[SOLVED] Should I buy a new PC or upgrade?

[ferioku]

I've had this PC for a while now, Windows 10 home 64 bit, Interl it-4690k cpu 3.50 GHZ 4CPU and to top it off it is a 970 geforce graphics card and a Z97-P motherboard with an 8GB DDR 3 ram...
Should I just buy a new PC?
If i could upgrade how would i do it?
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Thank you!

 

[General Kenobi]

I've had this PC for a while now, Windows 10 home 64 bit, Interl it-4690k cpu 3.50 GHZ 4CPU and to top it off it is a 970 geforce graphics card and a Z97-P motherboard with an 8GB DDR 3 ram...
Should I just buy a new PC?
If i could upgrade how would i do it?
=
Thank you!

Hello there!!
If you wanna do some minor upgrade in a budget getting more ram and ssd if not present would be great, however if you are facing issues while doing important task to you or if you want more fps maybe at higher resolution yes a entire new system would bring a massive improvement. What are you currently or planning to use your pc for? Budget for upgrades/build,
Your monitor resolution. And your current spec.

 

[Archaic59]

I've had this PC for a while now, Windows 10 home 64 bit, Interl it-4690k cpu 3.50 GHZ 4CPU and to top it off it is a 970 geforce graphics card and a Z97-P motherboard with an 8GB DDR 3 ram...
Should I just buy a new PC?
If i could upgrade how would i do it?
=
Thank you!

You need to upgrade to a new platform. New CPU, motherboard, memory and probably a new power supply. You can use the GTX 970 for now to help reduce upgrade costs. I do not recommend spending money on your existing platform as you would just be spending money on a deadend system. Advice on upgrades depends on your budget.

 

[ferioku]

Hello there!!
If you wanna do some minor upgrade in a budget getting more ram and ssd if not present would be great, however if you are facing issues while doing important task to you or if you want more fps maybe at higher resolution yes a entire new system would bring a massive improvement. What are you currently or planning to use your pc for? Budget for upgrades/build,
Your monitor resolution. And your current spec.

Only for gaming, i have a ps5 but i eventually want to get the 3070! So I want to prepare myself for it! Thank you!

 

[ferioku]

You need to upgrade to a new platform. New CPU, motherboard, memory and probably a new power supply. You can use the GTX 970 for now to help reduce upgrade costs. I do not recommend spending money on your existing platform as you would just be spending money on a deadend system. Advice on upgrades depends on your budget.

Okay, I understand now, so what type of componenets would you recommend I get? I'm quite dumb sometimes haha.

 

[General Kenobi]

Only for gaming, i have a ps5 but i eventually want to get the 3070! So I want to prepare myself for it! Thank you!

It's really important to have a budget and to know at what resolution and refresh rate you aim for. Also what kind of games, do you plan to multitask like streaming while playing. Answer these questions so that good build could be recommended.

 

[ferioku]

It's really important to have a budget and to know at what resolution and refresh rate you aim for. Also what kind of games, do you plan to multitask like streaming while playing. Answer these questions so that good build could be recommended.

So I currently have 2 1080p monitors at 144 refresh rates. I want to be able to play high end graphical games without any problems, like the new Call Of Duty Cold War. My budget is probably mid, i don't want to straight up buy the 3090 ever, maybe a 3070 or something =D

 

[General Kenobi]

So I currently have 2 1080p monitors at 144 refresh rates. I want to be able to play high end graphical games without any problems, like the new Call Of Duty Cold War. My budget is probably mid, i don't want to straight up buy the 3090 ever, maybe a 3070 or something =D

Buddy i need to know the exact amount in USD as reference so that we can get your build. Mid price is relative to everyone so what's mid according to me would be different for what mid is to you. So give a fix overall budget.

 

[geofelt]

What is the make/model of all of your parts.
Likely, some can be reused.

Most games are graphics limited. Particularly fast action games.
Your I5-4690K is really quite decent.
Your most effective immediate upgrade would be the graphics card.

Try this simple test::
Run YOUR games, but lower your resolution and eye candy.
This makes the graphics card loaf a bit.
If your FPS increases, it indicates that your cpu is strong enough to drive a better graphics configuration.
If your FPS stays the same, you are likely more cpu limited.

A 3070(if you can find one to buy) should run on the same psu that powers your GTX970.

If you find that you are cpu limited, the first thing I would do is to overclock your 4690K. Some 25% increase in capability is available if you have a decent cpu cooler.
Your 8gb of ram is restrictive, that should be more like 16gb.

Otherwise, for a modern intel or ryzen processor upgrade, you are looking at a companion motherboard and ddr4 ram change also.

 

[ferioku]

Buddy i need to know the exact amount in USD as reference so that we can get your build. Mid price is relative to everyone so what's mid according to me would be different for what mid is to you. So give a fix overall budget.

