Should I get the Nvidia GTX 780 Ti?

[NLP97]

I know this sounds very vague but I was wondering whether or not I should buy it and if anyone could give me some good reasons as to why I should e.g. is it future proof (to what extent), is it worth it, are there better cards for £550?, or should I wait?

 

[Denis Stoikovski]

I know this sounds very vague but I was wondering whether or not I should buy it and if anyone could give me some good reasons as to why I should e.g. is it future proof (to what extent), is it worth it, are there better cards for £550?, or should I wait?

Good reason? Well this month am about to get gtx 770 but as i see http://www.game-debate.com/games/index.php?g_id=4546&game=Watch%20Dogs i will need 780 minimum -_- so yeah better get and if its a ti you're just fine but let us know what is your cpu and other copmponents

 

[Plusthinking Iq]

it comes down to 780 or 780ti, 780ti is more powerhungry and will make more noise, maybe save som bucks and get more ssd space.
if its an upgrade and you got an older cpu its best to wait until 800 series comes out, maybe amd is coming out with something great soon who knows.

 

[cst1992]

it comes down to 780 or 780ti, 780ti is more powerhungry and will make more noise, maybe save som bucks and get more ssd space.
if its an upgrade and you got an older cpu its best to wait until 800 series comes out, maybe amd is coming out with something great soon who knows.

Please get your facts right. 780 and 780Ti use the same GK110 GPU chip, and so consume same amount of power(250W).
Just that the 780 has 12 SMX processors and the 780Ti has 15(that's why NVIDIA advertises the 780Ti to have 25% more cores than the 780; in reality the 780 has 80% cores of the 780Ti, if you get my meaning).

 

[Plusthinking Iq]

cores use power, dont they.... the ti uses about 30 more watts....

 

[cst1992]

The 2 cards have the same TDP. You must be comparing stock vs overclocked, which should have different power consumption(obviously, because of higher voltage and clock values).

 

[Dblkk]

Ultimately, question is:

Are you going to run multiple monitors? Are you going to be running 1440p or 4k screen resolution?
If yes, then either the 780 or 780ti will be required. if 1400p or tri 1080p monitors then 780 would be fine, if your going to be running 4k monitor, or multiple monitors but still want ultra graphics then get the 780ti.
If no, then don't need anything that expensive.
What graphics settings do you want to play on?
High settings, all you need is a 760 or 270x/280. If ultra, 770 or 280x/290
Anything higher than these cards are way overkill. 60fps is all your monitor can handle unless you have 120hz model. But otherwise, a single 770 will play every game now at ultra detail with playable frames and even more than enough for most games.

 

[cst1992]

4K is too much even for 780Ti to handle. I'd say 1440p/1600p is more appropriate for that card.

 

[RCguitarist]

Ultimately, question is:

Are you going to run multiple monitors? Are you going to be running 1440p or 4k screen resolution?
If yes, then either the 780 or 780ti will be required. if 1400p or tri 1080p monitors then 780 would be fine, if your going to be running 4k monitor, or multiple monitors but still want ultra graphics then get the 780ti.
If no, then don't need anything that expensive.
What graphics settings do you want to play on?
High settings, all you need is a 760 or 270x/280. If ultra, 770 or 280x/290
Anything higher than these cards are way overkill. 60fps is all your monitor can handle unless you have 120hz model. But otherwise, a single 770 will play every game now at ultra detail with playable frames and even more than enough for most games.

Exactly, but one correction, a 760 is perfectly capable of playing everything out on ultra settings at 1080p. My 660 is (never dips below 35-40fps), so the 760 has to be.

 

[trogdor796]

Ultimately, question is:

Are you going to run multiple monitors? Are you going to be running 1440p or 4k screen resolution?
If yes, then either the 780 or 780ti will be required. if 1400p or tri 1080p monitors then 780 would be fine, if your going to be running 4k monitor, or multiple monitors but still want ultra graphics then get the 780ti.
If no, then don't need anything that expensive.
What graphics settings do you want to play on?
High settings, all you need is a 760 or 270x/280. If ultra, 770 or 280x/290
Anything higher than these cards are way overkill. 60fps is all your monitor can handle unless you have 120hz model. But otherwise, a single 770 will play every game now at ultra detail with playable frames and even more than enough for most games.

Exactly, but one correction, a 760 is perfectly capable of playing everything out on ultra settings at 1080p. My 660 is (never dips below 35-40fps), so the 760 has to be.

I wouldn't exactly say that...some people would define perfectly capable as never dropping bellow 60fps. A 760 can do most games at high maybe some ultra at 1080p, but games like Crysis 3 and Metro Last Light on ultra? Not a chance, won't come close to 60fps. So it's a matter of perspective. Everyone should look at benchmarks before they buy anything.

