Should I buy this gaming PC?

[ADHM]

Hey guys. I'm currently trying to buy a good gaming PC, and I think that I've found the one. But since my knowledge on computer hardware is limited, I'd like to know if you could help me figure out if this computer is worth buying. I want a computer that is able to run games like Watch Dogs and Crysis 3 on "Ultra" or "Very High" quality. The price for the computer is 1.500$. Thank you in advance!

The specs for the computer I'm considering is:

CPU: INTEL i5 4570, 3.2GHZ

Motherboard: ASUS B85M-G

Graphic Card: ASUS 3GB GTX 780 OC DIRECTCU II

CPU-Cooler: Coolermaster HYPER TX3

Hard Drive: 1 TB

Ram: 8 GB 1600 MHZ DDR3 HYPER-X

Power Supply: Coolermaster 650W 80+ bronze certified

Operating System: Windows 8.1 64bit

 

[Gunmetal_61]

Spec-wise, it good for what you want, but some might worry about the power supply. Cooler Master isn't considered to be the strongest in this category. I'm not exactly an expert on which one you should buy particularly, but people often recommend SeaSonic, XFX, or Corsair. I do know a little more about Corsair. With Corsair, the TX, HX, or AX series is best. You should also bump up the wattage supported to at least 750W. The GTX 780 can be power hungry.

The Hyper TX3 is a tiny heat sink for today; it only has the dimensions to support a 92mm fan. It's not the best. Instead, go for a heatsink with at least a 120mm fan. A good economical one would be the Hyper 212 EVO (~$25-$30). It'll cool the CPU much better under load with less noise, especially if overclocking (which your current CPU can't, I'll get to that later.)

Any current i5 is fast, but if you want more performance, you can get the overclockable version (a CPU which allows you to crank up it's clock rate (GHz) beyond specifications). The i5-4670K or i5-4690K is a good option. However, you will need a Z87 or Z97 motherboard. The latter of both types of parts I specified are newer and slightly better. Just as a side note, the Haswell refresh version of your current selected CPU is the i5-4590. It's clocked slightly faster and is best paired with the new set of motherboards, the H97 or Z97. The older Haswell CPUs and their corresponding Z87/H87/B85 chipsets are all intercompatible, but if it's a new build, get the newest.

Regarding the motherboard, are you sure the B85 has what you need? Here's a list of what each chipset can do:
http://uk.hardware.info/reviews/4444/2/33-haswell-motherboard-group-test-26x-z87-4x-h87-and-3x-b85-the-three-chipsets-b85-h87-and-z87

They are all just as fast, but support different sets of features. If you choose to get an overclockable CPU, you must get a Z series board. The Z97 and H97 boards can be thought of as having the exact same features as the H87 and Z87 boards.

 

[aebome]

I don't know where you are located, but I assume not in the US considering your use of a period in the budget (people in the US usually write fifteen hundred dollars this way: $1,500). However, I as am in the US I only have a good knowledge of US pricing.

All that said, that price seems high, since the parts them selves, including a case which you did not list, amount to $1,090 here in the US. $410 seems like a high premium, even if buying prebuilt (which it sounds like you may be doing).

Additionally, considering the other components in the PC, it is odd that there is no SSD, since a good 256GB one here is about $108 (Crucial MX100) and the motherboard seems lower end, compared other H97 chipset boards available in the same price range (such as ASRock H97 Pro4).

That said, there is nothing wrong with the components that I can see, there are just some odd choices/omissions, especially for the price, which is too higher.

Here is a list of pricing I put together to illustrate the above:
PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ZYNqrH
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ZYNqrH/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4570 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($193.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper TX3 54.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($16.98 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus B85M-G R2.0 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($79.99 @ TigerDirect)
Memory: Corsair XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($71.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($51.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 780 3GB DirectCU II Video Card ($459.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Cooler Master RS 650W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($76.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-14 DVD/CD Writer ($13.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1090.87
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-08 15:30 EDT-0400

Hope this helps.

 

[ADHM]

Spec-wise, it good for what you want, but some might worry about the power supply. Cooler Master isn't considered to be the strongest in this category. I'm not exactly an expert on which one you should buy particularly, but people often recommend SeaSonic, XFX, or Corsair. I do know a little more about Corsair. With Corsair, the TX, HX, or AX series is best. You should also bump up the wattage supported to at least 750W. The GTX 780 can be power hungry.

The Hyper TX3 is a tiny heat sink for today; it only has the dimensions to support a 92mm fan. It's not the best. Instead, go for a heatsink with at least a 120mm fan. A good economical one would be the Hyper 212 EVO (~$25-$30). It'll cool the CPU much better under load with less noise, especially if overclocking (which your current CPU can't, I'll get to that later.)

