Should I upgrade?

[Bannable]

(Before I start stating information and my problem, here are my pc specs)

Also what I have not put on there is that I have a FreeSync 240hz monitor, which is important to this

As you can see I currently have an RX Vega 64 and thinking about upgrading. I have around $1000, and thinking is about the time, but not sure what others think. If I upgraded, it would either be to a 2080 or the upcoming Radeon VII. Honestly, I am even thinking about saving up some more money for a 2080 ti, thought that would take upwards of 6 months. I want to play the newest titles at the high frame rates for my monitor, which is why I am thinking about upgrading. The 240hz freesync monitor I have right now, I bought only about 1 week ago, meaning I still have a bit of time to return it. This is why I need the communities opinion because I have to make the decision now of switching over to NVIDIA or forever being stuck with AMD (Because of freesync=AMD, gsync=nvidia). So I would appreciate if you guys could give me your opinion knowing my situation, stay with the RX Vega 64, get the Radeon VII, get a 2080 (and exchange my monitor), or wait like 6 months and get a 2080 ti though just be stuck with a gsync monitor on an AMD card until then.

 

[tennis2]

Nvidia will start supporting FreeSync on Jan 15. At this point, it would be foolish to buy a GSync monitor.

Can you honestly tell the difference above 120FPS? You're talking about buying a very expensive GPU to game at 1080p(?). I can't say I'd recommend this upgrade for anyone shy of a professional (paid) gamer.

 

[King_V]

Why do you think you need to upgrade at all?

My thoughts:
- return the 240Hz monitor, the human eye does not work in a way that makes any such refresh rate useful.
- what is your current monitor's resolution and refresh rate?
- why do you feel "it's about the time" to upgrade?

 

[Bannable]

Nvidia will start supporting FreeSync on Jan 15. At this point, it would be foolish to buy a GSync monitor.

Can you honestly tell the difference above 120FPS? You're talking about buying a very expensive GPU to game at 1080p(?). I can't say I'd recommend this upgrade for anyone shy of a professional (paid) gamer.

Personally, I can tell a drastic difference in all FPS up to 240hz. I have had a 90 hz, a 120 hz, 144 hz, 165 hz, and a 240 hz and been able to tell a great difference. I am for sure not returning the monitor though because I got a great deal on it, which makes me feel alot better since nvidia gpus will be supporting FreeSync.

 

[Bannable]

Why do you think you need to upgrade at all?

My thoughts:
- return the 240Hz monitor, the human eye does not work in a way that makes any such refresh rate useful.
- what is your current monitor's resolution and refresh rate?
- why do you feel "it's about the time" to upgrade?

I see what you are saying, but the 240 Hz makes the gaming experience a lot better for me compared to a 165hz monitor. I currently have an Alienware monitor which is 240 Hz, 1080p, 1 ms response time. The reason that I say it´s about the time to upgrade is that I want to be able to play titles such as black ops 4 and Battlefield V with high detail and fps. Also, the reason I am really thinking to transition to Nvidia is that I am getting really pissed at AMD. I don't know what they did, but an update completely destroyed me and my friends FPS in BO4 when outside on some maps, while my Nvidia friends are fine.

 

[King_V]

Are you sure it's the FPS, and not that it's a different monitor that has other differences?

Say, for example, you used the Alienware monitor, and were able to get 240 frames per second consistently on a specific game. If you capped that same monitor at 100, would you be able to tell?

If you had a friend set the max frames at various values, say one time at 240, one time at 120, one time at 160, etc., without telling you, and without having an FPS counter on the screen, would you be able to tell that friend what he'd set the cap at?

 

[Bannable]

Are you sure it's the FPS, and not that it's a different monitor that has other differences?

Say, for example, you used the Alienware monitor, and were able to get 240 frames per second consistently on a specific game. If you capped that same monitor at 100, would you be able to tell?

If you had a friend set the max frames at various values, say one time at 240, one time at 120, one time at 160, etc., without telling you, and without having an FPS counter on the screen, would you be able to tell that friend what he'd set the cap at?

Yeah sorry, I just mixed up some words there. What I am saying is I can tell the difference between pretty much all HZ level monitors when their fps are maxed out. So I would not be able to necessarily tell said person the exact cap that it is at, but I could tell the difference between a 165 Hz and a 240 Hz, or some other comparison. (I have actually done this before with my friends, it is a lot of fun)

 

[tennis2]

I think what King_V is suggesting is to dial in the quality settings on a [offline] game so you're capable of getting 240FPS, then go into your AMD settings and set Frame Rate Target Control to 165FPS/120FPS/90FPS using your current monitor and see what that looks like to you. Getting rid of the monitor/system variability altogether. Just isolating monitor variability, ghosting, backlighting, and panel type/quality can make the same frequency (ie 120FPS) look very different. Then you've got "runt" frames (glitches) and such that come from either the game engine or the rest of the system that can make a big difference. A "perfect" 100FPS (if possible) looks a lot better than a 165FPS average with 30FPS frames sprinkled in all over the place. This is a good read, it's the article that started the game benchmarking revolution.

That brings up another point. If you keep track of the FPS your current GPU is getting you (using FRAPS, AMD Overlay, or similar), then choosing your upgrade becomes much easier. Say you're at 1080p/High = 120fps on a Vega64, that means you need a GPU that's 100% faster than your current card to get to 240fps.

 

[King_V]

Yep, that's what I intended, although tennis2 was clearer about it than I was.