[SOLVED] should i sell my I7 CPU to buy new hardware?

[ITNerd84]

Hi All,

I was wondering I have an i7 6700 ( non K ) and think i should sell it to free up some cash and buy a AMD Ryzen 3. its going to be less powerful but i want to free up some cash and put it towards a new CPU, Motherboard and Power supply as i have a HP z240 machine and i think its may be woth doing so i have upgrade opportunity in the future. any advice could be great.

PC specs at the moment;

• i7 6700 CPU
• 16GB 2400mhz RAM
• OEM motherboard + PSU with wierd connector ( 400W)
• M.2 256gb
• 1tb HDD
• R7 350x 4Gb GPU

Future PC;

• Ryzen 3 3200G
• Gigabyte A320m-h motherboard
• 16GB 2400mhz RAM
• M.2 256gb
• 1tb HDD
• integrated vega 8 graphic

-CIT ATV Pro 500W PSU 80+ Bronze

 

[Dark Lord of Tech]

-CIT ATV Pro 500W PSU 80+ Bronze ...Why such a poor quality PSU?

 

[Zizo007]

Also change the CPU to 2700X, its much better than the 3200G and use your old GPU.

If you can't afford the 2700X get the 1600AF which is a 2600X for less, its 85$.

Edit: Its 112$ now so about the 3200G price and much faster:
https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Processo...s_a_1_4?keywords=1600af&qid=1581525064&sr=8-4

 

[King_V]

Also change the CPU to 2700X, its much better than the 3200G and use your old GPU.

If you can't afford the 2700X get the 1600AF which is a 2600X for less, its 85$.

Edit: Its 112$ now so about the 3200G price and much faster.

The 1600AF is actually a slightly slower 2600, not 2600X.


Also, if you happen to live close enough to a MicroCenter that it's worth the drive there, they sometimes have amazing deals on AMD CPUs, and then additional discounts if you combine an AMD CPU with a motherboard. However, those deals are in-store only.

 

[Archaic59]

Hi All,

I was wondering I have an i7 6700 ( non K ) and think i should sell it to free up some cash and buy a AMD Ryzen 3. its going to be less powerful but i want to free up some cash and put it towards a new CPU, Motherboard and Power supply as i have a HP z240 machine and i think its may be woth doing so i have upgrade opportunity in the future. any advice could be great.

PC specs at the moment;

• i7 6700 CPU
• 16GB 2400mhz RAM
• OEM motherboard + PSU with wierd connector ( 400W)
• M.2 256gb
• 1tb HDD
• R7 350x 4Gb GPU

Future PC;

• Ryzen 3 3200G
• Gigabyte A320m-h motherboard
• 16GB 2400mhz RAM
• M.2 256gb
• 1tb HDD
• integrated vega 8 graphic

-CIT ATV Pro 500W PSU 80+ Bronze

A good quality PSU should be able to deliver close to its full rated output on the +12 volt rail. The CIT 500W PSU you listed states it puts out 34 amps on the +12 volt rail making it effectivley a 400 watt PSU and it's low quality to begin with. Not a good choice. If you need a low cost PSU try the Corsair CX 550. It can actually deliver its rated output and comes with a 5 year warranty vs the CIT 2 year.

 

[Zizo007]

The 1600AF is actually a slightly slower 2600, not 2600X.


Also, if you happen to live close enough to a MicroCenter that it's worth the drive there, they sometimes have amazing deals on AMD CPUs, and then additional discounts if you combine an AMD CPU with a motherboard. However, those deals are in-store only.

Doesn't the 1600AF OC to 4.1-4.2Ghz like the 2600X? Ive seen those OCs in Amazon reviews. If those reviews are true, it wouldn't make sense to get the 2600X.

 

[digitalgriffin]

Hi All,

I was wondering I have an i7 6700 ( non K ) and think i should sell it to free up some cash and buy a AMD Ryzen 3. its going to be less powerful but i want to free up some cash and put it towards a new CPU, Motherboard and Power supply as i have a HP z240 machine and i think its may be woth doing so i have upgrade opportunity in the future. any advice could be great.

