Service Pack 3 - Still Available?

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First, a thanks to all the people who helped give me info on my problems
installing NT4 to a second hard disk. I eventually rearranged the partitions
to ensure that the FAT16 one being shared with Win95 was the first
physically on the disk, and then it worked fine (well, I tried to install to
a logical partition beyond 4 Gb on HDD 1 this time round so got burned one
more time, but going back to a primary partition on HDD 2 worked).

Now, since I am trying to use this NT installation for program compatibility
testing, I would like to keep it at a fairly old service pack state, so that
I can test programs against "NT4 + SP3" and thus quote that as a minimum
spec for the program. But I can't seem to get hold of SP3 any more - does
anyone know how I might do this? Or should I simply get SP5 and be done with
it? I would like to guarantee compatibility with as much as I can manage, if
possible, but it isn't critical.


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[This followup was posted to microsoft.public.windowsnt.setup and a copy
was sent to the cited author.]

In article <2hreneF591t6U1@uni-berlin.de>, jason@teagster.co.uk says...
> First, a thanks to all the people who helped give me info on my problems
> installing NT4 to a second hard disk. I eventually rearranged the partitions
> to ensure that the FAT16 one being shared with Win95 was the first
> physically on the disk, and then it worked fine (well, I tried to install to
> a logical partition beyond 4 Gb on HDD 1 this time round so got burned one
> more time, but going back to a primary partition on HDD 2 worked).
>
> Now, since I am trying to use this NT installation for program compatibility
> testing, I would like to keep it at a fairly old service pack state, so that
> I can test programs against "NT4 + SP3" and thus quote that as a minimum
> spec for the program. But I can't seem to get hold of SP3 any more - does
> anyone know how I might do this? Or should I simply get SP5 and be done with
> it? I would like to guarantee compatibility with as much as I can manage, if
> possible, but it isn't critical.

Start here:
ftp://ftp.microsoft.com/bussys/winnt/winnt-public/fixes/usa/nt40/

You can directly download through SP3. SP4 and newer require going
through the web site.

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Jason Teagle wrote:

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> Now, since I am trying to use this NT installation for program compatibility
> testing, I would like to keep it at a fairly old service pack state, so that
> I can test programs against "NT4 + SP3" and thus quote that as a minimum
> spec for the program. But I can't seem to get hold of SP3 any more - does
> anyone know how I might do this? Or should I simply get SP5 and be done with
> it? I would like to guarantee compatibility with as much as I can manage, if
> possible, but it isn't critical.
>
>

FWIW, and this is just a matter of opinion, it might be
more preferable to use Windows NT + SP4 as the reference,
taking into consideration several factors, including Y2K
issues (if any), AGP-video, Atapi.sys, etc. Relative to
hardware issues, SP3 is not entirely compatible with many
of today's computer systems.

 

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> Start here:
> ftp://ftp.microsoft.com/bussys/winnt/winnt-public/fixes/usa/nt40/
>
> You can directly download through SP3. SP4 and newer require going
> through the web site.

Thankyou for this. Unfortunately the site constantly times out, I had found
a link to there last night but the problem was the same then.


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Be patient ... it comes and goes for some reason. Also FYI SP6a is the
latest and final service pack for Windows NT

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"Jason Teagle" wrote:

| Thankyou for this. Unfortunately the site constantly times out, I had
found
| a link to there last night but the problem was the same then.
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| jason@teagster.co.uk
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> Be patient ... it comes and goes for some reason. Also FYI SP6a is the
> latest and final service pack for Windows NT

Thankyou for the info, I'll keep trying.


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> FWIW, and this is just a matter of opinion, it might be
> more preferable to use Windows NT + SP4 as the reference,
> taking into consideration several factors, including Y2K
> issues (if any), AGP-video, Atapi.sys, etc. Relative to
> hardware issues, SP3 is not entirely compatible with many
> of today's computer systems.

Interesting... I had SP3 in my head because I'm led to believe it's the
first SP that gave NT the ability to run DirectX... given what you say, I am
now very much leaning towards SP4. Thanks.


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Jason Teagle wrote:
>>FWIW, and this is just a matter of opinion, it might be
>>more preferable to use Windows NT + SP4 as the reference,
>>taking into consideration several factors, including Y2K
>>issues (if any), AGP-video, Atapi.sys, etc. Relative to
>>hardware issues, SP3 is not entirely compatible with many
>>of today's computer systems.
>
>
> Interesting... I had SP3 in my head because I'm led to believe it's the
> first SP that gave NT the ability to run DirectX... given what you say, I am
> now very much leaning towards SP4. Thanks.
>
>

Note, however, that the only version of DirectX supported
on Windows NT is DirectX 3.0a. It needs NT SP6a.

 

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> Note, however, that the only version of DirectX supported
> on Windows NT is DirectX 3.0a. It needs NT SP6a.

Really? Hmmm... I felt sure it was supported at an earlier service pack, I
have had it in my head for a couple of years!


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Jason Teagle wrote:

>>Note, however, that the only version of DirectX supported
>>on Windows NT is DirectX 3.0a. It needs NT SP6a.
>
>
> Really? Hmmm... I felt sure it was supported at an earlier service pack, I
> have had it in my head for a couple of years!
>
>

Maybe DirectX 1.X?

 

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> >>Note, however, that the only version of DirectX supported
> >>on Windows NT is DirectX 3.0a. It needs NT SP6a.
> >
> >
> > Really? Hmmm... I felt sure it was supported at an earlier service pack,
I
> > have had it in my head for a couple of years!
> >
> >
>
> Maybe DirectX 1.X?

I managed to find a copy of SP3, and can confirm that it supports DX 3.0...
not sure if we had crossed wires there and the poster meant that I needed
SP6a to get modern (DX9) support?


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In article <2i3uhlFioo8mU1@uni-berlin.de>, jason@teagster.co.uk says...
> > >>Note, however, that the only version of DirectX supported
> > >>on Windows NT is DirectX 3.0a. It needs NT SP6a.
> > >
> > >
> > > Really? Hmmm... I felt sure it was supported at an earlier service pack,
> I
> > > have had it in my head for a couple of years!
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Maybe DirectX 1.X?
>
> I managed to find a copy of SP3, and can confirm that it supports DX 3.0...
> not sure if we had crossed wires there and the poster meant that I needed
> SP6a to get modern (DX9) support?

SP3 added DX3 support. That was it. Microsoft never supported NT with
newer versions of DirectX. Some people modified install files to force
newer versions of DirectX to install, but who knows how well it really
worked.

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> SP3 added DX3 support. That was it. Microsoft never supported NT with
> newer versions of DirectX. Some people modified install files to force
> newer versions of DirectX to install, but who knows how well it really
> worked.

Knowing what I've seen of MS OSs, I suspect it was flaky at best. They know
how to ensure things don't work {;v)
I can understand this approach, though; NT(4) to my mind has always been
tagged a business OS, so why would you want DirectX? That's for games, and
that's what XP is designed for, the home market.

Of course, you could argue that a CAD or other big graphics application
might make use of DirectX...


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