£500 - £800, does that sound reasonable? I'm still new to this haha.

 

[General Kenobi]

£500 - £800, does that sound reasonable? I'm still new to this haha.

It's ok, but we need to know exact budget it's important to have a fix budget because a slight increment/decrement changes everything

 

[ferioku]

It's ok, but we need to know exact budget it's important to have a fix budget because a slight increment/decrement changes everything

£800 not getting a graphics card just yet =D

 

[General Kenobi]

£800 not getting a graphics card just yet =D

System Builder

pcpartpicker.com

Above is the list of parts i have decided it costs $1183(£888) ik it's £88 more but it will serve you long time and you need those extra core as you have two monitors with high refresh rate. And adding 16gb ram in future would be a good idea.

 

[ferioku]

System Builder

pcpartpicker.com

Above is the list of parts i have decided it costs $1183(£888) ik it's £88 more but it will serve you long time and you need those extra core as you have two monitors with high refresh rate. And adding 16gb ram in future would be a good idea.

Thank you!

Edit: By the way I can't see anything on the list you sent. I think it is blank right now. =(

 

[General Kenobi]

Thank you!

Edit: By the way I can't see anything on the list you sent. I think it is blank right now. =(

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xhczvf

 

[Archaic59]

Okay, I understand now, so what type of componenets would you recommend I get? I'm quite dumb sometimes haha.

This is very close to your budget and will work great for several years. Assumes you use your GTX 970 until you're ready to upgrade it.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor (£311.51 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler (£73.04 @ CCL Computers)
Motherboard: MSI B550-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard (£131.75 @ CCL Computers)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory (£96.97 @ Newegg UK)
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (£69.98 @ CCL Computers)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£50.38 @ CCL Computers)
Power Supply: Corsair TXM Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply (£91.34 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £824.97
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-11-25 13:15 GMT+0000

 

[Archaic59]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xhczvf

If you click and change the little flag at the top of pcpartpicker to United Kingdom you'll get correct pricing and see your build is £400 over budget.

 

[General Kenobi]

If you click and change the little flag at the top of pcpartpicker to United Kingdom you'll get correct pricing and see your build is £400 over budget.

Thanks for making me aware about it. Although are you sure a 5600x would be a good cpu don't get me wrong ik it's a good cpu although for two monitors with high refresh rate imo 8 cores should be minimum also he wants to play AAA games without any issue and the 5600x might run fine now although i don't see alot of future for that processor in a long run.

 

[Archaic59]

Thanks for making me aware about it. Although are you sure a 5600x would be a good cpu don't get me wrong ik it's a good cpu although for two monitors with high refresh rate imo 8 cores should be minimum also he wants to play AAA games without any issue and the 5600x might run fine now although i don't see alot of future for that processor in a long run.

It's the newest CPU his budget supports. I suppose he could use an older 3800x.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3800X 3.9 GHz 8-Core Processor (£324.78 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler (£73.04 @ CCL Computers)
Motherboard: MSI B550-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard (£131.75 @ CCL Computers)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory (£96.95 @ Newegg UK)
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (£69.98 @ CCL Computers)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£50.38 @ CCL Computers)
Power Supply: Corsair TXM Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply (£91.34 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £838.22
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-11-25 14:05 GMT+0000

 

[ferioku]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xhczvf

Thanks

 

[ferioku]

It's the newest CPU his budget supports. I suppose he could use an older 3800x.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3800X 3.9 GHz 8-Core Processor (£324.78 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler (£73.04 @ CCL Computers)
Motherboard: MSI B550-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard (£131.75 @ CCL Computers)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory (£96.95 @ Newegg UK)
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (£69.98 @ CCL Computers)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£50.38 @ CCL Computers)
Power Supply: Corsair TXM Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply (£91.34 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £838.22
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-11-25 14:05 GMT+0000

Thanks!

 

[Juan_Bijero]

Right now, it's kind of a bad time to be upgrading or building a new system. Availability is severely limited and consumers are paying a heavy premium to buy the newest CPUs and GPUs. That said, if it is a choice between spending more money on a graphic card or CPU - spend the most on the graphic card. Running at 1080P will mean that your frame rates will be limited by the CPU rather than the GPU. If you intend to move up to 1440P or 4K then the frame rates will be more limited by your graphic card. Ryzen CPUs are fine for gaming. I currently run an RTX 3080 on Ryzen 7 3700X system. Buy what you can afford and what is available. (The reason that I was able to pick up a 3080 so quickly was that I had recently purchased an EVGA RTX 2070 Super that I was able to "Step Up" to a better graphic card through EVGA's Step Up Program. Basically, I RMA'd my 2070 Super to EVGA and they gave me full credit for the purchase price of that card and then charged me the difference between that amount and the price of the RTX 3080 FTW3 Ultra Gaming card).

