Should i upgrade from E5500 dual core to core i3 ??

[Cresidiant]

If i upgrade to core i3 3220 from E5500 is it worth the cost?? because Id have to buy a new mother board as well. i have HD 7790 as my Gpu. will upgrading increase my FPS in games?? If so by how much?? This upgrade makes sense or should i wait a couple more months and try to make some more money and get an i5?
lastly does hyper threading tech of I3 help in gaming???

 

[johnvonmacz]

If i upgrade to core i3 3220 from E5500 is it worth the cost?? because Id have to buy a new mother board as well. i have HD 7790 as my Gpu. will upgrading increase my FPS in games?? If so by how much?? This upgrade makes sense or should i wait a couple more months and try to make some more money and get an i5?
lastly does hyper threading tech of I3 help in gaming???

3220 is a Dual core cpu, there's no point in upgrading from E5500. You won't get any drastic difference. And even tho it has Hyperthreading, it doesn't help that much in gaming, if you want an increase of performance, save for an i5

 

[PreferLinux]

It would probably help somewhat. But I would suggest that the difference between the i3 and the i5 will be less than the difference between the E5500 and the i3. However if possible I'd go for the i5. I'm not sure how much you'd gain.

If you're comparing the i3 with hyperthreading to the i5, the i5 is far superior – hyperthreading lets the CPU work on two threads with a single core, making it appear to have twice as many cores. The i3 is a dual core, so it appears to have 4 cores. But the i5 has four real cores, which is much better.

 

[Cresidiant]

If i upgrade to core i3 3220 from E5500 is it worth the cost?? because Id have to buy a new mother board as well. i have HD 7790 as my Gpu. will upgrading increase my FPS in games?? If so by how much?? This upgrade makes sense or should i wait a couple more months and try to make some more money and get an i5?
lastly does hyper threading tech of I3 help in gaming???

3220 is a Dual core cpu, there's no point in upgrading from E5500. You won't get any drastic difference. And even tho it has Hyperthreading, it doesn't help that much in gaming, if you want an increase of performance, save for an i5

Dont you think that E5500 is a bottle neck for HD7790? and this bottleneck will be resolved if i buy core i3 3220? i have read its review and benchmarks. They say its a fairly good processor for gaming. And i will have to wait 5 or 6 months to be able to buy core i 5

 

[johnvonmacz]

If i upgrade to core i3 3220 from E5500 is it worth the cost?? because Id have to buy a new mother board as well. i have HD 7790 as my Gpu. will upgrading increase my FPS in games?? If so by how much?? This upgrade makes sense or should i wait a couple more months and try to make some more money and get an i5?
lastly does hyper threading tech of I3 help in gaming???

3220 is a Dual core cpu, there's no point in upgrading from E5500. You won't get any drastic difference. And even tho it has Hyperthreading, it doesn't help that much in gaming, if you want an increase of performance, save for an i5

Dont you think that E5500 is a bottle neck for HD7790? and this bottleneck will be resolved if i buy core i3 3220? i have read its review and benchmarks. They say its a fairly good processor for gaming. And i will have to wait 5 or 6 months to be able to buy core i 5

What games do you play btw and @ what resolution and how many fps, right now, games are getting more and more intensive. So now here's the thing, if you play games like Battlefield 3, Crysis 3, Far Cry 3 or any other games from 2012-2013 an i5 is the ideal choice because those games works best on quad-cores. Otherwise, get an i3 but I doubt you will see a huge difference going from E5500 to i3 3220. Hope this helps

 

[beanoslim]

Wait, save, go i5 quad.

 

[Cresidiant]

If i upgrade to core i3 3220 from E5500 is it worth the cost?? because Id have to buy a new mother board as well. i have HD 7790 as my Gpu. will upgrading increase my FPS in games?? If so by how much?? This upgrade makes sense or should i wait a couple more months and try to make some more money and get an i5?
lastly does hyper threading tech of I3 help in gaming???

3220 is a Dual core cpu, there's no point in upgrading from E5500. You won't get any drastic difference. And even tho it has Hyperthreading, it doesn't help that much in gaming, if you want an increase of performance, save for an i5

Dont you think that E5500 is a bottle neck for HD7790? and this bottleneck will be resolved if i buy core i3 3220? i have read its review and benchmarks. They say its a fairly good processor for gaming. And i will have to wait 5 or 6 months to be able to buy core i 5

What games do you play btw and @ what resolution and how many fps, right now, games are getting more and more intensive. So now here's the thing, if you play games like Battlefield 3, Crysis 3, Far Cry 3 or any other games from 2012-2013 an i5 is the ideal choice because those games works best on quad-cores. Otherwise, get an i3 but I doubt you will see a huge difference going from E5500 to i3 3220. Hope this helps

Yeah but the benchmarks show a huge difference. And my major concern is the bottleneck caused by the E5500. I play hitman absolution at 1440X 900 . Even at this resolution my rig gives only 20 Fps at ultra settings. I know this is too bad for HD7790. If i buy a core i3 dont you think this bottle neck will go away??

