Question Setting Up an SSD and a SATA Hard Drive

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Hi! I'm getting a new computer at the end of the week. I'm not a gamer, but the price is great for this computer.
AMD RYZEN 5 7600X
MSI PRO PRO A620M-E AM5
500GB HP EX900 m.2 Solid State Drive, NVME PCI-Express 3.0
16 gb dr5 memory
500 gb SATA Drive
Thermaltake 500W ultra quiet ATX Power Supply
Thermalright Peerless Assassin CPU cooler
I'm going to put the OS, Windows 10, on the SSD using a USB stick. I assume I'll have to go into the BIOS to designate that drive for the install. How do I activate and format the SATA drive? I'm planning to use the SATA drive to store most of the files. How do I set that up? I know that most installs of programs are put into the Program Files directory. Do I install the programs on the SATA drive, and if so, do I have to create a directory and point the install to that directory? How do I put directories and files on the hard drive? Is there sone program that will set up somethibn\\ng similar to windows explorer to put the directories and files in? Any and all responses will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
 
I don't really recommend putting apps onto a HDD in that way. If you have concerns about space on the SSD consider selecting a larger one.

HDD would best be used for storage like pics, movies, music, backup files etc.

I would recommend disconnecting the HDD, install Windows to the SSD, get it up and running. Go back in and reconnect the HDD and use Disk Management to initialize it.
 
I assume I'll have to go into the BIOS to designate that drive for the install.
You don't have to do this. The computer will try every storage drive connected to it for something to boot into. If you don't have a HDD or SSD that meets this, it'll check the USB drives.

If you have both drives plugged in while you're installing Windows, you'll have to figure out which one is the SSD. If you don't want to do this, unplug the HDD first, then plug it back in after installing Windows.

How do I activate and format the SATA drive? I'm planning to use the SATA drive to store most of the files. How do I set that up?
After you install Windows, type in "diskmgmt.msc" in the Start Menu search. You can format the drive through that.

I know that most installs of programs are put into the Program Files directory. Do I install the programs on the SATA drive, and if so, do I have to create a directory and point the install to that directory?
If you want to put programs on the hard drive, yes, this is how you do it. Just make sure to select "Custom install" or whatever because most installers will point to Program Files if you let it do the default ezpz install.

How do I put directories and files on the hard drive? Is there sone program that will set up somethibn\\ng similar to windows explorer to put the directories and files in? Any and all responses will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
Once the drive is formatted, you can use File Explorer to interact with it.
 
Have ONLY the SSD connected when you install the OS.

Do NOT split the OS and your applications. Let all the applications install on the SSD> OK, maybe games on the HDD.


 
Thanks for the responses. I'll be using the hard drive for movies, music, pics, downloaded files, etc. How do I use file explorer to interact? How do I put files on the hard drive? How do I put directories on it to put the files into? Thanks.
 
Thanks for the response. I understand that I change the drive letter to the D: designation for the hard drive, but where is it on the hard drive if there's no directory to put it in? If I set the D: drive to receive my downloaded files---I use DL as the directory to put my downloads in, how would I set that directory up on the hard drive to access it? If I download a movie to the D: drive, how do I access it? The files have to show up somewhere. Thanks.
 
Thanks for the responses. I'll be using the hard drive for movies, music, pics, downloaded files, etc. How do I use file explorer to interact? How do I put files on the hard drive? How do I put directories on it to put the files into? Thanks.
For downloading through the browser, you can change the default location in the settings for the browser(s).

This is in FireFox:
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The L drive is literally a whole other system, with that drive letter mapped. A folder/subfolder in my NAS.
All my house systems and browsers save to that same location.

Your hard drive will have its own drive letter. Might be D, but could be E, F, or Z...😉

Making folders?
In File Explorer.
 
It's a good suggestion to use just a single drive. If you like, you can split files and programs between an SSD and HDD but it's not that usefull. You should also set Windows to install apps onto the HDD, and if you use Steam, place your library on the HDD.

Certainly simpler to use a single drive. Everything will load faster. I would use a HDD for extra storage for videos and photos, and things that don't need speed.

500Gb is not a lot. Here are two 2Tb choices:
- WD Black SN850X https://pcpartpicker.com/product/cr...pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-wds200t2x0e
It's expensive but good.
- Silicon Power UD90 https://pcpartpicker.com/product/f4...40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-sp02kgbp44ud9005
Cheaper, but still a good choice.

If you want a large HDD, i recommend the Toshiba P300. 2,4 or 6 Tb.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/2b...b-35-5400rpm-internal-hard-drive-hdwd240uzsva
 
It's a good suggestion to use just a single drive. If you like, you can split files and programs between an SSD and HDD but it's not that usefull. You should also set Windows to install apps onto the HDD, and if you use Steam, place your library on the HDD.
I believe you meant "...install apps onto the SSD..." ?

Games can go to the HDD, but applications should be on the same SSD with the OS.
 
I believe you meant "...install apps onto the SSD..." ?

Games can go to the HDD, but applications should be on the same SSD with the OS.
Do I install the programs on the SATA drive, and if so, do I have to create a directory and point the install to that directory?
You don't have to create a directory but you have to point Microsoft Store to install apps onto the HDD. Then it will handle the rest itself.

