Question Should I upgrade rtx 3090ti to 4090?

[Jabad96]

Bought an asus strix lc oc edition 3090ti for $1862.24 Cad after taxes and wondering if I should upgrade to the 4090 for $700-1100+ cad more. Im looking to do 60fps 4K max settings on games.
But I still need to buy new cpu, ram, mobo and cpu cooler. I currently have i7 8700k, asus z370-p mobo, 16gb ram 3200mhz asus led. Even my mobo is bottlenecking gpu with pcie gen 3.0.
If I had to choose between upgrading other parts or going all in gpu and chose to get gpu would it bottleneck the same way as my current setup?

 

[ötzi]

Your CPU can't keep up with the GPU, upgrading the rest of your system will be your best bet

 

[Jabad96]

Your CPU can't keep up with the GPU, upgrading the rest of your system will be your best bet

I think so too thanks.

 

[Jabad96]

should I get the i9 13900ks when it comes or is there something better?

 

[XxDarkMario20xX]

I would upgrade motherboard and CPU and Ram first and play on 3090ti because your GPU is still powerful GPU and you could always upgrade in future when 5090TI or 6090 comes out. Also 4090 is such powerful GPU you would have to upgrade PSU. 13000k is good CPU and with ddr5 ram and 3090ti you got good system!

 

[RodroX]

should I get the i9 13900ks when it comes or is there something better?

Thats something you will find out tomorrow when the first reviews come out, I suggest you don't rush to it.

And before buying anything, be sure to check at least 4 or 5 reviews, including, TomsHardware, GamerNexus, HardwareUnboxed, Anandtech, etc.

Right now AMDs Zen 4 cpus are very good on games, as is the old Zen 3 R7 5800X3D.

At 4K, depending on the game, the CPU may not matter that much (as long as its one of the latest ones). What do I mean with this is that you may spend the money on a 13900K, and then for an RTX 4090, just to find out later that an i5 13600K, R6 7600X, or even the "old" R7 5800X3D may probably give you the same FPS at a lower price. Then again, not knowing what games you wana play I can't tell you much more.

Read and watch as many reviews as you can and then make your choice, even if money is not an issue, you may found out if the platform (motherboard and RAM) does affect CPU performance.

 

[punkncat]

@RodroX , it is important to note that Tom's and Anandtech are both subsidiaries of the same parent group. I don't imagine you will find some compelling difference in their reviews.

 

[Why_Me]

Bought an asus strix lc oc edition 3090ti for $1862.24 Cad after taxes and wondering if I should upgrade to the 4090 for $700-1100+ cad more. Im looking to do 60fps 4K max settings on games.
But I still need to buy new cpu, ram, mobo and cpu cooler. I currently have i7 8700k, asus z370-p mobo, 16gb ram 3200mhz asus led. Even my mobo is bottlenecking gpu with pcie gen 3.0.
If I had to choose between upgrading other parts or going all in gpu and chose to get gpu would it bottleneck the same way as my current setup?

I'd look at an i7 such as the 12700F or 13700KF (13700F won't be released until January).

 

[RodroX]

@RodroX , it is important to note that Tom's and Anandtech are both subsidiaries of the same parent group. I don't imagine you will find some compelling difference in their reviews.

Indeed, but the information is presented in different way, so one could be more appealing to some readers than the other.

 

[Jabad96]

I would upgrade motherboard and CPU and Ram first and play on 3090ti because your GPU is still powerful GPU and you could always upgrade in future when 5090TI or 6090 comes out. Also 4090 is such powerful GPU you would have to upgrade PSU. 13000k is good CPU and with ddr5 ram and 3090ti you got good system!

Wise words, thanks. It started with a dead psu when I realized I needed a pc upgrade! Currently have a Evga 1300w gold got on sale on Amazon.

 

[Jabad96]

I'd look at an i7 such as the 12700F or 13700KF (13700F won't be released until January).

🤔 I’ll have to review the types of intel cpu.

 

[Jabad96]

Thats something you will find out tomorrow when the first reviews come out, I suggest you don't rush to it.

And before buying anything, be sure to check at least 4 or 5 reviews, including, TomsHardware, GamerNexus, HardwareUnboxed, Anandtech, etc.

Right now AMDs Zen 4 cpus are very good on games, as is the old Zen 3 R7 5800X3D.

At 4K, depending on the game, the CPU may not matter that much (as long as its one of the latest ones). What do I mean with this is that you may spend the money on a 13900K, and then for an RTX 4090, just to find out later that an i5 13600K, R6 7600X, or even the "old" R7 5800X3D may probably give you the same FPS at a lower price. Then again, not knowing what games you wana play I can't tell you much more.

