Should i buy gtx 980 or wait for R9 390X?

[Phantom288]

So as the title says should I buy the gtx 980 or wait for the R9 390X from amd?Will R9 390X be faster?I currently have R9 270X 4 GB with a 550 w psu and core i5 3330 processor

 

[krells]

Unless I have missed an update the 390x is just a rebrand of the 290x. In that case it will not be faster than the 980.

 

[HCSn]

Unless I have missed an update the 390x is just a rebrand of the 290x. In that case it will not be faster than the 980.

It is a rebrand, but "enhanced" so it's supposed to be significantly better than the 290X (such as having 8gb vram). I think it's worth waiting just in case. It's only another, what, 3 or 4 days before we start seeing the 300 series?

 

[manmeetpaul]

With dx12 and hbm, 390x will smoke 980 for sure. Even 290x gives better results than GTX titan and 980ti with dx12 in early benchmark tests.

 

[HCSn]

With dx12 and hbm, 390x will smoke 980 for sure. Even 290x gives better results than GTX titan and 980ti with dx12 in early benchmark tests.

But they are still early benchmark tests, I wouldn't trust that just yet. It may well be true, but until DX12 comes out I would be apprehensive to make a decision based on that.

 

[manmeetpaul]

The card will launch on 16th, just 2 more days, it'll at part with 980,and having more VRAM will alone make it a better card than 980 and the ti version upon dx12 release

 

[gokitty199]

The card will launch on 16th, just 2 more days, it'll at part with 980,and having more VRAM will alone make it a better card than 980 and the ti version upon dx12 release

you are making me facepalm right now, there is a drastic difference between a staged test and real world performance, also you know directx 12 does not affect current games right? you will have to wait for new games that are created using the new API which will be quite a while.

 

[manmeetpaul]

The card will launch on 16th, just 2 more days, it'll at part with 980,and having more VRAM will alone make it a better card than 980 and the ti version upon dx12 release

you are making me facepalm right now, there is a drastic difference between a staged test and real world performance, also you know directx 12 does not affect current games right? you will have to wait for new games that are created using the new API which will be quite a while.

Just because you have a 970 doesn't mean you have to defend it. Let's face it, 290x failed because of it's software support, ask any expert. Your ignorance won't make 970 a better card. It has always been more power efficient and that's where it all ends.

 

[gokitty199]

The card will launch on 16th, just 2 more days, it'll at part with 980,and having more VRAM will alone make it a better card than 980 and the ti version upon dx12 release

you are making me facepalm right now, there is a drastic difference between a staged test and real world performance, also you know directx 12 does not affect current games right? you will have to wait for new games that are created using the new API which will be quite a while.

Just because you have a 970 doesn't mean you have to defend it. Let's face it, 290x failed because of it's software support, ask any expert. Your ignorance won't make 970 a better card. It has always been more power efficient and that's where it all ends.

this has nothing to do about what card i have, im excited for the higher end 300 series and depending on how the 390x performs i may purchase it and throw my 970 in my brothers rig or as a backup. your comment had nothing to do with what i said you just brought up what card i had and attempted to fanboy me(correct me if im wrong) about it and complained about it.

 

[17seconds]

The 290x is a hot GPU requiring high-end custom cooling just to maintain its advertised clock speeds. An "enhanced" 290x, i.e. 390x, with higher clock speeds is only going to eat into that thermal overhead even more, requiring more cooling and offering even less overclocking ability. And then, it will still be dependent upon AMD driver support, and it still won't do PhysX, DirectX 12.1, Adaptive VSync, HBAO+, MFAA, FXAA, etc.

The 390x is a last gen GPU being produced by a company that is too strapped for cash to actually put out a true new generation as a series of cards, rather than just one card. Even if it did beat a stock GTX 980 by a few insignificant FPS, which it likely won't, do you really want to climb on board that bandwagon?

