[SOLVED] should i upgrade my mobo/cpu

[Azizinum]

hello guys it's been awhile since I've upgraded my MOBO/CPU,should i just get 4790k ,AMD Ryzen or go for 9700k? budget around 600-700$ ,mostly i want to increase my CS:GO fps which is currently averaging on 120fps on 144hz monitor. temps are fine. games are in the 2nd SSD.
current specs:
Operating System
Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
CPU
Intel Core i5 4670 @ 3.40GHz
RAM
16.0GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 799MHz (9-9-9-24)
Motherboard
ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. H87-PRO (SOCKET 1150)
Graphics
ASUS VG278HE (1920x1080@144Hz)
4095MB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 Ti (MSI)
Storage
111GB Samsung SSD 840 EVO 120GB (SSD)
465GB Western Digital WDC WDS500G2B0A-00SM50 (SSD)
930GB Microsoft Storage Space Device (SATA)

 

[richiestang_78]

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HpMww6

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($298.99 @ B&H)
Motherboard: MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard ($114.89 @ B&H)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory ($82.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $496.87
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-03-09 14:08 EDT-0400

Well under your budget. Im not sure what PSU you have but you may want to upgrade it if its on the old side or of a lower quality.

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

Hey there,

Short answer, yes, for better performance, you can get in budget there.

Something like this:
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($298.99 @ B&H)
Motherboard: MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard ($114.89 @ B&H)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory ($82.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $606.86
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-03-09 14:08 EDT-0400

Would be a solid upgrade over what you have. Keep your GPU/SSD's, HDD's and you are good to go for 1080p high hz/fps gaming, or 1440p high settings/60hz

 

[j121]

4790 k is still a very good that beats many of the second gen ryzens.

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HpMww6

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($298.99 @ B&H)
Motherboard: MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard ($114.89 @ B&H)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory ($82.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $496.87
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-03-09 14:08 EDT-0400

Well under your budget. Im not sure what PSU you have but you may want to upgrade it if its on the old side or of a lower quality.

Nice one @richiestang_78 , you literally posted that 5 seconds before I did. Remarkable how close they are.

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

4790 k is still a very good that beats many of the second gen ryzens.

Like which second gen Ryzens? And beats them at what?

 

[j121]

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-4790K-vs-AMD-Ryzen-7-2700/2384vs3957

for editing the ryzen is better but for gaming the i7 4790 k is stronger.

 

[richiestang_78]

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-4790K-vs-AMD-Ryzen-7-2700/2384vs3957

for editing the ryzen is better but for gaming the i7 4790 k is stronger.

The issue is that newer games are increasingly taking advantage or more cores so you have to be careful not to generalize all of gaming. Would games that are more CPU reliant like CSGO do better with a 4790 over a 2600 yeah probably.

However the Ryzen 3rd generation which unless you are on a strict budget is a phenomenal entry level gaming CPU will run circle around the 4790 in every task and game. Same goes with the rest of the 3rd series line of Ryzens.

The only reason I would never recommend an older Intel is simply because people over value old hardware. Just cause you paid 400 dollars for a CPU a few years ago doesnt mean you will get anything close to that. I have a 7700K I plan on upgrading out of and I know if I get between 80-100 USD I would be lucky.

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

The issue is that newer games are increasingly taking advantage or more cores so you have to be careful not to generalize all of gaming. Would games that are more CPU reliant like CSGO do better with a 4790 over a 2600 yeah probably.

However the Ryzen 3rd generation which unless you are on a strict budget is a phenomenal entry level gaming CPU will run circle around the 4790 in every task and game. Same goes with the rest of the 3rd series line of Ryzens.

The only reason I would never recommend an older Intel is simply because people over value old hardware. Just cause you paid 400 dollars for a CPU a few years ago doesnt mean you will get anything close to that. I have a 7700K I plan on upgrading out of and I know if I get between 80-100 USD I would be lucky.

Totally agree with you. Admittedly @j121 , in some games, yes, the 4790k will perform better. And by better I mean purely FPS. Not game experience. As @richiestang_78 mentioned, it's too much of a generalisation. At 1080p you could make your argument, up that to 1440p + and it's a different story. More AAA games are taking advantage of cores and threads. And whilst the 4c/8t 4790k is still relative for sure, it's lost it's luster a bit now.

I'd go a little further on Ryzen 3rd gen (aka Ryzen 5 3600) and for IPC and gaming performance leaves the 4790k in the dust, along with Intel's 9th/10th gen CPU's.

It's not like it was for Intel anymore.

 

[j121]

yeah but the i7 still got 4 core 8 threads . 8 threads still is alot better than just four cores.
of course getting a new third gen ryzen would be the best option for the future im just saying its still a good cpu.

 

[Azizinum]

Thank you guys for the replies ,guess I'll go with the AMD build, always wanted to try AMD guess i'll go for it ;P ,forget to write my PSU is RM corsair i think 650 gota check .

 

[lga1156_ftw]

Hello, im getting 150-300fps (average around 250) in csgo with i7-875k and 980ti. I used to have gtx 780ti before this and going from 780ti to 980ti gave me literally zero fps boost.

There might be something else wrong since your specs are way better with alot lower fps. Im playing on 1920x1080 which is actually higher what competitive players use in csgo.

 

[lga1156_ftw]

And you will not get any significant gains for having more than 4 cores and 8 threads. Csgo is one of those games where people TURN OFF hyperthreading to get more fps. This all depends are you only thinking about this game and other fps like overwatch which dont utilize more than 8 cores/threads well. Or do you want to play games like apex legends which use more cores than 8?

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

yeah but the i7 still got 4 core 8 threads . 8 threads still is alot better than just four cores.
of course getting a new third gen ryzen would be the best option for the future im just saying its still a good cpu.

I agree with you, I did mention that.

And whilst the 4c/8t 4790k is still relative for sure, it's lost it's luster a bit now.