But this isn't useful because many apps will store some files on the SSD anyway, plus your user folder will be on the SSD. So you'll end up with a mixed up mess if you try this.

Better to just store files on the HDD.
As for Steam, it can use any drive for each game you install. You just have to set the drives in Steam settings.

Best to use a single, large drive for everything. Simple.
 
Hi! I'm getting a new computer at the end of the week. I'm not a gamer, but the price is great for this computer.
AMD RYZEN 5 7600X
MSI PRO PRO A620M-E AM5
500GB HP EX900 m.2 Solid State Drive, NVME PCI-Express 3.0
16 gb dr5 memory
500 gb SATA Drive
Thermaltake 500W ultra quiet ATX Power Supply
Thermalright Peerless Assassin CPU cooler
I'm going to put the OS, Windows 10, on the SSD using a USB stick. I assume I'll have to go into the BIOS to designate that drive for the install. How do I activate and format the SATA drive? I'm planning to use the SATA drive to store most of the files. How do I set that up? I know that most installs of programs are put into the Program Files directory. Do I install the programs on the SATA drive, and if so, do I have to create a directory and point the install to that directory? How do I put directories and files on the hard drive? Is there sone program that will set up somethibn\\ng similar to windows explorer to put the directories and files in? Any and all responses will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
1. I can't speak to air cooling as I've used water cooling since 2011 or so.
2. You mention 1/2 TB for each SSD and SATA HDD - another comment about going all SSD is a good idea. 1 TB SSD - even if it were 2.5 inch SATA rather than NVME - is a better way than mixing the drives. 0.5 TB SATA HDD seems odd anyway given the 4TB size is nearly give away priced. I have both types but then the HDD was much bigger and used to store a lot of DVD's I was ripping with MakeMKV (200+ DVDs including multiple disk sets). That's a good use for HDD, raw size when speed isn't important (I was not a creator, just ripping). I'd say go SSD otherwise. I've had an SSD since that 2011 timeframe, never regretted it, but I've also always had a much bigger HDD for media (few thousand CD collection as well).
3. 16 G RAM is good, 500W PS is enough since you aren't gaming (I do SW development and no gaming).
4. Allow Windows to configure the installation folders, and that includes Program Files. If you ever get a 2nd SSD I'd suggest moving all data possible there, but that is a bit more "complicated" - and while it isn't technically "complicated" it involves a bunch of folders in various places. In short, you right click on something like your music folder (documents is more complicated in that it deals with more complex profile folders most of which are hidden) - then select properties and then "location". If you have another folder - already manually created, It will then move all the files and your "music" or whatever will be there from now on and the neat folder icon will go to the new location. The reason it's handy to have a data drive is that if you ever need to re-install windows, the data doesn't change and you don't have to move it off your old C: drive (I use D: for all data).

Regedit at Computer\HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Shell Folders will show where all those special folders are. It's not for the faint of heart, and I strongly recommend you don't do it - but music, pictures, video are all safe to move. Stick with the 3 and you'll be okay - back them up to an external drive before you change locations.
5. Don't bother putting programs any place other than default. If you are installing things that started out on Unix/Linux, things that want to be on C:\something but not C:\Program Files (or program files 86 for 32 bit software) they will often be something like an older programming language or other tool. Just do what it says, but I wish all software followed the Microsoft standards as it's much easier that way (and it doesn't require all manner of stuff in the path).
6. If you ever have to re-install windows, and I've had an older Samsung nVME drive fail (it would work for a few days and fail - replacing it did not fail again), do yourself one more favor if you have an external drive of a few hundred GB you aren't using : keep a copy of everything you will install if your boot drive fails, and that includes downloads of browsers (use several, one for each Gmail account to deal with logins), and various utilities nearly everyone has like Notepad++ or 7Zip or VLC or whatever. Even if you want a clean install just to have a "clean" no junk you no longer need or use) it's so much easier to use your backup of your "downloads" folder or wherever you first put all those things. You can, once backed up, remove them from Downloads. The fact that some will be way out of date isn't a problem - most software will update itself (browsers and the things I mentioned). Your anti-virus and office suite installer as well (whether paid or free).

Those recommendations in the end are simple and I hope you enjoy the new system. Just don't over-think things (ex: moving all special folders and installation locations). Simple is better.

One last tip: check out this video as JayzTwoCents shows how to install windows - if you have to do it yourself and avoid the local account and other hassles. He talks about what to do in what order, a bit over 20 minutes of great advice. "What to do AFTER you build your PC... Updated for 2023" which means if you put together the hardware yourself, but it might fit your post as well:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhHtHMQygzE
 
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Thanks for the response. DUH! I finally got it. For some reason, I envisioned that when I went to the 2nd drive, I'd be on a different desktop. In other words, say I create a directory on D: (the hard drive) Ccleaner, move the app there, and install it, putting the D:/Ccleaner directory as the location for the install, and even the desktop icon will point to this directory so when I click on it, voila!---there be Ccleaner, and all the files it generates will be on the hard drive not the SSD. Right? Thanks.