Should I upgrade from a Ryzen 5 1600 to an i5 8600k?

[semichaud1]

My system specs:
gpu: gtx 1070 8 gb
cpu: ryzen 5 1600 3.2 ghz
ram: 2 x 8 gb ddr4 2400 mhz in dual channel
ssd: 250 gb
hdd: 1 tb
os: win 10 pro 64 bit
psu: cx750m
pc monitor: Acer K2 K272HULB 27" 2560x1440 connected via displayport 1.2

The main reason for upgrading is that I'm getting microfreezing in games (AC origins, evil within 2, arkham knight, etc.). The game pauses for half a second every time I move the character. I have raised that issue in other forums and no one seems to have it and I think that's because most people are using Intel cpus. So I was thinking of switching to Intel.

According to this site https://turbofuture.com/computers/Best-CPU-Graphics-Card-Combo-for-the-Money, the i5 8600k is the best cpu you can match with a gtx 1070. Any other faster cpu and the gtx 1070 becomes the bottleneck, so it would be a waste of money I think. The problem is that the i5 8600k has 6 cores and only 6 threads. The Ryzen 5 1600 has 6 cores but 12 threads. There's not that much difference also between clock speeds.

However, according to this website http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-8600K-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-1600/3941vs3919, the i5 8600k is 25% faster.

So would it be a good idea to buy an i5 8600k with a new motherboard? I want to switch to Intel as I'm honestly getting tired of AMD and the bad performance, mainly not being able to load game assets fast enough while gaming.

 

[Greeko85]

I personally don't see an 8600k as an upgrade-maybe a sidegrade at best. The real question is why your system is behaving in that way. Its not as simple as "its amd thats why its stuttering" as I myself are running a 1600 with a 1080 and haven't experienced any issues with AC: Origins or arkham knight.

 

[semichaud1]

I personally don't see an 8600k as an upgrade-maybe a sidegrade at best. The real question is why your system is behaving in that way. Its not as simple as "its amd thats why its stuttering" as I myself are running a 1600 with a 1080 and haven't experienced any issues with AC: Origins or arkham knight.

So I've reinstalled the OS twice in the past. I tried comparing between running those games on my ssd and on hdd. Same issue always. I've uninstalled avg antivirus and disabled windows defender real time protection. Also added all game install folders as an exception in defender and also added all folders, including hidden ones, in the C and D drive roots to the exception list. The microfreezing is gone but some games still have them rarely, which I'm thinking is normal. So I guess that solves the microfreezing issue.

So you don't think an i5 8600k is worth it for me? I should stick with my r5 1600? I'm not looking for the highest fps possible in games. Just a microfreezingfree gaming experience.

 

[Rdslw]

My system specs:
gpu: gtx 1070 8 gb
cpu: ryzen 5 1600 3.2 ghz
ram: 2 x 8 gb ddr4 2400 mhz in dual channel
ssd: 250 gb
hdd: 1 tb
os: win 10 pro 64 bit
psu: cx750m

The main reason for upgrading is that I'm getting microfreezing in games (AC origins, evil within 2, arkham knight, etc.). The game pauses for half a second every time I move the character. I have raised that issue in other forums and no one seems to have it and I think that's because most people are using Intel cpus. So I was thinking of switching to Intel.

According to this site https://turbofuture.com/computers/Best-CPU-Graphics-Card-Combo-for-the-Money, the i5 8600k is the best cpu you can match with a gtx 1070. Any other faster cpu and the gtx 1070 becomes the bottleneck, so it would be a waste of money I think. The problem is that the i5 8600k has 6 cores and only 6 threads. The Ryzen 5 1600 has 6 cores but 12 threads. There's not that much difference also between clock speeds.

However, according to this website http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-8600K-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-1600/3941vs3919, the i5 8600k is 25% faster.

So would it be a good idea to buy an i5 8600k with a new motherboard? I want to switch to Intel as I'm honestly getting tired of AMD and the bad performance, mainly not being able to load game assets fast enough while gaming.

I don't think micro-freeze is CPU-related. 90% of times its slow HDD loading textures. AC-origins is MASSIVE game. Would you please check if moving game to SSD will help ?

AMD 1600 cpu very similar in most games to 8600k. its not an upgrade at this point.
https://youtu.be/YPD76F4oY2Q?t=72
there are videos of 1600 being bored while running high settings. Run a game. and check task manager.

 

[Greeko85]

The one thing that comes to mind right away is your ram. Ryzen loves fast ram due to the infinity fabric design-the thing I'm not sure about though is whether or not that would be enough to cause any microstutter issues.

