Should I wait for 8th Gen or Buy 7th Gen?

[bolo8]

Hello,

I have Gtx 1070 and old cpu i7 3770k , I'd like to replace my cpu for a newer one was thinking about i5 7600k or should I just wait for the new gen (coffe lake) ??

I also need to switch motherboards I believe because mine is too old with wrong socket for new cpu.

Please give me some suggestions, which motherboard should I choose and should I wait for the new gen?

 

[Shektron]

Monitor configuration?

 

[ganron]

Just wait for the Next Gen Coffeelake and decide if you really want to upgrade your current CPU. Or even consider Ryzen 7 depending on your usage (Gaming,streaming.Video editing).

It just not worth upgrading from Ivy 3770k to Kabylake i5-7600k considering coffee lake is around the corner.

 

[captaincharisma]

since 8th gen (desktop) will have more cores then 7th gen i would wait

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

I wouldn't bother upgrading the CPU. Your 3770k is fine for gaming still. You will see practically zero difference in going to an I5 7600k. Your talking approx 2-4% increase in gaming FPS, and for multithreaded apps the 3770k wins out. It's like a sideways step. Certainly not an upgrade.

You should wait to see what Coffee Lake has to offer.

 

[rolli59]

Both CPU's are tier one gaming CPU's http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/cpu-hierarchy,4312.html and as mentioned above slight increase in game huge loss in multithreaded apps.

 

[feelinfroggy777]

Defiantly wait for 8th gen at least, maybe longer. Considering to jump into a new i5 7600k you would also need a new motherboard and RAM, the high additional cost does not warrant the minimal performance increase.

As for the 8th gen, just wait till we see the performance reviews when it is released and make a decision then. Ryzen has really turned the CPU world upside down and this is very good for consumers. 2018 has the potential to be a very good year to get a new CPU as AMD and Intel will be competing in both price and performance for the first time in a decade.

 

[bolo8]

Defiantly wait for 8th gen at least, maybe longer. Considering to jump into a new i5 7600k you would also need a new motherboard and RAM, the high additional cost does not warrant the minimal performance increase.

As for the 8th gen, just wait till we see the performance reviews when it is released and make a decision then. Ryzen has really turned the CPU world upside down and this is very good for consumers. 2018 has the potential to be a very good year to get a new CPU as AMD and Intel will be competing in both price and performance for the first time in a decade.

Why you guys saying this CPU upgrade would be 2-4%? The hell u speaking about? In games where its CPU heavy like for example Europa Universalis 4, Hearts of Iron 4, Total War games, even Dota 2 the 5 year difference in CPU's technology (not speaking about Hz here) is astronomical, why you guys are saying 2-4% increase?

There are plenty of proofs that it is hell of a upgrade like for example for Cemu (Zelda BOTW) simulator, even if I oc my cpu to 4,5 I cant get such fps as people with stock i5 kaby lake

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

Defiantly wait for 8th gen at least, maybe longer. Considering to jump into a new i5 7600k you would also need a new motherboard and RAM, the high additional cost does not warrant the minimal performance increase.

As for the 8th gen, just wait till we see the performance reviews when it is released and make a decision then. Ryzen has really turned the CPU world upside down and this is very good for consumers. 2018 has the potential to be a very good year to get a new CPU as AMD and Intel will be competing in both price and performance for the first time in a decade.

Why you guys saying this CPU upgrade would be 2-4%? The hell u speaking about? In games where its CPU heavy like for example Europa Universalis 4, Hearts of Iron 4, Total War games, even Dota 2 the 5 year difference in CPU's technology (not speaking about Hz here) is astronomical, why you guys are saying 2-4% increase?

There are plenty of proofs that it is hell of a upgrade like for example for Cemu (Zelda BOTW) simulator, even if I oc my cpu to 4,5 I cant get such fps as people with stock i5 kaby lake

well, firstly you've asked the community. Some of the guys who've taken time to answer your query REALLY know their stuff.

They don't just pull numbers out of their rear ends. They have had similar systems, they know what performance you get from certain hardware. You can discount that information if you wish.

If you purchase and go with the I5 you will be sadly disappointing with the results. I doubt it that any of the other posters will say 'told you so', maybe you'll realize that yourself in your own good time.

As for 'you guys saying 2-4%' increase, all you need to do is a little research, and you will find whats being said is exactly right. But if you choose to believe otherwise, that's your decision

Happy gaming!

 

[feelinfroggy777]

Defiantly wait for 8th gen at least, maybe longer. Considering to jump into a new i5 7600k you would also need a new motherboard and RAM, the high additional cost does not warrant the minimal performance increase.

As for the 8th gen, just wait till we see the performance reviews when it is released and make a decision then. Ryzen has really turned the CPU world upside down and this is very good for consumers. 2018 has the potential to be a very good year to get a new CPU as AMD and Intel will be competing in both price and performance for the first time in a decade.

Why you guys saying this CPU upgrade would be 2-4%? The hell u speaking about? In games where its CPU heavy like for example Europa Universalis 4, Hearts of Iron 4, Total War games, even Dota 2 the 5 year difference in CPU's technology (not speaking about Hz here) is astronomical, why you guys are saying 2-4% increase?

