Should I upgrade my CPU first?

[David_702]

Hi Folks,
I want to upgrade my gaming PC as newer games are starting to lose frames and cause my rig to get very loud and hot. I'm tempted to just upgrade RAM and my GPU but I'm worried my CPU might cause a bottle neck. Since I'm a pleb when it comes to hardware I'm seeking some advice. I'm looking to spend around 300$. Here are my current specs.

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System Information
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Time of this report: 5/2/2017, 13:39:11
Machine name: DAVIDS-PC
Machine Id: {B0138BF3-EEC0-4FD1-BBBC-12A195F349A4}
Operating System: Windows 10 Home 64-bit (10.0, Build 14393) (14393.rs1_release_sec.170327-1835)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: To Be Filled By O.E.M.
System Model: To Be Filled By O.E.M.
BIOS: BIOS Date: 12/10/13 13:59:52 Ver: 04.06.05
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4670K CPU @ 3.40GHz (4 CPUs), ~3.4GHz
Memory: 8192MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 8122MB RAM
Page File: 3963MB used, 7741MB available
Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
DirectX Version: DirectX 12
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
User DPI Setting: Using System DPI
System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
Miracast: Not Available
Microsoft Graphics Hybrid: Not Supported
DxDiag Version: 10.00.14393.0000 64bit Unicode

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Display Devices
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Card name: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip type: GeForce GTX 780
DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC

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Disk & DVD/CD-ROM Drives
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Drive: C:
Free Space: 27.3 GB
Total Space: 113.7 GB
File System: NTFS
Model: Samsung SSD 840 EVO 120GB

Drive: D:
Free Space: 7.0 GB
Total Space: 953.7 GB
File System: NTFS
Model: WDC WD10EZEX-08M2NA0

Drive: E:
Model: TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-224DB
Driver: c:\windows\system32\drivers\cdrom.sys, 10.00.14393.0000 (English), 7/16/2016 05:41:53, 173056 bytes

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System Devices
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Name: Intel(R) 8 Series/C220 Series SMBus Controller - 8C22
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_8C22&SUBSYS_8C221849&REV_05\3&11583659&0&FB
Driver: n/a

Name: Intel(R) Management Engine Interface
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_8C3A&SUBSYS_8C3A1849&REV_04\3&11583659&0&B0
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\TeeDriverx64.sys, 9.05.0014.1724 (English), 9/3/2013 17:52:14, 99288 bytes
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Driver: C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\DeviceMetadataStore\EN\46a6fdbe-c823-4579-bab6-35f67e01f793.devicemetadata-ms, 9/3/2013 17:52:14, 833 bytes
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Name: Intel(R) 8 Series/C220 Series PCI Express Root Port #3 - 8C14
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_8C14&SUBSYS_8C141849&REV_D5\3&11583659&0&E2
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys, 10.00.14393.0594 (English), 12/13/2016 23:18:10, 335712 bytes

Name: Intel(R) 8 Series/C220 Series PCI Express Root Port #1 - 8C10
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_8C10&SUBSYS_8C101849&REV_D5\3&11583659&0&E0
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys, 10.00.14393.0594 (English), 12/13/2016 23:18:10, 335712 bytes

Name: High Definition Audio Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_8C20&SUBSYS_11511849&REV_05\3&11583659&0&D8
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\hdaudbus.sys, 10.00.14393.0000 (English), 7/16/2016 05:41:52, 83456 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\drmk.sys, 10.00.14393.0000 (English), 7/16/2016 05:41:52, 97280 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\portcls.sys, 10.00.14393.0000 (English), 7/16/2016 05:41:52, 366592 bytes

Name: Standard SATA AHCI Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1B21&DEV_0612&SUBSYS_06121849&REV_01\4&36135B44&0&00E2
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\storahci.sys, 10.00.14393.0953 (English), 3/4/2017 01:08:59, 130912 bytes

Name: Intel(R) 8 Series/C220 Chipset Family SATA AHCI Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_8C02&SUBSYS_8C021849&REV_05\3&11583659&0&FA
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\iaStorA.sys, 12.08.0000.1016 (English), 8/7/2013 15:23:46, 644968 bytes

Name: Intel(R) Xeon(R) processor E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core processor PCI Express x16 Controller - 0C01
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_0C01&SUBSYS_0C011849&REV_06\3&11583659&0&08
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys, 10.00.14393.0594 (English), 12/13/2016 23:18:10, 335712 bytes

Name: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_1004&SUBSYS_07843842&REV_A1\4&63638AD&0&0008

