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So are semprons any good? I'm looking at buying a board that comes with an AMD Sempron 2700.. I was wondering they're any good considering I havent really heard much about them. Any help would be appariected.

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Its like a cut down version of the AXP. Better than a Celeron though.

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Its like a cut down version of the AXP. Better than a Celeron though.
I have been wondering since I first started reading these reviews, where the Sempron would be a good choice? Obivsuly it is based on a newer socket type, and would be a little more upgradeable over socket A. But what would make the Sempron a better choice than an Athlon XP chip? (Besides the newer socket?)

Obivsuly the XPs are still slowly dropping in price, other than upgradeability, whats the real point of the Sempron? (Performance-wise to the average users, not adavantages to AMD)

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Well I'm only asking because theres a deal on ebay that comes with a motheboard an a sempron 2700+.. Or I could wait and hope it comes in on a different site and get the same board excpet its an Athlon 2700+

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That's a little funny. According to <A HREF="http://www.amd.com/us-en/Corporate/VirtualPressRoom/0,,51_104_609,00.html" target="_new">http://www.amd.com/us-en/Corporate/VirtualPressRoom/0,,51_104_609,00.html</A> there is no processor like that listed. Wanna taka guess?
 

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I bet I just remembered it wrong.. I'll go check


Yeah I was right. Its 2600+... sorry
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deal on ebay that comes with a motheboard an a sempron 2700+..
Is the motherboard any good? Many of the "deals" I see on pricewacth and other sites, aren't really "deals." Whats the price range of this deal?



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Its an ecs N2U400-A with sempron 2600+ 98.90 or something like that..

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Sounds like a cut-rate nVidia chipset board, which would only make it 100x better than the best VIA chipset board, rather than 200x better.

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I should just say that it sounds like a fairly good board from a budget company who's known for occasionally turning out fairly good boards.

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Not for ECS N2U400-A. I used it before (bought combo with Barton 2500+ for $69) and it was unstable, crashed a lot. Exchanged it for MSI K7N2 Delta, and the problem went away.

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Sempron PR numbers are a bit deceptive, IMO. For example, a Sempron 2600 runs at 1833 Mhz while a Thoroughbred based XP2600+ ran at about 2100 Mhz for 333 FSB model and 2133 Mhz for the 266 FSB model. All of those processors have the same size L2 Cache, 256 KB. A Barton based XP2600+ runs closer in speed to the Sempron 2600 but still faster at 1933 Mhz, but the Barton has a large L2 Cache, 512 KB vs 256 KB, and hence has a fair bit more performance.

As you can see the Sempron models are clocked considerably slower than the Athon XP models.

Supposedly the Sempron PR numbers have been adjusted so as to compare directly with Celeron models but I think the Sempron numbering scheme is just confusing.


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well ive started to kind of understand the model numbers. basically, it seems amd has a set of model numbers for each segment or socket you could say. a sempron 3100+ is not compareable to an ahtlon 64 3100+, they are in different leagues of performance. just like how intel has those numbers to denote the market segment and place in that segment, evne if thier numbers arent suppose to show which part has better performance lol.

i think both intel and amd have pretty confusing numbers. but i think once s939 takes off and sempron does as wlel, youll see abit of clarity. Its obvious amd will phase out s754 athlon 64's eventaully all together. becuase why would anyone buy an ahtlon 64 3000+ on s754 if the s939 part is the same price? there is no reason. by then, sempron will be all s754, socket a will be gone and ahtlon 64 wil be only on s939.
 

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Well, both deals have the same mobo but the second one is the better deal. It clearly states Athlon XP 2700+ not Sempron 2600+ like the first deal. Plus, Fry's is a well established reliable vendor, been around for a long time. Used to be the old Cyberian Outpost.

I don't know anything about the reputation of the ECS mobo, but at least it's an nForce 2 Ultra 400 and an XP 2700+ plust nForce 2 mobo combo under $100 really does sound like a good deal.

You might check the ECS forum at www.amdmb.com to see if anyone has personal experience with that mobo.

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