Sheep

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***
Ovinomancer {2U}
Creature -- Wizard 0/1
Visions Uncommon
- When Ovinomancer comes into play, sacrifice it unless you return
three basic lands you control to their owner's hand.
- {T}, Return Ovinomancer to its owner's hand: Destroy target
creature. It can't be regenerated. That creature's controller puts a
0/1 green Sheep creature token into play.
***

Am I correct in surmising that, if all my creatures have haste,
Ovinomancer can be cast, then tapped and returned to hand before the
triggered ability resolves?

Peter

 

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Peter <knucklehead000@yahoo.com> wrote:

> ***
> Ovinomancer {2U}
> Creature -- Wizard 0/1
> Visions Uncommon
> - When Ovinomancer comes into play, sacrifice it unless you return
> three basic lands you control to their owner's hand.
> - {T}, Return Ovinomancer to its owner's hand: Destroy target
> creature. It can't be regenerated. That creature's controller puts a
> 0/1 green Sheep creature token into play.
> ***
>
> Am I correct in surmising that, if all my creatures have haste,
> Ovinomancer can be cast, then tapped and returned to hand before the
> triggered ability resolves?

Yes.
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knucklehead000@yahoo.com (Peter) writes:

> ***
> Ovinomancer {2U}
> Creature -- Wizard 0/1
> Visions Uncommon
> - When Ovinomancer comes into play, sacrifice it unless you return
> three basic lands you control to their owner's hand.
> - {T}, Return Ovinomancer to its owner's hand: Destroy target
> creature. It can't be regenerated. That creature's controller puts a
> 0/1 green Sheep creature token into play.
> ***
>
> Am I correct in surmising that, if all my creatures have haste,
> Ovinomancer can be cast, then tapped and returned to hand before the
> triggered ability resolves?

Assuming the haste is being granted to it by another effect, then yes, this is
allowed.
--
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DCI Level 2 Judge

 

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On 16 Aug 2004 09:15:15 -0700, knucklehead000@yahoo.com (Peter) wrote:

>***
>Ovinomancer {2U}
>Creature -- Wizard 0/1
>Visions Uncommon
>- When Ovinomancer comes into play, sacrifice it unless you return
>three basic lands you control to their owner's hand.
>- {T}, Return Ovinomancer to its owner's hand: Destroy target
>creature. It can't be regenerated. That creature's controller puts a
>0/1 green Sheep creature token into play.
>***
>
>Am I correct in surmising that, if all my creatures have haste,
>Ovinomancer can be cast, then tapped and returned to hand before the
>triggered ability resolves?

Yes.

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On 16 Aug 2004 09:15:15 -0700, Peter <knucklehead000@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Ovinomancer {2U} Creature -- Wizard 0/1
>Visions Uncommon
>- When Ovinomancer comes into play, sacrifice it unless you return
>three basic lands you control to their owner's hand.
>- {T}, Return Ovinomancer to its owner's hand: Destroy target
>creature. It can't be regenerated. That creature's controller puts a
>0/1 green Sheep creature token into play.
>***
>
>Am I correct in surmising that, if all my creatures have haste,
>Ovinomancer can be cast, then tapped and returned to hand before the
>triggered ability resolves?

Yes. (Assuming here you mean "I have some continuous effect of a static
ability affecting my creatures, giving them haste" rather than "All the
creatures I control before the Ovinomancer appears already have haste, for
whatever reason". Concordant Crossroads, Mass Hysteria, Anger's effect, Fervor,
Fires of Yavimaya, or Goblin Warchief + Conspiracy: "Goblins" will work;
Insurrection resolving before the Ovinomancer arrives will _not_ work, for
example.)

If the Ovinomancer has Haste, or gains it, in response to the triggered
ability, it can then use its activated ability also in response, and won't
be there when the triggered ability resolves and tells you "You may return
three basic lands you control to owners' hand(s). If you don't, sacrifice
Ovinomancer", so you can choose to not return any lands, then find you're
unable to sac the O, so Do Nothing.