 

[HCSn]

The 290x is a hot GPU requiring high-end custom cooling just to maintain its advertised clock speeds. An "enhanced" 290x, i.e. 390x, with higher clock speeds is only going to eat into that thermal overhead even more, requiring more cooling and offering even less overclocking ability. And then, it will still be dependent upon AMD driver support, and it still won't do PhysX, DirectX 12.1, Adaptive VSync, HBAO+, MFAA, FXAA, etc.

The 390x is a last gen GPU being produced by a company that is too strapped for cash to actually put out a true new generation as a series of cards, rather than just one card. Even if it did beat a stock GTX 980 by a few insignificant FPS, which it likely won't, do you really want to climb on board that bandwagon?

You're probably right about most of that. However I think it's possible (albeit not likely) that AMD has reduced the heat output and/or power consumption (less likely) on the new cards. We'll have to see when they come out. For what it's worth, if the 390X doesn't perform significantly better than 290X AND still has high TDP, the 980 is the clear way to go. If AMD isn't improving significantly on their GCN units, Maxwell architecture is going to kill any chance they have of being a contender in the GPU business.

 

[turkey3_scratch]

The 390X does not contain HBM. The main differences are a slightly higher clock rate than the 290x and featuring 8GB VRAM. Someone already owns a 390X - they bought it at Best Buy because they accidentally put it on the shelf. According to his benchmarks it is only a small minor improvement over the 290X. There are Youtube videos on it.

The new cards also have the same power consumption. There are no really easy ways to decrease consumption if arch is exactly the same. Heat goes with that, unless better coolers are made but I'm not sure. Right now Nvidia is the way to go for this price. Only the Fury do I see actually competing at all in the market.

 

[HCSn]

The 390X does not contain HBM. The main differences are a slightly higher clock rate than the 290x and featuring 8GB VRAM. Someone already owns a 390X - they bought it at Best Buy because they accidentally put it on the shelf. According to his benchmarks it is only a small minor improvement over the 290X. There are Youtube videos on it.

The new cards also have the same power consumption. There are no really easy ways to decrease consumption if arch is exactly the same. Heat goes with that, unless better coolers are made but I'm not sure. Right now Nvidia is the way to go for this price. Only the Fury do I see actually competing at all in the market.

Yeah if they've changed nothing but clock speeds and vram then it's going to be a bust. It's not worth having a card constantly throttling plus possibly upgrading your PSU for a card using architecture that's 3+ years old.

 

[turkey3_scratch]

The 390X does not contain HBM. The main differences are a slightly higher clock rate than the 290x and featuring 8GB VRAM. Someone already owns a 390X - they bought it at Best Buy because they accidentally put it on the shelf. According to his benchmarks it is only a small minor improvement over the 290X. There are Youtube videos on it.

The new cards also have the same power consumption. There are no really easy ways to decrease consumption if arch is exactly the same. Heat goes with that, unless better coolers are made but I'm not sure. Right now Nvidia is the way to go for this price. Only the Fury do I see actually competing at all in the market.

Yeah if they've changed nothing but clock speeds and vram then it's going to be a bust. It's not worth having a card constantly throttling plus possibly upgrading your PSU for a card using architecture that's 3+ years old.

Exactly. I respect the ideas of rebrands but for AMD this was the wrong time - it's been that arch too long now.

 

[renz496]

290X might be better in DX12 API overhead but that's just API overhead test. It does not count in shader performance. In PCper own test even 960 can be as fast as 980 once overclocked. To 'pump' your frame rate you still need shader performance. DX12 overhead reduction will only help to minimize the overhead that could bottleneck the performance.

 

[HCSn]

290X might be better in DX12 API overhead but that's just API overhead test. It does not count in shader performance. In PCper own test even 960 can be as fast as 980 once overclocked. To 'pump' your frame rate you still need shader performance. DX12 overhead reduction will only help to minimize the overhead that could bottleneck the performance.

Yeah, I have no doubt DX12 will do amazing things for team red AND team green. It's worth noting that performance tests using DX12, such as 3D Mark, specifically say not to use that test to compare performance between GPU's.