IMO, the GTX 770 is the card to buy if you plan on doing 1080p 60hz gaming. 780 and 780ti are for 120hz, multiple monitors, and 1440p/1600p, and 4k is not really doable yet.

 

[Dblkk]

Ultimately, question is:

Are you going to run multiple monitors? Are you going to be running 1440p or 4k screen resolution?
If yes, then either the 780 or 780ti will be required. if 1400p or tri 1080p monitors then 780 would be fine, if your going to be running 4k monitor, or multiple monitors but still want ultra graphics then get the 780ti.
If no, then don't need anything that expensive.
What graphics settings do you want to play on?
High settings, all you need is a 760 or 270x/280. If ultra, 770 or 280x/290
Anything higher than these cards are way overkill. 60fps is all your monitor can handle unless you have 120hz model. But otherwise, a single 770 will play every game now at ultra detail with playable frames and even more than enough for most games.

Exactly, but one correction, a 760 is perfectly capable of playing everything out on ultra settings at 1080p. My 660 is (never dips below 35-40fps), so the 760 has to be.

I wouldn't exactly say that...some people would define perfectly capable as never dropping bellow 60fps. A 760 can do most games at high maybe some ultra at 1080p, but games like Crysis 3 and Metro Last Light on ultra? Not a chance, won't come close to 60fps. So it's a matter of perspective. Everyone should look at benchmarks before they buy anything.

IMO, the GTX 770 is the card to buy if you plan on doing 1080p 60hz gaming. 780 and 780ti are for 120hz, multiple monitors, and 1440p/1600p, and 4k is not really doable yet.

I agree, for right now mainstream gaming on ultra, 770 is the one to get. No need at all, plus for future proofing aspects, when the time that the 770 is no longer ultra quality, then play at high settings. Plus when its time for that, I can only guess what Maxwell will bring let alone what gpu will be out by the time the 770 is outdated.

As for the 4k, it can push to 4k just fine. Gaming is hit or miss and by no means will a 780ti handle ultra at 4k.

My main point was the fact of overkill. Theres almost no reason to game on anything other than a single good 1080p monitor. The prices are just way to high for more. And 3way monitor setups are nice, but I for one have tried it and its really a pain to game on. Plus, I still just stare at the middle monitor. Dual monitors are nice for video/picture editing when you can use the second screen for a preview.

 

[NLP97]

Ok well I'm currently running a intel i7 4770K, 8 GB Corsair Vengeance RAM, Corsair CX500m PSU, Samsung 840 EVO SSD, WD 1 TB Black and a Dell Ultrasharp U2412M monitor. I want to be able to max out every game and have the card last me roughly 3-4 years through UNI.... and please don't start another debate about me PSU I'm just gonna stick with my 500W

 

[Dblkk]

Ok well I'm currently running a intel i7 4770K, 8 GB Corsair Vengeance RAM, Corsair CX500m PSU, Samsung 840 EVO SSD, WD 1 TB Black and a Dell Ultrasharp U2412M monitor. I want to be able to max out every game and have the card last me roughly 3-4 years through UNI.... and please don't start another debate about me PSU I'm just gonna stick with my 500W

In that case I wouldn't recommend going any higher than the 770. Stay with NVidia not amd as they use more power.

 

[monsta]

I would seriously think about waiting for the 800 series, with 4K gaming starting to take off , I believe the new series will be significantly faster and worth the wait. AMD has really given Nvidia some good competition lately and we are seeing some excellent top end cards coming out and they are head to head with trying to have the fastest card.
Thats just my opinion , but it's what I'm going to do, my GTX 680 is doing the job for now, so I'm going to wait for the 800's.

 

[trogdor796]

I would seriously think about waiting for the 800 series, with 4K gaming starting to take off , I believe the new series will be significantly faster and worth the wait. AMD has really given Nvidia some good competition lately and we are seeing some excellent top end cards coming out and they are head to head with trying to have the fastest card.
Thats just my opinion , but it's what I'm going to do, my GTX 680 is doing the job for now, so I'm going to wait for the 800's.

You and me both man...GTX 680 for life lol.

 

[NLP97]

I would seriously think about waiting for the 800 series, with 4K gaming starting to take off , I believe the new series will be significantly faster and worth the wait. AMD has really given Nvidia some good competition lately and we are seeing some excellent top end cards coming out and they are head to head with trying to have the fastest card.
Thats just my opinion , but it's what I'm going to do, my GTX 680 is doing the job for now, so I'm going to wait for the 800's.

 

[NLP97]

I would seriously think about waiting for the 800 series, with 4K gaming starting to take off , I believe the new series will be significantly faster and worth the wait. AMD has really given Nvidia some good competition lately and we are seeing some excellent top end cards coming out and they are head to head with trying to have the fastest card.
Thats just my opinion , but it's what I'm going to do, my GTX 680 is doing the job for now, so I'm going to wait for the 800's.