Dave
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David DeLaney wrote:

> On 16 Aug 2004 09:15:15 -0700, Peter <knucklehead000@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>Ovinomancer {2U} Creature -- Wizard 0/1
>>Visions Uncommon
>>- When Ovinomancer comes into play, sacrifice it unless you return
>>three basic lands you control to their owner's hand.
>>- {T}, Return Ovinomancer to its owner's hand: Destroy target
>>creature. It can't be regenerated. That creature's controller puts a
>>0/1 green Sheep creature token into play.
>>***
>>
>>Am I correct in surmising that, if all my creatures have haste,
>>Ovinomancer can be cast, then tapped and returned to hand before the
>>triggered ability resolves?
>
> Yes. (Assuming here you mean "I have some continuous effect of a static
> ability affecting my creatures, giving them haste" rather than "All the
> creatures I control before the Ovinomancer appears already have haste, for
> whatever reason". Concordant Crossroads, Mass Hysteria, Anger's effect,
> Fervor, Fires of Yavimaya, or Goblin Warchief + Conspiracy: "Goblins" will
> work; Insurrection resolving before the Ovinomancer arrives will _not_
> work, for example.)
>
> If the Ovinomancer has Haste, or gains it, in response to the triggered
> ability, it can then use its activated ability also in response, and won't
> be there when the triggered ability resolves and tells you "You may return
> three basic lands you control to owners' hand(s). If you don't, sacrifice
> Ovinomancer", so you can choose to not return any lands, then find you're
> unable to sac the O, so Do Nothing.
>
> Dave

Which means that under those circumstances, you can now turn all
your opponent's stuff into sheep, at 2U a sheep, limited only
by your ability to generate the required mana. Ouch.
--
Christopher Mattern

"Which one you figure tracked us?"
"The ugly one, sir."
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Chris Mattern <matternc@comcast.net> wrote in message news:<tbadnZ-Uuov0w7zcRVn-jw@comcast.com>...
> David DeLaney wrote:
>
> > On 16 Aug 2004 09:15:15 -0700, Peter <knucklehead000@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>Ovinomancer {2U} Creature -- Wizard 0/1
> >>Visions Uncommon
> >>- When Ovinomancer comes into play, sacrifice it unless you return
> >>three basic lands you control to their owner's hand.
> >>- {T}, Return Ovinomancer to its owner's hand: Destroy target
> >>creature. It can't be regenerated. That creature's controller puts a
> >>0/1 green Sheep creature token into play.
> >>***
> >>
> >>Am I correct in surmising that, if all my creatures have haste,
> >>Ovinomancer can be cast, then tapped and returned to hand before the
> >>triggered ability resolves?
> >
> > Yes. (Assuming here you mean "I have some continuous effect of a static
> > ability affecting my creatures, giving them haste" rather than "All the
> > creatures I control before the Ovinomancer appears already have haste, for
> > whatever reason". Concordant Crossroads, Mass Hysteria, Anger's effect,
> > Fervor, Fires of Yavimaya, or Goblin Warchief + Conspiracy: "Goblins" will
> > work; Insurrection resolving before the Ovinomancer arrives will _not_
> > work, for example.)

You assume correctly.

> Which means that under those circumstances, you can now turn all
> your opponent's stuff into sheep, at 2U a sheep, limited only
> by your ability to generate the required mana. Ouch.

Ding!!
I'm thinking of throwing in some Chickens and Krazy Kow from Unglued.
Or, maybe other barnyard animals from Unhinged, if there are any...
Peter

 

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>> >>Am I correct in surmising that, if all my creatures have haste,

>> Which means that under those circumstances, you can now turn all
>> your opponent's stuff into sheep, at 2U a sheep, limited only
>> by your ability to generate the required mana. Ouch.
>
>Ding!!
>I'm thinking of throwing in some Chickens and Krazy Kow from Unglued.
>Or, maybe other barnyard animals from Unhinged, if there are any...
>Peter

Combine the haste with Aluren, and you can turn them into sheep for free. =d

 

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> > Which means that under those circumstances, you can now turn all
> > your opponent's stuff into sheep, at 2U a sheep, limited only
> > by your ability to generate the required mana. Ouch.
>
> Ding!!
> I'm thinking of throwing in some Chickens and Krazy Kow from Unglued.
> Or, maybe other barnyard animals from Unhinged, if there are any...
> Peter

Another good card with this: Sneak Attack.
***
Sneak Attack {3R}
Enchantment
Urza's Saga Rare
- {R}: Put a creature card from your hand into play. That creature
gains haste until end of turn. Sacrifice the creature at end of turn.
***

What I like about this is, between this and the Ovinomancer himself,
you should sac him and three lands. But because you can bounce him
right back, none of it happens, and you get 1 sheep per {R}. Nice.

Peter