"semi" new build PC

brannsiu

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Tonight I got my new "semi" new build PC because I've replaced the defected hardware with the new hardware. This build was done in a computer shop, not by myself. I still have hard time building my own
computer so I'd rather spending a little bit more for the professional service.


Reasons I took to test and replace: Strong burning smell from the PC from time to time, not always though, anything else working correctly. Windows working correctly.

Test result (According to the computer shop and salesman): PSU likely failed because he found out defected capacitor inside, Motherboard failed to communicate well with other hardware, 1T Hard drive aging and going to fail soon. But he couldn't find out where the smell was exactly coming from.

Items advised to be replaced: Antec PSU Neo Eco 400w, Asus Board P8B75M. 1T Seagate Hard drive.
Items advised to purchase: Antec PSU Neo Eco II 550w. Asus Board H61M-K, Transcend S220 128GB (my first SSD)

His comment about the failure: Some blowing capacitor seen inside the PSU, likely because I've connected to four hard drives (no display card) and turning ON 24 hours a day that causes a great workload to the PSU. (But isn't 400w enough for a system without a display card but four hard drives???)

Asus Board: He doesn't know why it failed, but the fact is it's failed to communicate with some hardware and not advised to continue to use.

1T Seagate HDD: aging , will fail soon. I agree and I don't really care because I will want to try a SSD no matter what.

Yes, now the build is finished, I've followed his advice because I don't want to waste any more time and have any more headache.


However, I now find out that he didn't mention to me that the H61 board is even an older board than P8B75M, in which the H61 board does not have USB 3.0 and SATA III. He explained that because I wanted to keep the intel i5 2nd gen CPU and MATX chassis , this is the probably the last board available in the market. He also commented that my intel i5 2400 CPU is not fully utilized with this board in other words this board does not maximize the powerfulness of the CPU. (Would anyone help check how much speed will be suffered??


He also noted that there were a lot of dust cleaned out from my chassis which is something I cannot agree more. Over the last three years of time I almost never turned off my PC which is running for 24 hours a day and I never cleaned out any dust.


My question and concern now is

1. Since most of my external hard drives are USB 3.0 and my new SSD is also SATA III, but my new board does not support USB 3.0 and SATA III. Only USB 2.0 and SATA II.

Would I suffer obvious real world difference in terms of speed? I know theoretically USB 3.0 is 10 times faster than USB 2.0 and SATA III doubles the speed of SATA II, but theory is not important to me.

2. What I can do in the future to keep the best condition of my PC? The computer shop recommended me not to use any compressed air but using traditional brushes to clean out dust which is well enough.

3. I asked if I need to install one more chassis fan for better air flow and cooling down, (now I only have one), the salesman said I shouldn't because more fans will probably attract more dust.

Does he make sense?????? Should I install one more chassis fans ????

4. He didn't use any adaptor or tray and he didn't install any screw to my new SSD. Instead he used a string-like thing to mount it tightly to the 3.5 tray. He said they never use screw for their SSD because mounting by string is much better and far enough. He explained screw might sometimes fail to tighten totally.

Is it real??? Really a new concept to me. I am too green to argue with him in terms of computer area.

he was very confident to me that it's OK to mount with that plastic string.


5. Can anyone help guess why did my motherboard “fail to communicate correctly with other hardware?"
The salesman said he tested the motherboard totally and he said something like "bridge" ... has failed. I don't understand his technical terms....

As I pretty believed that my PSU had failed and I want to try a SSD. That's why I don't want to risk anything unnecessary, especially the new board is cheap. 50 bucks.



Do you guys have any advice on my experience? What I can do and learn from the experience with this computer ?? How I can care my PC to keep the best condition of it? Why an Antec PSU could fail so quickly, I supposed Antec has a very good fame. It failed in less than 3 years.

 
That "professional" is feeding you a lot of BS.
PSU would have to be very lousy make and badly under powered to die because of few HDDs, they draw much less power than most other parts in the system.
More fans may collect more dust but also cool components better. Computers are very good at collecting dust, fans or not.
Compressed air from cans is quite safe for light cleaning but you may have to use a soft brush occasionally too.
SSDs don't have any moving parts so you can mount them any way you want, or even let it stay loose but it's better to screw them to a tray so they stay cooler like that.
The "Bridge" he was referring to could be North or South Bridge and they are tasked with communication with all input and output devices, processor, memory etc. Bad one of those would cripple or make MB and everything on it unusable.
I would stay away from Antec PSUs if possible.
 



My whole system and windows worked totally except having occasional strong smell coming out from the computer from unknown sources. The computer shop claimed to have tested every hardware seriously and reported to me that motherboard has bridge problems that should be replaced but not necessary but highly advised. I took his advice.

So I was likely to be cheated right because a motherboard should either fail totally or working perfectly? My system was working perfectly so the motherboard shouldn't have any bridge problems??

 
If it was working perfectly it wouldn't have any problems, bridges or otherwise. Either of those major components like North or South bridge would most likely stop everything dead. Among other things, NB handles CPU to memory relation and SB handles mostly input - output.
Some components other than CPU and GPU also heat up more than some others, VRM module (Left side from CPU) handles all the power regulation thru computer and can get hot as well as NB and could have possibly emit some smell. If they overheated they would most likely shut computer down before anything would burn up. That's how they were designed.
 



the fact is, when the smell came, the smell was "usually" VERY STRONG, not "always" though , and only after some minutes or hours it went away.

And after few weeks or months it came back again.

I was pretty sure that there was no dead rat or any other animal inside my chassis. I was also confident that the smell came from the desktop PC but not anything else.


After all, I've now had my hardware replaced. I can only learn from experience