Question should i upgrade?

[packersfan036]

thinking of upgrading from a ryzen 5 2600 to a ryzen 5 3700x, i mostly game and do normal to light stuff in windows, my motherboard is a msi b450 tomahawk, my gpu is a rtx 2070, and 32gb of ram. is the upgrade worth the cost? will i see enough of a improvement to buy the 3700x for $330.00?

 

[WildCard999]

For pretty much gaming I'd hold off, the Ryzen 2600 is still a good CPU that could even handle higher end GPU's at a higher resolution. Personally I'm holding off on upgrading my 2600 until the 4th (and I believe final) gen is released on the AM4 socket in 2020.

 

[InvalidError]

For most games, performance gains won't be much more than the IPC improvement (10-15%) if you aren't GPU-bound much of the time. If you max out your games' details and monitor resolution, you may be GPU-bound most of the time in which case there may be little difference overall.

 

[packersfan036]

For most games, performance gains won't be much more than the IPC improvement (10-15%) if you aren't GPU-bound much of the time. If you max out your games' details and monitor resolution, you may be GPU-bound most of the time in which case there may be little difference overall.

to be honest, i have not noticed any bottle necking etc, my monitor is a dell 27" 1440p 144hz 1ms g-sync panel.

 

[RodroX]

to be honest, i have not noticed any bottle necking etc, my monitor is a dell 27" 1440p 144hz 1ms g-sync panel.

Thats why you didn't notice anything, youre playing at 1440p with a 144hz capable monitor, so as the other replayers wrote most likely your gona be GPU bottleneck first, rather than CPU.

And yes like WildCard999 wrote, if youre not in a hurry I would hold to my 2600 till zen2+ comes out (with some luck it will still be AM4 compatible, no oficial word yet)

cheers

 

[InvalidError]

And yes like WildCard999 wrote, if youre not in a hurry I would hold to my 2600 till zen2+ comes out (with some luck it will still be AM4 compatible, no oficial word yet)

AFAIK, the '+' on first-gen is an anomaly, all other gens are intended to follow each other and the next one will be based on Zen 3 which has allegedly been feature-complete for a while already, which means it should be on its way to test silicon in the near future so the design can be validated-in-silicon and fixed if necessary in time for production next year.

 

[drea.drechsler]

Thats why you didn't notice anything, youre playing at 1440p with a 144hz capable monitor, so as the other replayers wrote most likely your gona be GPU bottleneck first, rather than CPU.

And yes like WildCard999 wrote, if youre not in a hurry I would hold to my 2600 till zen2+ comes out (with some luck it will still be AM4 compatible, no oficial word yet)

cheers

Zen2+? I thought it was going straight to Zen3. And would that make it 3rd generation?

or 4th generation? Was Zen+ really a whole generation?

Oh, the confusion.

 

[packersfan036]

Thats why you didn't notice anything, youre playing at 1440p with a 144hz capable monitor, so as the other replayers wrote most likely your gona be GPU bottleneck first, rather than CPU.

And yes like WildCard999 wrote, if youre not in a hurry I would hold to my 2600 till zen2+ comes out (with some luck it will still be AM4 compatible, no oficial word yet)

cheers

i dont want any bottlenecking going on.

 

[InvalidError]

i dont want any bottlenecking going on.

There ALWAYS is a bottleneck. The real question is whether the bottleneck happens beyond the minimum performance you want.

 

[RodroX]

Ryzen 1000 -> zen
Ryzen 2000 -> zen+
Ryzen 3000 -> zen2
Ryzen 4000 -> either zen2+ or zen3 (since it will be on the same 7nm node, I would not throw away the zen 2+ naming scheme yet)


Note: This only apply to CPU, Ryzen Apus are all a diferent thing

 

[InvalidError]

Ryzen 4000 -> either zen2+ or zen3 (since it will be on the same 7nm node, I would not throw away the zen 2+ naming scheme yet)

According to AMD itself, the Zen 3 design for 7nm+ is complete and there are no more + on the roadmap until at least Zen 5.

Since it takes about two years from starting a large ASIC project to first silicon and Zen 3 is already on its way to silicon while the hypothetical Zen 2+ does not exist anywhere, it wouldn't make sense for AMD to work on Zen 2+ which would get to market several months to a year after Zen 3.

 

[RodroX]

According to AMD itself, the Zen 3 design for 7nm+ is complete and there are no more + on the roadmap until at least Zen 5.

Since it takes about two years from starting a large ASIC project to first silicon and Zen 3 is already on its way to silicon while the hypothetical Zen 2+ does not exist anywhere, it wouldn't make sense for AMD to work on Zen 2+ which would get to market several months to a year after Zen 3.

You are right about that, I admit my error, been really busy at work and I wasnt aware of it.

If the info comes from AMD it sholudn't change and be, like you wrote, zen 3. Unless AMD marketing team do one of their lame moves, cause zen 3 does not meet the expected performance gain over zen 2, and suddenly zen 2+ start to sound more appealing.

Lets hope for the best.