Are you overclocking your cpu? If so please provide specifics. Also keep an eye on your cpu and gpu temps and usage.

 

[semichaud1]

My system specs:
gpu: gtx 1070 8 gb
cpu: ryzen 5 1600 3.2 ghz
ram: 2 x 8 gb ddr4 2400 mhz in dual channel
ssd: 250 gb
hdd: 1 tb
os: win 10 pro 64 bit
psu: cx750m

The main reason for upgrading is that I'm getting microfreezing in games (AC origins, evil within 2, arkham knight, etc.). The game pauses for half a second every time I move the character. I have raised that issue in other forums and no one seems to have it and I think that's because most people are using Intel cpus. So I was thinking of switching to Intel.

According to this site https://turbofuture.com/computers/Best-CPU-Graphics-Card-Combo-for-the-Money, the i5 8600k is the best cpu you can match with a gtx 1070. Any other faster cpu and the gtx 1070 becomes the bottleneck, so it would be a waste of money I think. The problem is that the i5 8600k has 6 cores and only 6 threads. The Ryzen 5 1600 has 6 cores but 12 threads. There's not that much difference also between clock speeds.

However, according to this website http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-8600K-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-1600/3941vs3919, the i5 8600k is 25% faster.

So would it be a good idea to buy an i5 8600k with a new motherboard? I want to switch to Intel as I'm honestly getting tired of AMD and the bad performance, mainly not being able to load game assets fast enough while gaming.

I don't think micro-freeze is CPU-related. 90% of times its slow HDD loading textures. AC-origins is MASSIVE game. Would you please check if moving game to SSD will help ?

AMD 1600 cpu very similar in most games to 8600k. its not an upgrade at this point.
https://youtu.be/YPD76F4oY2Q?t=72
there are videos of 1600 being bored while running high settings. Run a game. and check task manager.

As mentioned previously I've already ran the same games on ssd and hdd and the microfreezing were still happening in exactly the same way. I have now fixed that it seems by adding all game folders and folders in c and d drives to the exception list of windows defender and disabling real time protection.

I don't think there's any necessity for me to buy an i5 8600k then.

 

[semichaud1]

The one thing that comes to mind right away is your ram. Ryzen loves fast ram due to the infinity fabric design-the thing I'm not sure about though is whether or not that would be enough to cause any microstutter issues.

Are you overclocking your cpu? If so please provide specifics. Also keep an eye on your cpu and gpu temps and usage.

No, I never overclock anything. I don't have experience with this and prefer not to change anything from stock unless it's really an issue for performance, such as the power options in windows and nvidia control panel. But anyway, I seem to have fixed the microfreezing issue as mentioned in my other comments.

 

[Greeko85]

Good to see you got it sorted. None the less it would be worth considering overclocking your cpu-the performance difference between 3.2ghz to an easily attainable 3.8ghz is significant. But none the less I'm happy you sorted your issue.

 

[semichaud1]

Good to see you got it sorted. None the less it would be worth considering overclocking your cpu-the performance difference between 3.2ghz to an easily attainable 3.8ghz is significant. But none the less I'm happy you sorted your issue.

So if I overclock that would make it faster or equal to the i5 8600k? I went to my motherboard (Gigabyte AB350M-GAMING 3) bios and there is no option to manually change the clock speeds and all. It's all on auto and it doesn't let me change it, as far as I can see.

Update: I found how to change the clock speed from the bios. It's by pressing the page up and down keys. Nowhere do they mention in the bios that's what you should press. I had to read it on a forum.

 

[Peter Martin]

If it’s working for you don’t over clock anything

All you need is stability don’t listen to these guys. No such thing as free performance

 

[semichaud1]

If it’s working for you don’t over clock anything

All you need is stability don’t listen to these guys. No such thing as free performance

I'm trying 3.8 ghz. If it's unstable I'll put it back on auto (3.2).

 

[Peter Martin]

agree, it's not an upgrade at all.

 

[semichaud1]

agree, it's not an upgrade at all.

Yeah I'm gonna hold off on upgrading for now. Not much point getting any cpu faster than the i5 8600k to pair with my gtx 1070 (or the gtx 1080 as mentioned on some websites) for gaming. Also not much point in getting the i5 8600k over the Ryzen 5 1600. I'll switch to Intel next time I upgrade my graphics card but that will be whenever anything significantly faster than a gtx 1070 is available for at most £400. I want to try Intel for at least a decade, like I tried AMD for a decade.