Question Should I even be looking at this PC from Costco?

Lutfij

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After this thread, with stellar suggestions, I wouldn't ask you to get that prebuilt. The prebuilt is not a mild step it's akin to sliding down the entire mountain. Steve on Gamers Nexus has stated that Dell's prebuilts aren't worth the money. You go through one of Dell's teardowns and then realize it's just a system in a box and you're limited to said box's boundaries, meaning your upgrade options are heavily stifled. I won't address the lack of a discrete GPU in the prebuilt.
 

jaged

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Yeah I was thinking that way as well but just wanted confirmation I guess.
I’ve just looked at so many components etc the last week my head in spinning in trying to design a new rig for myself.

thanks for the reply
 

logainofhades

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Yea that is a horrible PC, for the price. You could do much better, gaming wise, doing your own build.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-12400 2.5 GHz 6-Core Processor ($207.76 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool GAMMAXX GTE V2 64.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($30.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI PRO B660M-A DDR4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($139.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($63.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: SK hynix Gold P31 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon RX 6600 8 GB PULSE Video Card ($379.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Deepcool MATREXX 40 3FS MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($73.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Antec Earthwatts Gold Pro 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply ($72.50 @ Amazon)
Total: $1079.19
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-04-07 15:57 EDT-0400
 
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jaged

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Yea that is a horrible PC, for the price. You could do much better, gaming wise, doing your own build.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-12400 2.5 GHz 6-Core Processor ($207.76 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool GAMMAXX GTE V2 64.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($30.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI PRO B660M-A DDR4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($139.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($63.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: SK hynix Gold P31 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon RX 6600 8 GB PULSE Video Card ($379.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Deepcool MATREXX 40 3FS MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($73.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Antec Earthwatts Gold Pro 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply ($72.50 @ Amazon)
Total: $1079.19
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-04-07 15:57 EDT-0400
Thanks man. I appreciate you putting that together for me. I’ll definitely take a close look at it.
 

Why_Me

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Get yourself a cheap USB flash drive, download Windows installer and use the free version of Windows for now.

https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B083LYL7V5
Phanteks Eclipse P300A Mid-Tower $99.99

https://www.newegg.ca/evga-550-b5-220-b5-0550-v1-550w/p/N82E16817438167
EVGA 550 B5 80+ BRONZE 550W Modular Power Supply $59.99

https://www.newegg.ca/p/N82E16813157978
ASRock B560M PRO4 $139.99 - $89.99 after $50.00 rebate

https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B086MHSTWN
Intel Core i5-10400F $169.99

https://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=8_129&item_id=159142
DEEPCOOL Gammaxx 400S CPU Cooler $29.99

https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B07NKYM62D
Silicon XPOWER DDR4 3200MHz 16GB (2x8GB) CL16 $74.99

https://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=179_4230&item_id=138945
Team Group GX2 2.5" 1TB SATA III Internal SSD $99.99

https://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=43_557_558&item_id=206490
ASUS Dual Radeon RX 6600 OC 8GB Graphics Card $499.00

Total: $1175 CAD *not including shipping & rebates

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-core-i5-10400f/22.html
 

logainofhades

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I wouldn't recommend dead platform hardware. A bit over that OEM junk, but will game far better, and can be upgraded.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i3-12100F 3.3 GHz Quad-Core Processor ($130.00 @ Vuugo)
Motherboard: MSI PRO B660M-A DDR4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($187.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($84.99 @ Memory Express)
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN570 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($114.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Video Card: Asus Radeon RX 6600 8 GB DUAL Video Card ($499.00 @ Canada Computers)
Case: Deepcool MATREXX 30 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($49.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Power Supply: Corsair CXM 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Total: $1126.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-04-08 10:17 EDT-0400
 
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I wouldn't recommend dead platform hardware. A bit over that OEM junk, but will game far better, and can be upgraded.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i3-12100F 3.3 GHz Quad-Core Processor ($130.00 @ Vuugo)
Motherboard: MSI PRO B660M-A DDR4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($187.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($84.99 @ Memory Express)
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN570 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($114.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Video Card: Asus Radeon RX 6600 8 GB DUAL Video Card ($499.00 @ Canada Computers)
Case: Deepcool MATREXX 30 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($49.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Power Supply: Corsair CXM 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Total: $1126.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-04-08 10:17 EDT-0400
I don't think the 12100 is very good value with how expensive the motherboards are. It would probably be better to get a 10400 or 10100 or spend more for a 12400
 

logainofhades

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Spending more on the 12400 yes, the 10400 not really. With an RX 6600 there would be 0 difference, in gaming, but you get an actual upgrade path. Also that board is much cheaper, in USD, than CAD. Everything costs more there.

But is also means when more CPU limited in todays games, the 12100F is often comparable to parts such as the Ryzen 7 3700X and Core i5-10600K, which is remarkable.

It's also a huge step up from the Core i3-10100F, boosting 1% lows by 28% on average with a 21% increase for the average frame rate. It's also typically quite a bit punchier than the Ryzen 5 3600, another great budget CPU from years past.
 
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jacob249358

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Spending more on the 12400 yes, the 10400 not really. With an RX 6600 there would be 0 difference, in gaming, but you get an actual upgrade path. Also that board is much cheaper, in USD, than CAD. Everything costs more there.



Wow I did not realize it was that good. And considering a lot of games don't take advantage of more than 8 threads it looks great for gaming
 

jaged

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Yea, Alder Lake's IPC is just that much better.
Well I finally bit the bullet.
Here's my final list:

PCPartPicker Part List: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/KLpkXy

CPU: Intel Core i3-12100F 3.3 GHz Quad-Core Processor (Purchased For $144.99)
Motherboard: MSI PRO B660M-A DDR4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard (Purchased For $179.99)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory (Purchased For $84.99)
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN570 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (Purchased For $114.99)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce RTX 3060 12 GB XC GAMING Video Card (Purchased For $549.99)
Case: NZXT H510 ATX Mid Tower Case (Purchased For $78.00)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS Plus Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (Purchased For $79.99)
Total: $1232.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-04-10 10:26 EDT-0400
 
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