PC specs at the moment;

• i7 6700 CPU
• 16GB 2400mhz RAM
• OEM motherboard + PSU with wierd connector ( 400W)
• M.2 256gb
• 1tb HDD
• R7 350x 4Gb GPU

Future PC;

• Ryzen 3 3200G
• Gigabyte A320m-h motherboard
• 16GB 2400mhz RAM
• M.2 256gb
• 1tb HDD
• integrated vega 8 graphic

-CIT ATV Pro 500W PSU 80+ Bronze

First off, a Ryzen 3200G is a 4 core 4 thread part. You'll be losing 4 logical processors, AND it will run slower.

And as you are switching architectures, I would do a full reinstall of the OS.

There's no point in this. It's not worth it. You would be lucky to break even on cost.

 

[digitalgriffin]

Doesn't the 1600AF OC to 4.1-4.2Ghz like the 2600X? Ive seen those OCs in Amazon reviews. If those reviews are true, it wouldn't make sense to get the 2600X.

You won't be able to overclock on the A320 architecture. Only B350/B450/X370/X470/X570.

 

[Zizo007]

You won't be able to overclock on the A320 architecture. Only B350/B450/X370/X470/X570.

I know. OP should change to B450 or a used B350 for the same price as the A320.

 

[King_V]

Doesn't the 1600AF OC to 4.1-4.2Ghz like the 2600X? Ive seen those OCs in Amazon reviews. If those reviews are true, it wouldn't make sense to get the 2600X.

No. At least, not on its own. But it doesn't matter if any given 1600AF can overclock to that level or not. It doesn't make it a slower 2600X, it makes it a slower 2600. Whatever the average 1600AF can do, the average 2600 can almost certainly do a bit better.

1600AF: 3.2 base, 3.7 boost (and appears to be 3.6 for multi-core)
2600: 3.4 base, 3.9 boost
2600X: 3.6 base, 4.2 boost

You can't compare OC-ing to stock CPUs and call them the same, though. Some 1600AF processors will OC a lot, some a little, and some not at all. But the same can be said of the 2600 and of the 2600X as well. Once you start talking about OC, you're talking about the silicon lottery.


You're also assuming that the OP wants to go through with overclocking, repeatedly testing stability, etc. And that they want to spend extra or get used equipment in order to do so, as well as possibly risking damage, or shortening the life of their equipment.

Most people don't want to go through the hassle for such little gain.

 

[Zizo007]

Well I am saying this because he seems he can not afford a 2600X given the low specs he is buying. If he can't afford a 2600X then the 1600AF is his best option.
Most Ryzen 2nd Gen can get to 4+Ghz even the lowest models.

 

[King_V]

Well I am saying this because he seems he can not afford a 2600X given the low specs he is buying.

That is unhelpful. Just because he can afford a 1600AF and not, say, a 2600 or 2600X does not make the 1600AF the same as a 2600X.

While the 1600AF is a worthwhile chip, saying it's the same as the 2600X is outright false.

 

[Zizo007]

That is unhelpful. Just because he can afford a 1600AF and not, say, a 2600 or 2600X does not make the 1600AF the same as a 2600X.

While the 1600AF is a worthwhile chip, saying it's the same as the 2600X is outright false.

Most Ryzen 2nd Gen can get to 4+Ghz even the lowest models.

My Ryzen 3 1st Gen got 4Ghz stable.
From reviews all Ryzen 1st gen did achieve at least 3.9Ghz. Ryzen 2 is better at overclocking.

 

[King_V]

Most Ryzen 2nd Gen can get to 4+Ghz even the lowest models.

My Ryzen 3 1st Gen got 4Ghz stable.

So is your Ryzen 3 1st Gen chip the same as a 2600X? Of course not.

Why are you dancing around this and trying to justify it over and over again. You gave false information. Period.

 

[Zizo007]

So is your Ryzen 3 1st Gen chip the same as a 2600X? Of course not.

Why are you dancing around this and trying to justify it over and over again. You gave false information. Period.

From reviews all Ryzen 1st gen samples did achieve at least 3.9Ghz. Ryzen 2000 is better at overclocking. Why pay more for the same performance knowing they both have the same OC potential?

I upgraded from Ryzen 1300X to Ryzen 1800X and they both OC to the same speed, ~4Ghz. I regretted not getting the 1700 for cheaper. Same story for 3700X vs 3800X.
AMD is really not binning Ryzen, they are just adjusting the frequency and sell it for more.