Any current i5 is fast, but if you want more performance, you can get the overclockable version (a CPU which allows you to crank up it's clock rate (GHz) beyond specifications). The i5-4670K or i5-4690K is a good option. However, you will need a Z87 or Z97 motherboard. The latter of both types of parts I specified are newer and slightly better. Just as a side note, the Haswell refresh version of your current selected CPU is the i5-4590. It's clocked slightly faster and is best paired with the new set of motherboards, the H97 or Z97. The older Haswell CPUs and their corresponding Z87/H87/B85 chipsets are all intercompatible, but if it's a new build, get the newest.

Regarding the motherboard, are you sure the B85 has what you need? Here's a list of what each chipset can do:
http://uk.hardware.info/reviews/4444/2/33-haswell-motherboard-group-test-26x-z87-4x-h87-and-3x-b85-the-three-chipsets-b85-h87-and-z87

They are all just as fast, but support different sets of features. If you choose to get an overclockable CPU, you must get a Z series board. The Z97 and H97 boards can be thought of as having the exact same features as the H87 and Z87 boards.

Thank you for your quick answer! The site I'm buying the computer from, allows me to upgrade the power supply to a 850W 80+ XFX Pro Series, but I can't get any other brand than Coolermaster. Would that work better? Even though I know it's still Coolermaster. 😉

The site let's me upgrade the CPU-cooler to a Coolermaster Seidon Watercool. Would that be better than the TX3? The seller told me that the watercooling would make more noise that the TX3, do you know if that's the case?

I'm able to upgrade the motherboard to the Z87-K and the CPU to the i5-4670K, so I think I'll go with that. Because I might want to overclock it sometime.

 

[ADHM]

I don't know where you are located, but I assume not in the US considering your use of a period in the budget (people in the US usually write fifteen hundred dollars this way: $1,500). However, I as am in the US I only have a good knowledge of US pricing.

All that said, that price seems high, since the parts them selves, including a case which you did not list, amount to $1,090 here in the US. $410 seems like a high premium, even if buying prebuilt (which it sounds like you may be doing).

Additionally, considering the other components in the PC, it is odd that there is no SSD, since a good 256GB one here is about $108 (Crucial MX100) and the motherboard seems lower end, compared other H97 chipset boards available in the same price range (such as ASRock H97 Pro4).

That said, there is nothing wrong with the components that I can see, there are just some odd choices/omissions, especially for the price, which is too higher.

Here is a list of pricing I put together to illustrate the above:
PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ZYNqrH
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ZYNqrH/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4570 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($193.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper TX3 54.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($16.98 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus B85M-G R2.0 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($79.99 @ TigerDirect)
Memory: Corsair XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($71.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($51.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 780 3GB DirectCU II Video Card ($459.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Cooler Master RS 650W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($76.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-14 DVD/CD Writer ($13.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1090.87
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-08 15:30 EDT-0400

Hope this helps.

Thank you for your answer. And your assumption is correct. I'm located in Denmark, and that's why my english gramma isn't perfect. 😉

I completely forgot about the case! It's a "Coolermaster Xtreme Gamer". I'm buying it prebuild, since I'm pretty sure I'd mess something up, if I tried building it myself. And the site which is selling this computer, is unfortunately the cheapest prebuilding-site I could find in Denmark.

I can change the harddrive to a 250SSD Samsung 840EVO for $98 (Notice you've learned me something) 😉 - But I just figured the "250SSD" part meant it only had 250 GB? Which if that's the case, isn't enough for me.

Would it be better if I upgraded the motherboard to a: "ASUS Z87-K" instead then?

 

[aebome]

Thank you for your answer. And your assumption is correct. I'm located in Denmark, and that's why my english gramma isn't perfect. 😉

I completely forgot about the case! It's a "Coolermaster Xtreme Gamer". I'm buying it prebuild, since I'm pretty sure I'd mess something up, if I tried building it myself. And the site which is selling this computer, is unfortunately the cheapest prebuilding-site I could find in Denmark.

I can change the harddrive to a 250SSD Samsung 840EVO for $98 (Notice you've learned me something) 😉 - But I just figured the "250SSD" part meant it only had 250 GB? Which if that's the case, isn't enough for me.

Would it be better if I upgraded the motherboard to a: "ASUS Z87-K" instead then?

Pre-built tends to run more expensive, and I know parts tend to be higher in Europe/Scandinavia, so pricing probably isn't too far off.

In my opinion I would do one of two things for the hard drive. Either 1) upgrade to the SSD and buy a harddrive and install that or 2) leave your hard drive selection and buy an SSD. It may be easier to upgrade to the SSD (its a good one) and install a storage mechanical hard drive if the computer comes with Windows pre-installed. the site edbpriser.dk aparently is a good site for parts, so I would look there for a good drive, either SSD or mechanical hard drive.

A good hard drive (http://www.edbpriser.dk/harddisk/wd-blue-wd10ezex-1-tb-id-6833684.aspx) is only 366 kr, so now that I've looked at that site, I would probably upgrade to the SSD and buy that drive and install it when the computer arrives. It is a very simple process, and worth the slight extra cost of not having to re-install Windows.

As for the motherboard, if you plan on getting the k-series Intel processor, the the Z87 is needed for overclocking, so yes I would get that.