Read and watch as many reviews as you can and then make your choice, even if money is not an issue, you may found out if the platform (motherboard and RAM) does affect CPU performance.

Thanks for your response. I think I’ll pass on 4090, I only upgraded to 3090ti because it went on sale. Still got to pay off my school debt 😬. Wasn’t really looking on upgrading pc until the sale. In terms of cpu I’ll stick to intel for now and do a bit of research like you say.

 

[RodroX]

Thanks for your response. I think I’ll pass on 4090, I only upgraded to 3090ti because it went on sale. Still got to pay off my school debt 😬. Wasn’t really looking on upgrading pc until the sale. In terms of cpu I’ll stick to intel for now and do a bit of research like you say.

Nothing wrong with sticking with intel.

As I wrote it all depends on the game, in most games (at 4K) the difference between a last gen Core i5/Ryzen 5 vs a last gen Ryzen 9/ Core 9 is usually 1% or less. But I do not know you specific case.

 

[domjam]

should I get the i9 13900ks when it comes or is there something better?

thats over kill for gaming and a total waste of resources your not going to use. you would be much better of with an i7 or i5 on intel
or 7700x or 7600x on AMD.

 

[HeartOfAdel]

3090 Ti at 4K is pretty much the healthy maximum for 8700K and for 4090 you will need an absolutely new platform.

I think you should leave it as is, it's so good and going to last for a while. Why would you upgrade from 3090 Ti and 8700K if you're lookin for 60 fps at 4K..?

 

[Jabad96]

Nothing wrong with sticking with intel.

As I wrote it all depends on the game, in most games (at 4K) the difference between a last gen Core i5/Ryzen 5 vs a last gen Ryzen 9/ Core 9 is usually 1% or less. But I do not know you specific case.

For my case im only looking to play games 4k 60fps max settings as possible, im not into competitive gaming like cs go 120fps+ etc. since I don’t even have a monitor with higher refresh rate than 60fps. I’ve only been battling for 60fps since I started back in 2013 with a gtx 780. Although it would be nice to reach those frame rates to future proof em.

 

[Jabad96]

I’ve slept on this decision and some how I was able to secure a gigabyte rtx 4090 wind force oc edition for in store purchase and pick up. Is it really worth pay the extra $700 on top of the cost of my rtx 3090ti, should I just go all in with this card and other components or save it for a new card down the line.

 

[Jabad96]

thats over kill for gaming and a total waste of resources your not going to use. you would be much better of with an i7 or i5 on intel
or 7700x or 7600x on AMD.

Oh 😮 I like the sound of that I’d check the price difference between the two i9/i7 if it ain’t that much difference might go with i9 to secure myself for some time down the line.

 

[domjam]

Oh 😮 I like the sound of that I’d check the price difference between the two i9/i7 if it ain’t that much difference might go with i9 to secure myself for some time down the line.

it is a big dif in price and if you just want a cpu for gaming. its a waste of money. i would just go with the i5 13600k and be done with it.

 

[Jabad96]

3090 Ti at 4K is pretty much the healthy maximum for 8700K and for 4090 you will need an absolutely new platform.

I think you should leave it as is, it's so good and going to last for a while. Why would you upgrade from 3090 Ti and 8700K if you're lookin for 60 fps at 4K..?

I have to admit I’ve played a handful of games and they all worked 60fps 4K max settings with current setup. Except occasionally fps dips on Microsoft flight sim 2020, certain areas inside establishments in saint row 2022, here and there fps drop and pick ups in a plague tale requiem 2022. But all in all I feel satisfied but also greedy 😬. Some games needed to keep ray tracing off or low like spider man and Fortnite.

 

[Jabad96]

it is a big dif in price and if you just want a cpu for gaming. its a waste of money. i would just go with the i5 13600k and be done with it.

Thanks I’ll look into it.

 

[RodroX]

I have to admit I’ve played a handful of games and they all worked 60fps 4K max settings with current setup. Except occasionally fps dips on Microsoft flight sim 2020, certain areas inside establishments in saint row 2022, here and there fps drop and pick ups in a plague tale requiem 2022. But all in all I feel satisfied but also greedy 😬. Some games needed to keep ray tracing off or low like spider man and Fortnite.

See there, now you named the games. From the ones I know, I can tell that MSFS 2020, A Plague Tale Requeim and Spiderman should all see improvements from a modern CPU, can not tell you how much since it will depend also on the RAM.
And yeah no need to go full out with a Core i9 or Ryzen 9, a modern Ryzen 7 or Core 7, heck even the Core i5 13600K should be a nice balanced CPU that will be on par with any Ryzen 7/ Core i7. Then again I would check more review since all this products are only 1 week old and things can change with more BIOS and Windows updates, newer drivers, price cuts, etc..