Name: Intel(R) Z87 LPC Controller - 8C44
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_8C44&SUBSYS_8C441849&REV_05\3&11583659&0&F8
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Name: Intel(R) USB 3.0 eXtensible Host Controller - 1.0 (Microsoft)
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_8C31&SUBSYS_8C311849&REV_05\3&11583659&0&A0
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\USBXHCI.SYS, 10.00.14393.0000 (English), 7/16/2016 05:41:55, 381792 bytes

Name: Intel(R) Ethernet Connection I217-V
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_153B&SUBSYS_153B1849&REV_05\3&11583659&0&C8
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\e1i63x64.sys, 12.15.0022.0006 (English), 7/16/2016 05:41:54, 524800 bytes

Name: Intel(R) 8 Series/C220 Series USB EHCI #2 - 8C2D
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_8C2D&SUBSYS_8C2D1849&REV_05\3&11583659&0&D0
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbehci.sys, 10.00.14393.0000 (English), 7/16/2016 05:41:55, 96096 bytes
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Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbhub.sys, 10.00.14393.0000 (English), 7/16/2016 05:41:55, 501088 bytes

Name: High Definition Audio Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0E1A&SUBSYS_07843842&REV_A1\4&63638AD&0&0108
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\hdaudbus.sys, 10.00.14393.0000 (English), 7/16/2016 05:41:52, 83456 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\drmk.sys, 10.00.14393.0000 (English), 7/16/2016 05:41:52, 97280 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\portcls.sys, 10.00.14393.0000 (English), 7/16/2016 05:41:52, 366592 bytes

Name: Intel(R) 4th Gen Core processor DRAM Controller - 0C00
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_0C00&SUBSYS_0C001849&REV_06\3&11583659&0&00
Driver: n/a

Name: Intel(R) 8 Series/C220 Series USB EHCI #1 - 8C26
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_8C26&SUBSYS_8C261849&REV_05\3&11583659&0&E8
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbehci.sys, 10.00.14393.0000 (English), 7/16/2016 05:41:55, 96096 bytes
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Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbhub.sys, 10.00.14393.0000 (English), 7/16/2016 05:41:55, 501088 bytes

 

[Barty1884]

An i5-4670K is still a very solid CPU - so I wouldn't recommend upgrading.

Which games are causing the issue, and at what resolution?

Please post your full spec though - there's not a lot of information in what you've pasted.

Is this a 'pre-built' or custom? Either way, motherboard, RAM (model and speed) and PSU will be useful information.

A 780 is still a strong GPU, so there may be other issues at play here....
GTX 1060's and RX580's would be well within your budget - but I don't feel they offer enough of an upgrade vs a 780 to justify the cost (they would be an improvement in performance though).

 

[DRagor]

Your CPU is still in the game. New GPU and 8 Gb of ram will make it shine again. With your budget I think you should aim at rx 580.

 

[Revolucionar]

Your CPU is still good,I think you should add extra 30 or so bucks and buy GTX 1070 from some less known brand like Zotac.

 

[Themastererr]

CPU is fine.

If you want a nice bump in performance go GTX 1070 or nothing. Anything below it is not worth the money.

 

[David_702]

An i5-4670K is still a very solid CPU - so I wouldn't recommend upgrading.

Which games are causing the issue, and at what resolution?

Please post your full spec though - there's not a lot of information in what you've pasted.

Is this a 'pre-built' or custom? Either way, motherboard, RAM (model and speed) and PSU will be useful information.

A 780 is still a strong GPU, so there may be other issues at play here....
GTX 1060's and RX580's would be well within your budget - but I don't feel they offer enough of an upgrade vs a 780 to justify the cost (they would be an improvement in performance though).

It was a custom build. I run everything at 1080p. Example of some problem games are FF14, H1Z1, Darksouls 3. Here are some more specifics about the build.

ASRock Z87 Extreme4 LGA 1150 Intel Z87 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

EVGA ACX Cooler 03G-P4-2784-KR G-SYNC Support GeForce GTX 780 Superclocked 3GB 384-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 SLI Support Video Card

Antec HCG M Series HCG-620M 620W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply - Intel Haswell Fully Compatible

Intel Core i5-4670K Haswell Quad-Core 3.4 GHz LGA 1150 84W BX80646I54670K Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics

1 x G.SKILL Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-1600C9D-8GAO

 

[Barty1884]

Can you explain exactly what problems you're facing? "Frame drops" alone doesn't give too much information.

Are you monitoring your temps with something like HWMonitor? Or how are you determining the rig is hot?
Can you post some numbers (or a HWMonitor screenshot) showing your temps?

H1Z1 was notoriously poorly optimized..... not sure if they ever fixed that.

Your hardware still sounds more than capable for 1080p Gaming.