[SOLVED] Should I upgrade my r3 220g to a r5 CPU?

[noahroofian]

So I have just built a new system with a ryzen 3 2200g and am not to impressed with it’s performance. So I wanted to know if It will be worth the extra 50-100$ to upgrade to a ryzen 5 processor as I can still return my 2200g through Amazon.

Is it worth the money? If so which proccesor should I get?

Current specs:
Rx 580
2200g Ryzen 3
2x8 2666 Mhz Ram
Asus B450 mobo
500 gb samsung SSD
500 watt psu

 

[DSzymborski]

I personally would, unless that mystery PSU is garbage, in which case I'd rather spend the $50 to get a decent one.

 

[Shektron]

Not worth the money, no. If you are looking to upgrade the processor, you want at least the R5 2600, or wait for next gen Ryzen, it's apparently mind-blowing(just rumors as of now).

 

[nobspls]

How are you not impressed with the performance?

Because you can't expect that much gain in single core performance no matte which Ryzen you go to, for example see:
https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Ryzen-5-1600-vs-AMD-Ryzen-3-2200G/3919vsm441832

BTW here is my R5 1600 OC-ed to 4.0 Ghz:
http://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/7865794

And here is my R7 1700 OC-ed to 3.8 Ghz
https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/12760336

And you can see that they are all not that different from a 2200G for single core performance, which is what you will feel for regular daily non heavy load, non-multiprocessor, non-multithreaded applicaitons. If you were running heavy work loads like blender, and video compression then it make sense to get more cores, because you can measure that speed up and time reduction by the stopwatch. But going on feel alone.... I'll bet you still won't be impressed.

 

[nobspls]

But having said that, and you can return the 2200G, if you really do not like the 2200G, you should return it while that time window exists, so you can get something you would like, since it sounds like you would gladly deal with that kind of hassle.

BTW you should look to get something like this, the 1700x for $140:
https://www.microcenter.com/product/485473/ryzen-7-1700x-34-ghz-8-core-am4-boxed-processor

Or 1600 for $120:
https://www.microcenter.com/product/478826/ryzen-5-1600-32ghz-6-core-am4-boxed-processor-with-wraith-spire-cooler

 

[noahroofian]

Not worth the money, no. If you are looking to upgrade the processor, you want at least the R5 2600, or wait for next gen Ryzen, it's apparently mind-blowing(just rumors as of now).

Or should I spend the money on an aftermarket cooler so I can maybe overclockn it a bit? I am currently using a stock cooler.

 

[DSzymborski]

Not worth the money, no. If you are looking to upgrade the processor, you want at least the R5 2600, or wait for next gen Ryzen, it's apparently mind-blowing(just rumors as of now).

Or should I spend the money on an aftermarket cooler so I can maybe overclockn it a bit? I am currently using a stock cooler.

A better CPU will tend to get you farther than a better CPU solution on a lesser CPU unless the price differences of the CPUs are enormous.

 

[Shektron]

Not worth the money, no. If you are looking to upgrade the processor, you want at least the R5 2600, or wait for next gen Ryzen, it's apparently mind-blowing(just rumors as of now).

Or should I spend the money on an aftermarket cooler so I can maybe overclockn it a bit? I am currently using a stock cooler.

That's not a good investment, either. Firstly, overclocking doesn't give you as much extra performance as you might think, and secondly, the Ryzen chips won't do much better with an aftermarket cooler compared to the stock cooler, because usually the voltage is what becomes a limitation, not the temperature, with Ryzen.

Like I said, keep saving up and either go with a 2600 or just wait for Ryzen 3000.

 

[nobspls]

The stock cooler that comes with Ryzen is utter garbage though. They are noisy and has an unbearable drone. I replaced those after a week with them. I just reused my old Hyper212s from my old i5 2500k and it is a dramatic difference. It also cools better so the temps edge down and you can go with less voltage increase. But the overclocking will only go so far and only get Ryzen to Haswell level performance (single core, gaming, and non-heavy load)

 

[Shektron]

The stock cooler that comes with Ryzen is utter garbage though. They are noisy and has an unbearable drone. I replaced those after a week with them. I just reused my old Hyper212s from my old i5 2500k and it is a dramatic difference. It also cools better so the temps edge down and you can go with less voltage increase. But the overclocking will only go so far and only get Ryzen to Haswell level performance (single core, gaming, and non-heavy load)

Talk about an unpopular opinion. This is the first time I've seen someone say negatively of the Ryzen stock coolers, pretty much everyone agrees they are very good coolers, do not make much noise, and provide ample cooling for the chips they are paired with, and I agree with them. I use a Ryzen 5 1600 with its stock cooler, and that thing is pretty darn good. They're certainly better than Intel's hunk of metal and plastic that they call a cooler.

 

[nobspls]

Hell it makes a lot of noise. I can hear that annoying drone, it is immediately obvious when your overclock. The 90mm can't spin at less than 1500 rpm like a good 120mm (e.g. the Cougar CF-V12HPB) and stay below 20 db and still keep temps down. I am using my 8 year old cougar fan on my 8 year old hyper212, and you get good quiet cooling. The physics and acoustics is undeniable. Just being better than Intel garbage does not mean it is not still garbage.

 

[Shektron]

Hell it makes a lot of noise. I can hear that annoying drone, it is immediately obvious when your overclock. The 90mm can't spin at less than 1500 rpm like a good 120mm (e.g. the Cougar CF-V12HPB) and stay below 20 db and still keep temps down. I am using my 8 year old cougar fan on my 8 year old hyper212, and you get good quiet cooling. The physics and acoustics is undeniable. Just being better than Intel garbage does not mean it is not still garbage.

Well, each to their own opinion I guess - plus noise is a very subjective thing, your noisy could be my reasonably silent. Either way, I personally don't think it's worth buying an aftermarket cooler for a Ryzen 3.

 

[Franklin_4]

i have a gammax 400 on my ryzen 1400 and its clocked to 3950mhz and its perfectly stable....

@OP, id reccomend waiting til the next gen of ryzen comes out, as others have stated, you wont see a ton of extra performance going from a 2200g to a 2600g, but a 1600 or a 1700 for <$150 is an awesome value and youll see a really big improvement. its sorta a waste to be using that rx580 with a 2200g because the 2200g has a good chunk of its processing capabilities reserved for iGPU, which you arent taking advantage of, so you'd benefit a lot more from a CPU without integrated graphics.

also, i would totally overclock that 2200g while you wait for ryzen 3000 (if thats the route you decide to take). You will see returns with stock cooler, just dont go more than like 50 mhz at time.