But I do agree with you that if he is not willing to OC AND if he can afford the 2600X then the 2600X makes sense.

 

[King_V]

From reviews all Ryzen 1st gen samples did achieve at least 3.9Ghz.

Documented citations? (NOT videos)

Ryzen 2000 is better at overclocking.

EVERY single Ryzen 2000? A statistical majority? Where's your data?

Why pay more for the same performance knowing they both have the same OC potential?

This is a false statement.

I upgraded from Ryzen 1300X to Ryzen 1800X and they both OC to the same speed, ~4Ghz.

This is a sample size of 2 CPUs, with different numbers of cores and threads, and therefore inconsequential/irrelevant.

 

[Zizo007]

Documented citations? (NOT videos)

EVERY single Ryzen 2000? A statistical majority? Where's your data?


This is a false statement.



This is a sample size of 2 CPUs, with different numbers of cores and threads, and therefore inconsequential/irrelevant.

Again we are both giving opinions to OP.
Why did my 1300X and 1800X both OC to 4Ghz?? Isn't the 1800X higher binned??
Go look Ryzen reviews on google, I am not wasting my time.

 

[Zizo007]

AMD is really not binning Ryzen, they are just adjusting the frequency and sell it for more.

Here Ryzen 1200@4Ghz:
https://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/amd_ryzen_3_1200_and_1300x_review,27.html

Ryzen 2000 will even OC better than 4Ghz so now don't tell me that the 1600AF won't reach 4+Ghz.

You want more reviews? Google website reviews and also look for Amazon user reviews.

 

[Zizo007]

All Amazon users OCing the 1600AF are reaching at least 4Ghz:
https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Processo...&sr=8-2#aw-udpv3-customer-reviews_feature_div

 

[ohio_buckeye]

All Amazon users OCing the 1600AF are reaching at least 4Ghz:
https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Processo...&sr=8-2#aw-udpv3-customer-reviews_feature_div

And this matters why? As was stated multiple times the op may not wish to OC. Also, have you tried to find a 1600AF lately for 85? Good luck. The last time I looked a couple of minutes ago on amazon for example, you are maybe 10 dollars difference vs the 2600. At that get the 2600.

 

[King_V]

I don't want reviews - I want statistical data, large sample sizes.

I want PROOF, not anecdotes. And I don't want FALSE claims. Especially if you're going to be so lazy as to ask me to prove your point for you.


And I certainly now resent the fact that you're moving the goal posts - now you're saying that all 1600AF CPUs will reach 4+GHz, whereas before you were saying they're the SAME as the 2600.

If you want to keep insisting that your opinion is fact, and using a handful of examples as proof, then you SHOULD NOT be giving advice.


This is not a difference of opinion - this is a matter of fact vs belief.

 

[Zizo007]

Again you are giving your opinion.
You can't just say that the 1600AF can't OC the same as a 2600X, that is FALSE.

Its up to the OP to OC and if he can afford a 2600X, I just gave a good suggestion if he is willing to OC and cannot afford a 2600X. Do you have a better suggestion to OP in that case? I would like to hear it to learn from you.

There is no reason to get mad.

 

[Zizo007]

And this matters why? As was stated multiple times the op may not wish to OC. Also, have you tried to find a 1600AF lately for 85? Good luck. The last time I looked a couple of minutes ago on amazon for example, you are maybe 10 dollars difference vs the 2600. At that get the 2600.

Didn't check recent prices, if that's the difference then yeah get the 2600.

Or @ITNerd84 If you'r willing to digg in the used market you can find a Ryzen 1700 8 cores 16 threads for about 100$ on ebay.

The jump in single core speed from 1st to 2nd gen is not as much as the jump from 2nd to 3rd gen.

 

[mdd1963]

I'd be surprised if the 2200G can even match the almost 4 year old 6700 in gaming, frankly...

If jumping to Ryzen, start with either the R5-2600 if on a budget (on sale for as little as $80-$90 at some stores), or, better yet, the R5-3600 should satisfy almost any gamer, offering near 8700K levels of gaming prowess for $180-$190 or so......

 

[Zizo007]

Everyone is arguing and OP hasn't answered since his 1st post lol