[SOLVED] Should I be getting a new CPU fan?

[bezwick]

So I recently upgraded my cpu and motherboard. Went from an i5 to an i9. I still had the stock CPU fan that was provided with the i5 and old motherboard. I feel like I’m not getting the most out of my new CPU. I’ve upgraded almost every aspect of my pc since I got it. I play games like Red Dead Redemption 2, and only get about 60-70 frames on medium to high graphics, with an RTX 2070 Super and an i9-10850k. Is this normal? I’m thinking the fan is the last thing that needs to be touched, because it is literally the only part I haven’t changed since I got my pc. Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks.

 

[logainofhades]

Yes, get a better cooler. The stock i5 heatsink is inadequate for an i9. You are probably thermal throttling.

 

[SamirD]

What was the tdp on your old cpu and your new one? If your new one was more, it will stress the older cooler and the fan will run near 100% under load before thermal throttling.

 

[logainofhades]

What was the tdp on your old cpu and your new one? If your new one was more, it will stress the older cooler and the fan will run near 100% under load before thermal throttling.

The TDP doesn't really matter here. The intel stock cooler isn't really enough for any i5, much less a 10 core chip.

 

[bezwick]

Yes, get a better cooler. The stock i5 heatsink is inadequate for an i9. You are probably thermal throttling.

just ordered a new cooler, thanks a bunch.

 

[bezwick]

What was the tdp on your old cpu and your new one? If your new one was more, it will stress the older cooler and the fan will run near 100% under load before thermal throttling.

Old i5 tdp was 65W, new i9 is 95W. Definitely need an upgrade haha

 

[NightHawkRMX]

I agree, an intel stock cooler is completely inadequate for an i9 10850k.

What cooler did you order?

 

[SamirD]

The TDP doesn't really matter here. The intel stock cooler isn't really enough for any i5, much less a 10 core chip.

TDP always matters, and generally a manufacturer isn't going to waste money shipping something if the customer is just going to have to replace it. There are exceptions to this, but generally this is the case.

 

[SamirD]

Old i5 tdp was 65W, new i9 is 95W. Definitely need an upgrade haha

You can possibly get away with a trick I use to run 95w processors under 65w heatsinks--set the hsf fan to 100% all the time. Generally, this is enough cooling even under load unless the chip is a hot one like the 4790k which didn't like this and did hit thermal throttling.

 

[ttower2020]

You can possibly get away with a trick I use to run 95w processors under 65w heatsinks--set the hsf fan to 100% all the time. Generally, this is enough cooling even under load unless the chip is a hot one like the 4790k which didn't like this and did hit thermal throttling.

There is no circumstance where the i5 stock cooler will be enough for an i9 to run properly. Run, yes, run at its capacity, not at all. The i9 is a very beefy chip, and the Intel TDP ratings do not usually show the actual power draw of the CPUs. An i5-8400 is rated at 65W, but actually draws about 50W full load, while the "95W" i9 will actually draw upwards of 150W under heavy load.

@bezwick , what cooler did you order, the i9 series require a very strong cooler to run at full capacity. I recommend something like the Be Quiet Dark Rock Pro 4 or Noctua NH-D15 for air coolers, or a 240mm or larger water cooler if you want to run at full speed, with decent temps.

 

[jasechiu]

So I recently upgraded my cpu and motherboard. Went from an i5 to an i9. I still had the stock CPU fan that was provided with the i5 and old motherboard. I feel like I’m not getting the most out of my new CPU. I’ve upgraded almost every aspect of my pc since I got it. I play games like Red Dead Redemption 2, and only get about 60-70 frames on medium to high graphics, with an RTX 2070 Super and an i9-10850k. Is this normal? I’m thinking the fan is the last thing that needs to be touched, because it is literally the only part I haven’t changed since I got my pc. Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks.

What about your RAM speed and how many GB?

 

[logainofhades]

You can possibly get away with a trick I use to run 95w processors under 65w heatsinks--set the hsf fan to 100% all the time. Generally, this is enough cooling even under load unless the chip is a hot one like the 4790k which didn't like this and did hit thermal throttling.

The 10850k is a very hot chip. It's a 10c/20t CPU. No intel stock cooler is sufficient for such a chip. Any tower cooler, would be better than the stock one. Even this cheap thing would be better. Not enough for a 10850k, but far better than the junk Intel bundles with their CPU's.

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[SamirD]

An i5-8400 is rated at 65W, but actually draws about 50W full load, while the "95W" i9 will actually draw upwards of 150W under heavy load.

It's not the power draw that's important but the thermal classification. It can draw 150w, but if Intel is shipping it with their 95w tdp cooler, then it should normally be fine with such a cooler, hence the fan trick I use might work. Again, if it's just a hottie, then it won't.

 

[SamirD]

The 10850k is a very hot chip. It's a 10c/20t CPU. No intel stock cooler is sufficient for such a chip.

I have no experience with this exact cpu, but generally I have found that legit (not fake) Intel cpu/cooler combos do the job they're supposed to. It wouldn't make business sense for Intel to ship the coolers otherwise.

 

[ttower2020]

I have no experience with this exact cpu, but generally I have found that legit (not fake) Intel cpu/cooler combos do the job they're supposed to. It wouldn't make business sense for Intel to ship the coolers otherwise.

As far as I know, they dont. The K series CPUs, even though they are rated at the same TDP as the non K chips, do not come with Intel coolers, because intel knows the CPU will draw too much power, and create too much heat for their stock coolers to handle.

 

[SamirD]

As far as I know, they dont. The K series CPUs, even though they are rated at the same TDP as the non K chips, do not come with Intel coolers, because intel knows the CPU will draw too much power, and create too much heat for their stock coolers to handle.

Ah, then that makes perfect sense, and business sense too as most K owners would be using higher performance cooling solutions anyways.

It would be interesting to see if the 65w cooler with fan at 100% would at least run the 95w without throttling. That's what I found out for my 4790k, but under a heavy load it would throttle so I upgraded the cooler. On the 1155 and 1156 cpus, even the K series, ramping up the fan works great-- no new cooler needed.