 

[johnvonmacz]

If i upgrade to core i3 3220 from E5500 is it worth the cost?? because Id have to buy a new mother board as well. i have HD 7790 as my Gpu. will upgrading increase my FPS in games?? If so by how much?? This upgrade makes sense or should i wait a couple more months and try to make some more money and get an i5?
lastly does hyper threading tech of I3 help in gaming???

3220 is a Dual core cpu, there's no point in upgrading from E5500. You won't get any drastic difference. And even tho it has Hyperthreading, it doesn't help that much in gaming, if you want an increase of performance, save for an i5

Dont you think that E5500 is a bottle neck for HD7790? and this bottleneck will be resolved if i buy core i3 3220? i have read its review and benchmarks. They say its a fairly good processor for gaming. And i will have to wait 5 or 6 months to be able to buy core i 5

What games do you play btw and @ what resolution and how many fps, right now, games are getting more and more intensive. So now here's the thing, if you play games like Battlefield 3, Crysis 3, Far Cry 3 or any other games from 2012-2013 an i5 is the ideal choice because those games works best on quad-cores. Otherwise, get an i3 but I doubt you will see a huge difference going from E5500 to i3 3220. Hope this helps

Yeah but the benchmarks show a huge difference. And my major concern is the bottleneck caused by the E5500. I play hitman absolution at 1440X 900 . Even at this resolution my rig gives only 20 Fps at ultra settings. I know this is too bad for HD7790. If i buy a core i3 dont you think this bottle neck will go away??

The bottleneck might go away. Anyway, your GPU is not meant to play Hitman Absolution at Ultra, try to lower the Anti Aliasing to 2X and set the Quality to Medium, I play that game too, and Going from Medium to Ultra is not that bad.

 

[8350rocks]

If you're upgrading, then go to a Quad core, otherwise it isn't worth upgrading at all, you'll be leaving a bottleneck for another bottleneck. The days of "you just need a dual core" are gone...

 

[Cresidiant]

If you're upgrading, then go to a Quad core, otherwise it isn't worth upgrading at all, you'll be leaving a bottleneck for another bottleneck. The days of "you just need a dual core" are gone...

Yeah but every body says that the core i3 is a budget Cpu. I dont have enough money to buy core i5 . What should i do? Wait for 6 months to get i5 or build a budget cpu now??

 

[Cresidiant]

If i upgrade to core i3 3220 from E5500 is it worth the cost?? because Id have to buy a new mother board as well. i have HD 7790 as my Gpu. will upgrading increase my FPS in games?? If so by how much?? This upgrade makes sense or should i wait a couple more months and try to make some more money and get an i5?
lastly does hyper threading tech of I3 help in gaming???

3220 is a Dual core cpu, there's no point in upgrading from E5500. You won't get any drastic difference. And even tho it has Hyperthreading, it doesn't help that much in gaming, if you want an increase of performance, save for an i5

Dont you think that E5500 is a bottle neck for HD7790? and this bottleneck will be resolved if i buy core i3 3220? i have read its review and benchmarks. They say its a fairly good processor for gaming. And i will have to wait 5 or 6 months to be able to buy core i 5

What games do you play btw and @ what resolution and how many fps, right now, games are getting more and more intensive. So now here's the thing, if you play games like Battlefield 3, Crysis 3, Far Cry 3 or any other games from 2012-2013 an i5 is the ideal choice because those games works best on quad-cores. Otherwise, get an i3 but I doubt you will see a huge difference going from E5500 to i3 3220. Hope this helps

Yeah but the benchmarks show a huge difference. And my major concern is the bottleneck caused by the E5500. I play hitman absolution at 1440X 900 . Even at this resolution my rig gives only 20 Fps at ultra settings. I know this is too bad for HD7790. If i buy a core i3 dont you think this bottle neck will go away??

The bottleneck might go away. Anyway, your GPU is not meant to play Hitman Absolution at Ultra, try to lower the Anti Aliasing to 2X and set the Quality to Medium, I play that game too, and Going from Medium to Ultra is not that bad.

You are saying that HD7790 cant handle hitman absolution at high settings
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfRlhPS_m9U
here take a look at this video it shows that HD7770 which is a slightly inferior to my card runs hitman at high settings at 1080p.

 

[jaguarskx]

Yeah but the benchmarks show a huge difference. And my major concern is the bottleneck caused by the E5500. I play hitman absolution at 1440X 900 . Even at this resolution my rig gives only 20 Fps at ultra settings. I know this is too bad for HD7790. If i buy a core i3 dont you think this bottle neck will go away??