 

[RodroX]

Hello, this is my take on the system, I do agree with Archaic59 the 5600X is a nice CPU to go with. He can upgrade later to the 5800X or 5900X if he need it. I do not think theres a need to get a new CPU cooler as from the reviews I saw the stock one does a pretty great job with the 5600X. If need it there are lots of choice out there: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/PnPKHx/arctic-freezer-34-esports-duo-cpu-cooler-acfre00061a, https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product...xblack-55-cfm-cpu-cooler-nh-u12s-chromaxblack. Last thing to mention, I would really try and go all solid state drives if posible

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor (£311.51 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Motherboard: Asus PRIME X570-P ATX AM4 Motherboard (£148.65 @ CCL Computers)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory (£69.69 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Kingston A2000 250 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (£31.98 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN550 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (£89.99 @ Box Limited)
Power Supply: Corsair RM (2019) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (£107.99 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £759.81
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-11-25 16:55 GMT+0000

You could go the intel way too:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-10600K 4.1 GHz 6-Core Processor (£238.00 @ Technextday)
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 280 72.8 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (£101.49 @ Scan.co.uk)
Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING Z490-PLUS ATX LGA1200 Motherboard (£162.16 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory (£69.69 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Kingston A2000 250 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (£31.98 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN550 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (£89.99 @ Box Limited)
Power Supply: Corsair RM (2019) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (£107.99 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £801.30
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-11-25 17:00 GMT+0000

Cheers

 

[General Kenobi]

Hello, this is my take on the system, I do agree with Archaic59 the 5600X is a nice CPU to go with. He can upgrade later to the 5800X or 5900X if he need it. I do not think theres a need to get a new CPU cooler as from the reviews I saw the stock one does a pretty great job with the 5600X. If need it there are lots of choice out there: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/PnPKHx/arctic-freezer-34-esports-duo-cpu-cooler-acfre00061a, https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product...xblack-55-cfm-cpu-cooler-nh-u12s-chromaxblack. Last thing to mention, I would really try and go all solid state drives if posible

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor (£311.51 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Motherboard: Asus PRIME X570-P ATX AM4 Motherboard (£148.65 @ CCL Computers)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory (£69.69 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Kingston A2000 250 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (£31.98 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN550 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (£89.99 @ Box Limited)
Power Supply: Corsair RM (2019) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (£107.99 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £759.81
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-11-25 16:55 GMT+0000

You could go the intel way too:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-10600K 4.1 GHz 6-Core Processor (£238.00 @ Technextday)
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 280 72.8 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (£101.49 @ Scan.co.uk)
Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING Z490-PLUS ATX LGA1200 Motherboard (£162.16 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory (£69.69 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Kingston A2000 250 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (£31.98 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN550 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (£89.99 @ Box Limited)
Power Supply: Corsair RM (2019) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (£107.99 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £801.30
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-11-25 17:00 GMT+0000

Cheers

Hello, this is my take on the system, I do agree with Archaic59 the 5600X is a nice CPU to go with. He can upgrade later to the 5800X or 5900X if he need it. I do not think theres a need to get a new CPU cooler as from the reviews I saw the stock one does a pretty great job with the 5600X. If need it there are lots of choice out there: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/PnPKHx/arctic-freezer-34-esports-duo-cpu-cooler-acfre00061a, https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product...xblack-55-cfm-cpu-cooler-nh-u12s-chromaxblack. Last thing to mention, I would really try and go all solid state drives if posible

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor (£311.51 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Motherboard: Asus PRIME X570-P ATX AM4 Motherboard (£148.65 @ CCL Computers)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory (£69.69 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Kingston A2000 250 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (£31.98 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN550 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (£89.99 @ Box Limited)
Power Supply: Corsair RM (2019) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (£107.99 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £759.81
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-11-25 16:55 GMT+0000

You could go the intel way too:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-10600K 4.1 GHz 6-Core Processor (£238.00 @ Technextday)
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 280 72.8 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (£101.49 @ Scan.co.uk)
Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING Z490-PLUS ATX LGA1200 Motherboard (£162.16 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory (£69.69 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Kingston A2000 250 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (£31.98 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN550 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (£89.99 @ Box Limited)
Power Supply: Corsair RM (2019) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (£107.99 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £801.30
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-11-25 17:00 GMT+0000

Cheers

The reason it was changed to ryzen 7 3800x was because @ferioku has two 1080 144hz monitor and he wants to play AAA titles without any issue, also consider this if he now gets a 5600x now for $300 and three years later he gets a 5900x for $400(it's $550 now) so over the course of 3 years he'd spend $700 it would be very practical if he gets now a 5900x although that's not possible as he's limited by budget so i believe for two monitors with 144hz although the 3800x might be slower than 5600x it would be much smoother. I know the prices i gave in examples is in usd but you get the math.