When do you think the 800 series will be coming out. And if and when they do come out they will be more expensive, my budget really is the 780 Ti and no further. And I would never change to AMD!! haha.

 

[NLP97]

Will this card last me gaming through uni? and will it be able to play games at a good level in 3-4 years time? And I can't see myself buying a 4K monitor far too expensive and can't see myself buying them in 3-4 years. I'll be sticking with my dell ultrasharp through uni.

 

[trogdor796]

Once 3-4 Years has gone by, you will probably be looking at medium settings to get playable frame rates, and that's being optimistic. Of course, it depends on what kind of games you are trying to play, but that is just my guess based on how my GTX 680 has aged. Nobody can really know for sure.

As for the 800 series, latest rumors are that the high end cards for the 800 series won't be seen until early 2015. On top of that, we don't even know if they will be on 20nm architecture. This is due to TSCM not being able to get it's ******* act together and produce fast enough. I am still hoping for the best, but at this point, I really don't know.

Price wise, usually when new generations come out they replace the price of cards before them, meaning theoretically the 880 should be the same price as the 780. However, this has been changing lately. Nvidia has been releasing cards that appear to be high end due to their naming scheme, like the 680 and 780, but then outdo those with the REAL high end, for example the Titan and the 780ti, respectively. The really high end cards ended up being much more expensive than previous generations were.

So, in the end, we really don't know. Just know that something new is always coming out, don't wait forever. I'm waiting because I already have a GTX 680, and it does almost everything I need it to. I looked, but maybe I missed it. Do you have any kind of GPU now? If not, buy a 780 or 780ti. It's not worth it to go without a gpu waiting for something that is possible 9 months away. Now, if you had a pretty decent GPU now, I'd say wait, but it appears you don't have one.

Since you are gaming at 1920x1200, you really don't need a 780ti. A 780 or 770 even would be fine. However, none of them, even the 780ti, will max games out for 3-4 years.

 

[NLP97]

Once 3-4 Years has gone by, you will probably be looking at medium settings to get playable frame rates, and that's being optimistic. Of course, it depends on what kind of games you are trying to play, but that is just my guess based on how my GTX 680 has aged. Nobody can really know for sure.

As for the 800 series, latest rumors are that the high end cards for the 800 series won't be seen until early 2015. On top of that, we don't even know if they will be on 20nm architecture. This is due to TSCM not being able to get it's ******* act together and produce fast enough. I am still hoping for the best, but at this point, I really don't know.

Price wise, usually when new generations come out they replace the price of cards before them, meaning theoretically the 880 should be the same price as the 780. However, this has been changing lately. Nvidia has been releasing cards that appear to be high end due to their naming scheme, like the 680 and 780, but then outdo those with the REAL high end, for example the Titan and the 780ti, respectively. The really high end cards ended up being much more expensive than previous generations were.

So, in the end, we really don't know. Just know that something new is always coming out, don't wait forever. I'm waiting because I already have a GTX 680, and it does almost everything I need it to. I looked, but maybe I missed it. Do you have any kind of GPU now? If not, buy a 780 or 780ti. It's not worth it to go without a gpu waiting for something that is possible 9 months away. Now, if you had a pretty decent GPU now, I'd say wait, but it appears you don't have one.

Since you are gaming at 1920x1200, you really don't need a 780ti. A 780 or 770 even would bver, non 780ti, will max games out for 3-4 years.

Ok, thanks for the concise reply (not sarcasm, was a good read) did have a fair card, a Gtx 660 Ti but recently sold it to raise some money for my intended 780 Ti. I don't really want to wait too long, when summer comes I'll be gaming, though until then I'm happy running my pc off my onboard DVI port. Hmmmmm
... I think if I needed to upgrade my GPU in order to max out games in the future it shouldn't be too much of a problem as long as the cards are still compatible with current technology..... But did you hint that future cards might not be compatible?

 

[trogdor796]

No, they will be compatible. Since you have a pcie 3.0 motherboard, you won't bottleneck any card for the next few years.

Since you don't have a gpu, it makes zero sense waiting for the 800 series. It will be the very end of 2014 at the earliest before we see a high end 800 series card release. It will probably be more like 2015 Q1. The new cards will also be hard to find for the first month or two if it's anything like previous releases.

So you could get a 770, 780, or 780ti. 770 will run most games at high/ultra right now at 1920x1200p, but will hard time keeping up within the next year or two. 780 will be slightly overkill right now, but will last a bit longer, probably at least 2 years, maybe 2.5-3. A 780ti is really overkill for you, but would last the longest. However, a newer card might bring some game changing technology with it that makes you want to upgrade before the 780ti stops running games at good settings. This isn't likely, and I wouldn't base a purchase off of it. Generally you want to buy as good of a gpu as you can afford.

The best advice I can give is to look at benchmarks of games you want to play, and decide for yourself what card gives you what you want, while taking into consideration each cards price.