Hitman Absolution is both CPU and GPU demanding. An upgrade to even an i3 can help improve performance. The below chart has benchmarks of various CPUs with Radeon HD 7970. Naturally, a Radeon HD 7790 will give lower results, but the important thing is to note how that performance increase as the processing power of the CPU increases. The E5800 is not listed in the chart, but I would say that the quad core Athlon II x4 640 would be a near equivalent CPU.

The dual core i3-3220 is #6 on the chart. Not bad for a mere dual core CPU.

http://www.techspot.com/review/608-hitman-absolution-performance-benchmarks/page6.html

 

[8350rocks]

If you're upgrading, then go to a Quad core, otherwise it isn't worth upgrading at all, you'll be leaving a bottleneck for another bottleneck. The days of "you just need a dual core" are gone...

Yeah but every body says that the core i3 is a budget Cpu. I dont have enough money to buy core i5 . What should i do? Wait for 6 months to get i5 or build a budget cpu now??

Then go AMD and get the FX 6350 for the same money...it's a 6 core CPU clocked @ 3.9 GHz.

 

[Cresidiant]

If you're upgrading, then go to a Quad core, otherwise it isn't worth upgrading at all, you'll be leaving a bottleneck for another bottleneck. The days of "you just need a dual core" are gone...

Yeah but every body says that the core i3 is a budget Cpu. I dont have enough money to buy core i5 . What should i do? Wait for 6 months to get i5 or build a budget cpu now??

I live in pakistan . here only intel processors are present NO amd

Then go AMD and get the FX 6350 for the same money...it's a 6 core CPU clocked @ 3.9 GHz.

 

[Cresidiant]

Yeah but the benchmarks show a huge difference. And my major concern is the bottleneck caused by the E5500. I play hitman absolution at 1440X 900 . Even at this resolution my rig gives only 20 Fps at ultra settings. I know this is too bad for HD7790. If i buy a core i3 dont you think this bottle neck will go away??

Hitman Absolution is both CPU and GPU demanding. An upgrade to even an i3 can help improve performance. The below chart has benchmarks of various CPUs with Radeon HD 7970. Naturally, a Radeon HD 7790 will give lower results, but the important thing is to note how that performance increase as the processing power of the CPU increases. The E5800 is not listed in the chart, but I would say that the quad core Athlon II x4 640 would be a near equivalent CPU.

The dual core i3-3220 is #6 on the chart. Not bad for a mere dual core CPU.

http://www.techspot.com/review/608-hitman-absolution-performance-benchmarks/page6.html

See? if i upgrade to core i3 from E5500 or lets say AMD II X4 640 i will have atleast 15+ more fps. so tell me should i upgrade my cpu to core i3??

 

[jaguarskx]

While a dual core i3-3220 does very well in Hitman absolution, it does rank towards the bottom in Crysis 3 which is known to be very CPU dependent. However, most games are not like Crysis 3. Metro Last Light is a pretty demanding game, but the i3-3220 can pretty much hold it's own in that game. So Crysis is an exception, not the rule.

It it better to buy a quad core i5? Sure, but not everyone can afford to do so. Going for an i3 will fine if you are on budget and you do not want to look a potential AMD CPUs within the same price range. Both Crysis 2 and Crysis 3 uses the same basic game, CryEngine 3, however, CryTek purposely tweaked CryEngine 3 to make it very demanding for Crysis 3. Crysis 2 is pretty easy to run with just a dual core CPU. Did Crytek really have to make Crysis 3 a very CPU demanding game? I don't know, I haven't played the game.

http://www.techspot.com/review/642-crysis-3-performance/page6.html

http://www.techspot.com/review/670-metro-last-light-performance/page6.html

 

[jaguarskx]

See? if i upgrade to core i3 from E5500 or lets say AMD II X4 640 i will have atleast 15+ more fps. so tell me should i upgrade my cpu to core i3??

Well, that's assuming you have a Radeon HD 7970, not the HD 7790. You will see an improvement in performance, but I cannot guarantee you will get 15+ FPS.

Going from an Athlon II X4 640 (which is what I believe the E5500 would be equivalent to), to an i3-3220 is roughly a 59% increase in performance (46 FPS vs 29 FPS). I would say that you would probably see around a 59% increase as well with the Radeon HD 7790. So if you are getting 20 FPS playing Hitman Absolution with an e5500, then you can potentially get about 31 FPS when upgrading to the i3-3220; 11 FPS / ~59% increase in performance.

 

[PreferLinux]

I would strongly suggest considering the FX-6300 mentioned above. It will have better performance than the i3, and it should cost less than the i5.

 

[johnvonmacz]

As you can see Asif, the majority of fellow tomshardware members suggested to go the AMD route and get the FX-6300 CPU or save some money and get an i5. But in your area, you only have intel CPU's. I agree with what 8350rocks said earlier "If you're upgrading, then go to a Quad core, otherwise it isn't worth upgrading at all, you'll be leaving a bottleneck for another bottleneck. The days of "you just need a dual core" are gone..."