There are plenty of proofs that it is hell of a upgrade like for example for Cemu (Zelda BOTW) simulator, even if I oc my cpu to 4,5 I cant get such fps as people with stock i5 kaby lake

Going from an i7 3770k to an i5 7600k will not make much of a difference. You are trading 4 threads for marginally better IPC. Intel only sees 5-10% improvement per generation since Sandy Bridge. So you are looking at about 15% overall. Couple the 15% IPC increase vs losing the additional threads, there will be little improvement on the average of games. Some games will improve more, some games will improve less or go even go down. Take BF1 for example, the extra threads will make BF1 run much better.

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

BTW Europa Universalis 4 is NOT a cpu heavy game. Thats why for that partciular game the i5 would beat the I7 by a few FPS, because it has a faster single core. Everyone has told you this already. Some games will be marginally faster. Most will be roughly equal, and anything truly CPU dependent will most likely respond better to the higher thread count on the I7.

 

[Rakanyshu]

Everyone already said it, you will just lose money for the same sometimes worst performance if you dont believe us here is a benchmark video showing what everyone here said.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twpqGrd71vs

 

[bolo8]

Defiantly wait for 8th gen at least, maybe longer. Considering to jump into a new i5 7600k you would also need a new motherboard and RAM, the high additional cost does not warrant the minimal performance increase.

As for the 8th gen, just wait till we see the performance reviews when it is released and make a decision then. Ryzen has really turned the CPU world upside down and this is very good for consumers. 2018 has the potential to be a very good year to get a new CPU as AMD and Intel will be competing in both price and performance for the first time in a decade.

Why you guys saying this CPU upgrade would be 2-4%? The hell u speaking about? In games where its CPU heavy like for example Europa Universalis 4, Hearts of Iron 4, Total War games, even Dota 2 the 5 year difference in CPU's technology (not speaking about Hz here) is astronomical, why you guys are saying 2-4% increase?

There are plenty of proofs that it is hell of a upgrade like for example for Cemu (Zelda BOTW) simulator, even if I oc my cpu to 4,5 I cant get such fps as people with stock i5 kaby lake

Going from an i7 3770k to an i5 7600k will not make much of a difference. You are trading 4 threads for marginally better IPC. Intel only sees 5-10% improvement per generation since Sandy Bridge. So you are looking at about 15% overall. Couple the 15% IPC increase vs losing the additional threads, there will be little improvement on the average of games. Some games will improve more, some games will improve less or go even go down. Take BF1 for example, the extra threads will make BF1 run much better.

Ok thank you everybody for responding I really appreciate you taking time and answering in the thread.

And if ill go with i7 7700k would it be better?

 

[bolo8]

Im curious if i7 7700k wouldnt be better choice or its better to wait?

According to this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbGT-u4i3EY

i7 7700k gives huge improvements over i7 3770k..

Btw does anyone know when new generation will be released?

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

yes, the I7 7700k would be a better choice. Out of the box, right now, it's one of the top performing gaming chips. It would be much better upgrade than the I5. Again, though, i'd suggest you wait for Coffee Lake and see what thats like, because either way, your gonna need a new mobo/ram/cpu. If Coffee lake is as good as we expect and has a decent price, you will better off upgrading to Coffee Lake.

 

[bolo8]

yes, the I7 7700k would be a better choice. Out of the box, right now, it's one of the top performing gaming chips. It would be much better upgrade than the I5. Again, though, i'd suggest you wait for Coffee Lake and see what thats like, because either way, your gonna need a new mobo/ram/cpu. If Coffee lake is as good as we expect and has a decent price, you will better off upgrading to Coffee Lake.

Ok thanks mate, and tell me whats the release date for new gen? And the mobo reguired for it (the chip) will be the same right? LGA 1151?

 

[bolo8]

I forgot to say that I play on 1440p monitor if that changes anything..

 

[Phaaze88]

yes, the I7 7700k would be a better choice. Out of the box, right now, it's one of the top performing gaming chips. It would be much better upgrade than the I5. Again, though, i'd suggest you wait for Coffee Lake and see what thats like, because either way, your gonna need a new mobo/ram/cpu. If Coffee lake is as good as we expect and has a decent price, you will better off upgrading to Coffee Lake.

Ok thanks mate, and tell me whats the release date for new gen? And the mobo reguired for it (the chip) will be the same right? LGA 1151?

Expect it to come around October.
Unfortunately, it comes on LGA 1151 V2, 300-series motherboards... same 'ol Intel.
You'd think with the longevity of Ryzen's AM4 socket, Intel would have done something to counter that... but nope.

 

[feelinfroggy777]

The 7700k is a fantastic gaming chip. I have one and I love it. However, I would wait till the 8700k comes out as it will only work on the 300 series chipset. It should be out in a month or two and I would expect you to see a fairly large performance increase due to the additional 2 cores and 4 threads.

 

[SgtScream]

Do yourself a favor and don't upgrade that cpu because you don't need to. You'll essentially be wasting money on a new cpu motherboard memory combo for a few extra FPS. Youtube 3770k vs 7700k and you're going to find the FPS difference to be negligible. If you absolutely must upgrade wait for coffee lake as they are stating a 40% increase in performance over Kaby Lake due to additional cores and multicore performance.