "map out the infinite dungeon". As you
>> know,
>> this is impossible since the infinite dungeon's levels are all random,
>> even
>> previously visited ones, which is why it's a cyclo-alkene, because it's
>> never ending.
>
> You had it correct above: cycloalkane, not cycloalkene. Alkenes
> contain a C=C double bond.
>
> But why did you choose cyclopentane? Cyclohexane is the most stable
> and ubiquitous cycloalkane, by far. More appropriate to a challenge
> game involving the ID, methinks.

Since when is the ID stable, you'll never see the same level twice unless
it's by some unGodly stroke of luck. I'd say the shimmering enterance to a
cave that leads to the depths of the Earth was pretty unstable.

Maybe that's a matter of interpretation.
 
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"frobnoid" <frobnoid@orders2.tmok.com> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 19:28:07 +0000, Adam Alexander wrote:
>
>> Cyclopentane is an alkane (hydrocarbon) that is formed in a ring.
>
> "Before you die, you see the ring."
>
> You may want to add the restriction that, upon mapping the whole level,
> you must go directly to the down staircase.

Ahhh, one point I forgot to overlook. I find this style suits my playing
style.

There could also be an optional challenge for the master cartographer,
pacifist mode. You're not allowed to directly kill any monsters (Make a note
of trap suicides) on your dive. Obviously, this is FAR too out of my league,
but I'm sure someone else could have a damn good time ducking and diving and
dodging the locals of the ID. Obvious candidates are bards with heir, and
necromancers with lots of slaves.
 
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I failed miserably to keep a straight face when I read that
on Wed, 23 Mar 2005 11:23:14 GMT, Adam Alexander wrote:
>
> "Josh Singh" <jGoOsh.AsWiAnYgh@gmail.comikaze> wrote in message
> news:DoWdnaBGBr6OL93fRVn-1Q@rogers.com...
>> Adam Alexander wrote:
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> Her achievements during her adventures:
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> Korienne, the trollish necromancer, was electrocuted by a lightning
>>> lizard.
>>> <She never saw it coming, their electricity has about 20 tiles reach :(>
>>> She scored 10007025 points and advanced to level 6.
>>
>> Wait a minute, hold the phone. Is it just me or is that a huge score for a
>> PC at that level just wandering in the ID?

(snip)

> Yes, it's 16380 in my high score table. A glitch creating the .flg? I am
> using ADOM-Sage, could that have caused it?

Josh and Adam, would you snip what you're not referring to in your
follow-up? Since you're only commenting on the score, you can leave the
rest of the .flg out.

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Léon Planken wrote:
> I failed miserably to keep a straight face when I read that
> on Wed, 23 Mar 2005 11:23:14 GMT, Adam Alexander wrote:
>
>>"Josh Singh" <jGoOsh.AsWiAnYgh@gmail.comikaze> wrote in message
>>news:DoWdnaBGBr6OL93fRVn-1Q@rogers.com...
>>
>>>Adam Alexander wrote:
>>>
>>>>----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> Her achievements during her adventures:
>>>>----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>>Korienne, the trollish necromancer, was electrocuted by a lightning
>>>>lizard.
>>>><She never saw it coming, their electricity has about 20 tiles reach :(>
>>>>She scored 10007025 points and advanced to level 6.
>>>
>>>Wait a minute, hold the phone. Is it just me or is that a huge score for a
>>>PC at that level just wandering in the ID?
>
>
> (snip)
>
>
>>Yes, it's 16380 in my high score table. A glitch creating the .flg? I am
>>using ADOM-Sage, could that have caused it?

I don't use ADOM-Sage, so I don't know.

> Josh and Adam, would you snip what you're not referring to in your
> follow-up? Since you're only commenting on the score, you can leave the
> rest of the .flg out.

Yep. Sorry. I didn't realize I quoted the whole thing until I read
Adam's reply just now. I am deeply ashamed.

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Adam Alexander wrote:

> Andy Williams wrote:

> > But why did you choose cyclopentane? Cyclohexane is the most stable
> > and ubiquitous cycloalkane, by far. More appropriate to a challenge
> > game involving the ID, methinks.

> Since when is the ID stable, you'll never see the same level twice unless
> it's by some unGodly stroke of luck. I'd say the shimmering enterance to a
> cave that leads to the depths of the Earth was pretty unstable.

In that case call it cyclopropane man. Cyclopropanes fall apart if
you look at them wrong.
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"Andy Williams" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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> Adam Alexander wrote:
>
>> Andy Williams wrote:
>
>> > But why did you choose cyclopentane? Cyclohexane is the most stable
>> > and ubiquitous cycloalkane, by far. More appropriate to a challenge
>> > game involving the ID, methinks.
>
>> Since when is the ID stable, you'll never see the same level twice unless
>> it's by some unGodly stroke of luck. I'd say the shimmering enterance to
>> a
>> cave that leads to the depths of the Earth was pretty unstable.
>
> In that case call it cyclopropane man. Cyclopropanes fall apart if
> you look at them wrong.

But can you get drunk on it, because you have to admit, you gotta be drunk
to attempt this challenge ;)
 
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"Adam Alexander" <yuffie@blueyonder.co.uk>'s wild thoughts
were released on Tue, 22 Mar 2005 19:28:07 GMT bearing the
following fruit:

>Cyclopentane is an alkane (hydrocarbon) that is formed in a ring.
>
>It has the chemical formula C5H10
>
>It is fairly simple challege, "map out the infinite dungeon". As you know,
>this is impossible since the infinite dungeon's levels are all random, even
>previously visited ones, which is why it's a cyclo-alkene, because it's
>never ending.
>
>Rules:
>From the start, go straight to the ID. From here, you must explore all
>explorable parts of the level. If you do not discover any hidden doors, it's
>up to you if you want to try and find them (although blocked coridoors are
>obvious, they're optional to search around).
>
>Once you've fully mapped that level, you find the stairs and walk down. Your
>challenge is to dive as deep as possible before your character is
>mercilessly slaughtered.
>
>My first attempt of this is with a Grey Elf Candle wizard. I'll keep
>everyone up-to-date on how it goes, it should be fairly simple, but I
>suspect early low PP may be an issue. Lack of food preservation can also
>hurt on the hunger aspect.
>
>As an inexperienced player, wish me luck! :)
>

These are the exact same rules I play only I call it the
'spelunker challenge'. In my last game a load of claw bugs
caught me by suprise..... And that was about level 3 of the
ID....



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