Just save some money and get an i5, it's totally worth it in the long run. For now, if you're getting low fps because your CPU is bottlenecking the GPU, just try to lower the setting of Hitman to Medium, lower the Anisotrophy to x4 and Anti-Aliasing to 2X or none.

 

[Cresidiant]

As you can see Asif, the majority of fellow tomshardware members suggested to go the AMD route and get the FX-6300 CPU or save some money and get an i5. But in your area, you only have intel CPU's. I agree with what 8350rocks said earlier "If you're upgrading, then go to a Quad core, otherwise it isn't worth upgrading at all, you'll be leaving a bottleneck for another bottleneck. The days of "you just need a dual core" are gone..."

Just save some money and get an i5, it's totally worth it in the long run. For now, if you're getting low fps because your CPU is bottlenecking the GPU, just try to lower the setting of Hitman to Medium, lower the Anisotrophy to x4 and Anti-Aliasing to 2X or none.

Sure I agree with you but im not gonna change my gpu for next 2 years atleast dont you think that the 7790 will bottleneck the Core i5 ? and since core i3 is also a budget cpu and hd7790 is a budget gpu . Both will work fine together??

 

[Cresidiant]

As you can see Asif, the majority of fellow tomshardware members suggested to go the AMD route and get the FX-6300 CPU or save some money and get an i5. But in your area, you only have intel CPU's. I agree with what 8350rocks said earlier "If you're upgrading, then go to a Quad core, otherwise it isn't worth upgrading at all, you'll be leaving a bottleneck for another bottleneck. The days of "you just need a dual core" are gone..."

Just save some money and get an i5, it's totally worth it in the long run. For now, if you're getting low fps because your CPU is bottlenecking the GPU, just try to lower the setting of Hitman to Medium, lower the Anisotrophy to x4 and Anti-Aliasing to 2X or none.

Sure I agree with you but im not gonna change my gpu for next 2 years atleast dont you think that the 7790 will bottleneck the Core i5 ? and since core i3 is also a budget cpu and hd7790 is a budget gpu . Both will work fine together??

Get the i5 I suggested if you want to play games like crysis 3 or any other cpu intensive games. i3 will be playable for sure imo but the i5 will make you feel you have decent deskto power and will make everything you do faster like encoding, gaming and no worry for a few years of cpu requirements for games. The i3 3220 can cope with the 7790 to deliver similar framerates an i5 would with a 7790 but remember the i3 3220 is close to limit on certain games and the i5 in cpu intensive games will pull clear like crysis 3. The i3 HT does help in some games codemaster racing games especially but in some other games it hinders it slightly.

If you want to game now get the i3, you can always get cheap i5 machines from dell outlet or ebay though.

where i live there is no ebay i always have to buy new things. Amd a new core i5 is fairly expensive. And yes i want to game now.

 

[Cresidiant]

What about the dell outlet. Where do you live. What about amd cpus are they available and cheap. i3 games fine with a mid range gpu so you should get away with the i3 in most games as most likely the 7790 will not run any better with an i5 compared to an i3 in the majority of games except maybe a few fps but nothing major.

One thing for sure is compared to the e5500 you have you will notice over double the performance with the i3.

Thank you. Are you sure ill see double improvement? if thats the case Im going for an i3 Since i have only enough money . And i cant wait for 6 more months to game. Thank you all.
And i live in Pakistan

 

[iskra]

I would also say save some money for i5.
But also in the mean time what you can do is buy a good cooler (I would recommend Noctua 12cm one ~$60) for 775/115x and overclock your current CPu to the MAX. It will help you to ease the pain of bottleneck and it will help you to overclock i5 when you buy it later. And it also be quiter)

 

[Kisianik]

What about the dell outlet. Where do you live. What about amd cpus are they available and cheap. i3 games fine with a mid range gpu so you should get away with the i3 in most games as most likely the 7790 will not run any better with an i5 compared to an i3 in the majority of games except maybe a few fps but nothing major.

One thing for sure is compared to the e5500 you have you will notice over double the performance with the i3.

Thank you. Are you sure ill see double improvement? if thats the case Im going for an i3 Since i have only enough money . And i cant wait for 6 more months to game. Thank you all.
And i live in Pakistan

Are you upgrading OEM PC like Dell? If yes, what is the model?

I seen many from Pakistan here with Optiplexes....

 

[Cresidiant]

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/98?vs=677
e5300 compared to i3 3220. e5300 200mhz clocked less then e5500. You can see on cinebench multithreaded the peak performance gain. Also on games thats where the i3 series destroys pentium dual cores or core 2 duos at.

Thanks