 

[manmeetpaul]

The 390X does not contain HBM. The main differences are a slightly higher clock rate than the 290x and featuring 8GB VRAM. Someone already owns a 390X - they bought it at Best Buy because they accidentally put it on the shelf. According to his benchmarks it is only a small minor improvement over the 290X. There are Youtube videos on it.

The new cards also have the same power consumption. There are no really easy ways to decrease consumption if arch is exactly the same. Heat goes with that, unless better coolers are made but I'm not sure. Right now Nvidia is the way to go for this price. Only the Fury do I see actually competing at all in the market.

Those videos are fake. Also, AMD has come up with HBM but they are featured in fiji XT.

 

[Bossyfins]

The 390X does not contain HBM. The main differences are a slightly higher clock rate than the 290x and featuring 8GB VRAM. Someone already owns a 390X - they bought it at Best Buy because they accidentally put it on the shelf. According to his benchmarks it is only a small minor improvement over the 290X. There are Youtube videos on it.

The new cards also have the same power consumption. There are no really easy ways to decrease consumption if arch is exactly the same. Heat goes with that, unless better coolers are made but I'm not sure. Right now Nvidia is the way to go for this price. Only the Fury do I see actually competing at all in the market.

You're wrong, it does contain HBM, do your research. And those videos are totally fake.Even the benchmark shows 290x LOL.

No you are really wrong. The 390x and below are rebrands with some new features. The new gpus are called Fury and Fury X. There is an unboxing of a 390x with 8 gig of gddr5... Not HBM

 

[ern88]

The 390X does not contain HBM. The main differences are a slightly higher clock rate than the 290x and featuring 8GB VRAM. Someone already owns a 390X - they bought it at Best Buy because they accidentally put it on the shelf. According to his benchmarks it is only a small minor improvement over the 290X. There are Youtube videos on it.

The new cards also have the same power consumption. There are no really easy ways to decrease consumption if arch is exactly the same. Heat goes with that, unless better coolers are made but I'm not sure. Right now Nvidia is the way to go for this price. Only the Fury do I see actually competing at all in the market.

You're wrong, it does contain HBM, do your research. And those videos are totally fake.Even the benchmark shows 290x LOL.

No dude. You are wrong. The R9 390x is a rebranded 290x. Just with 8 gigs of GDDR5 memory. The Radeon Fury is the cards with the HBM ram. You need to use google my friend.

 

[manmeetpaul]

The 390X does not contain HBM. The main differences are a slightly higher clock rate than the 290x and featuring 8GB VRAM. Someone already owns a 390X - they bought it at Best Buy because they accidentally put it on the shelf. According to his benchmarks it is only a small minor improvement over the 290X. There are Youtube videos on it.

The new cards also have the same power consumption. There are no really easy ways to decrease consumption if arch is exactly the same. Heat goes with that, unless better coolers are made but I'm not sure. Right now Nvidia is the way to go for this price. Only the Fury do I see actually competing at all in the market.

You're wrong, it does contain HBM, do your research. And those videos are totally fake.Even the benchmark shows 290x LOL.

No dude. You are wrong. The R9 390x is a rebranded 290x. Just with 8 gigs of GDDR5 memory. The Radeon Fury is the cards with the HBM ram. You need to use google my friend.

You mean fiji? Anyways, the op wanted to know about the new AMD cards I guess. Fiji XT and fiji pro will retail as Fiji XT 390x. I guess you all will call that too re branding with HBM I guess?

 

[Bossyfins]

IT isnt being called 390x. All articles are pointing to a 'FURY' branding, as said, someone unboxed a 390x. 8 gigs of gddr5 is not hbm.

 

[Bossyfins]

http://wccftech.com/msi-radeon-300-complete-series-lineup-leaked-r9-390x-gaming-8g-leads-pack/

Hawaii XT is the 290x. So

http://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-r9-fury-x-confirmed-official-marketing-material-card-4096bit-wide-memory-interface-hbm/

 

[ern88]

I take these benches with a grain of salt. Will wait till tomorrow for the hopefully real benches!!!!