My setup:
FX 4170 (4.2Gz), 16Gb (2x8Gb DDR3 1300), 2Gb 6670 GPU all on a 760GM-21FX.
Now, I have had the PC in a dusty house for a while and decided to give my CPU fan a little clean, and it desperately needed it as it was completely matted up by an oily fluff. So carefully I take a thin knife and peel back all the gunk off the fan blades. I need to get a better angle so decided to take the fan off, leaving the cpu seated with the heatsink on top of that.
The fan is a stock cooler with plastic clips onto the heatsink and a bar across the heatsink with clips to attach it to the board. I eased the fan up but the whole thing came up, yes the who f*cking thing! CPU, heatsink and fan all in one go. Now, I am not a novice here, I've been building PCs on and off for probably 20 years now so when I say I used a suitable level of force it was applied to get the fan off the heatsink it should in no way been enough to take everything, but it was, much to my surprise.
So, I am left with the CPU still bonded to the heatsink and the fan attached to that. What is even more freaky is that the little metal bar used to "set" the CPU in place remained in the "locked" position.
Taking a few moments in order to calm down, and repeatedly muttering, "f*ck, f*ck, f*ck, f*ck... etc" I thought the only solution is to continue my plan and clean the fan and now the heatsink considering I had a very good angle to get to all the crap on it.
I did this, the lifted the arm, resat the chip, lowered the arm clipped the fan to the heatsink, clipped the fan to the board, thus ensuring a very solid connection.
With trepidation I hit the boot and to my surprise no sparks came out, it just booted as you would expect, although there was no video signal. Ok, a bit weird, maybe I've just attached the cable to the integrated card socket and not the PCIe card. Nope, it was fine.
So, with a machine that wouldn't boot, but was powering up (the fans would go, the hard drive clicked away) I did the only thing I could think of, check the beep sequence. However there was NO beep sequence. I started removing everything from the board, so I was left with just the CPU and PSU, and I get the RAM error beeps (3 long). If I reseat the memory I am back to square one, no video, no bios beeps.
Anyone got any ideas?
Let me just say the machine was running perfectly until now, and it's only about a year old. There is no markings on the MB to show a power overload and no burning smell.
Is it possible to reseat a AM3+ chip (the 4170) the wrong way (ie: rotated 90, 180 or 270 degrees) to where it should be? If I did that wouldn't the whole thing just fall over? I am struggling to figure out what is up with this.
TL;DR? I have a motherboard that will take power and the fans and HD will kick off, but doesn't reach the BIOS beep let alone boot. Removing the memory and PCIe card (leaving the integrated) I get 3 long beeps for a memory issue - rightly too as I had taken the memory out - but if I put it back in I get nothing. No beeps no video and no (obvious) boot.
What boot order do the beeps happen in? I am getting error beeps from no memory, but adding it I get no beeps at all (not even the healthy BIOS beep) and absolutely no video.
To paraphrase Princess Leia, "Help me Toms Hardware, you are my only hope."
Ric.
FX 4170 (4.2Gz), 16Gb (2x8Gb DDR3 1300), 2Gb 6670 GPU all on a 760GM-21FX.
Now, I have had the PC in a dusty house for a while and decided to give my CPU fan a little clean, and it desperately needed it as it was completely matted up by an oily fluff. So carefully I take a thin knife and peel back all the gunk off the fan blades. I need to get a better angle so decided to take the fan off, leaving the cpu seated with the heatsink on top of that.
The fan is a stock cooler with plastic clips onto the heatsink and a bar across the heatsink with clips to attach it to the board. I eased the fan up but the whole thing came up, yes the who f*cking thing! CPU, heatsink and fan all in one go. Now, I am not a novice here, I've been building PCs on and off for probably 20 years now so when I say I used a suitable level of force it was applied to get the fan off the heatsink it should in no way been enough to take everything, but it was, much to my surprise.
So, I am left with the CPU still bonded to the heatsink and the fan attached to that. What is even more freaky is that the little metal bar used to "set" the CPU in place remained in the "locked" position.
Taking a few moments in order to calm down, and repeatedly muttering, "f*ck, f*ck, f*ck, f*ck... etc" I thought the only solution is to continue my plan and clean the fan and now the heatsink considering I had a very good angle to get to all the crap on it.
I did this, the lifted the arm, resat the chip, lowered the arm clipped the fan to the heatsink, clipped the fan to the board, thus ensuring a very solid connection.
With trepidation I hit the boot and to my surprise no sparks came out, it just booted as you would expect, although there was no video signal. Ok, a bit weird, maybe I've just attached the cable to the integrated card socket and not the PCIe card. Nope, it was fine.
So, with a machine that wouldn't boot, but was powering up (the fans would go, the hard drive clicked away) I did the only thing I could think of, check the beep sequence. However there was NO beep sequence. I started removing everything from the board, so I was left with just the CPU and PSU, and I get the RAM error beeps (3 long). If I reseat the memory I am back to square one, no video, no bios beeps.
Anyone got any ideas?
Let me just say the machine was running perfectly until now, and it's only about a year old. There is no markings on the MB to show a power overload and no burning smell.
Is it possible to reseat a AM3+ chip (the 4170) the wrong way (ie: rotated 90, 180 or 270 degrees) to where it should be? If I did that wouldn't the whole thing just fall over? I am struggling to figure out what is up with this.
TL;DR? I have a motherboard that will take power and the fans and HD will kick off, but doesn't reach the BIOS beep let alone boot. Removing the memory and PCIe card (leaving the integrated) I get 3 long beeps for a memory issue - rightly too as I had taken the memory out - but if I put it back in I get nothing. No beeps no video and no (obvious) boot.
What boot order do the beeps happen in? I am getting error beeps from no memory, but adding it I get no beeps at all (not even the healthy BIOS beep) and absolutely no video.
To paraphrase Princess Leia, "Help me Toms Hardware, you are my only hope."
Ric.
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