Should I wait for Coffee Lake or buy the RYZEN 7 1700

[HOonix]

Hey there I'm building a PC soon and I wanted to know whether I should wait for Intel's 8th gen processors or buy the RYZEN 7 1700

Thanks

 

[Chugalug_]

No point waiting for Coffee Lake, but unless you're rendering, if you have a high budget an i7 7700k will do you better.
What's the budget for your entire rig and what do you need included in it?

 

[Rexper]

The waiting game won't end. There will always be the question, "Should I wait for the next generation of X?". The newer generation hardware should perform better, however you are waiting for it to be released which is a while.

Unless the next generations are < month away, waiting is unnecessary.

If you are using the PC for heavily threaded programs, go with the Ryzen. If you're using it for lightly threaded programs, which prefer IPC for performance, go with the i7 7700k.

 

[HOonix]

No point waiting for Coffee Lake, but unless you're rendering, if you have a high budget an i7 7700k will do you better.
What's the budget for your entire rig and what do you need included in it?

i7 7700K sucks in live encoding so I'm going for the RYZEN 7 1700.
My budget is $1000, I don't need a GPU and a case because I'm using the GTX 1060 and the NZXT S340 ELITE in my old PC build.
Now here are the specs of the new PC I want to build:
CPU: AMD RYZEN 7 1700
MOBO: GIGABYTE AORUS GAMING K7 X370
RAM : CORSAIR VENGEANCE 16GB DDR4 3000
PSU: EVGA 750W G2
SSD: CRUCIAL MX300 525GB SSD ( I already have a 2TB HDD)

 

[Chugalug_]

get the 1700X.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD RYZEN 7 1700X 3.4GHz 8-Core Processor ($379.89 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($34.89 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG M9a 48.4 CFM CPU Cooler ($19.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($88.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team T-Force / Night Hawk 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($105.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($164.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($29.90 @ Newegg)
Total: $894.40
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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[danielthegreate]

If you go the "waiting" route you will be waiting forever. There will be a Ryzen 2 after coffee lake, GTX 2060, Milk Lake(fictional), etc.
7700k as you already pointed out is for pure gaming preferably with no background tasks running. The online benchmarks are all on a clean install of windows and only the game running. If you stream or record on CPU or basically do anything other than running the game during your gaming, you will need at least 6 cores for that.
R5 1700 would be the sweet spot price/performance and unless you want to game on 200fps or something, it can deliver enough frames per second for any use case.
Your build looks great, I would go for a cheaper motherboard and instead upgrade the 1060 to a 1070, but it works fine as it is too.

 

[HOonix]

get the 1700X.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD RYZEN 7 1700X 3.4GHz 8-Core Processor ($379.89 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($34.89 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG M9a 48.4 CFM CPU Cooler ($19.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($88.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team T-Force / Night Hawk 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($105.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($164.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($29.90 @ Newegg)
Total: $894.40
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-25 01:30 EDT-0400

Well I don't need a cheap B350 MOTHERBOARD because I can increase the BCLK , and as I mentioned I already have a 2TB HDD ( I don't know why you are recommending it still)
I don't think the RYZEN 7 1700X is better than the RYZEN 7 1700 because I can easily Overclock the RYZEN 7 1700 to match the performance of the 1700X.

 

[HOonix]

If you go the "waiting" route you will be waiting forever. There will be a Ryzen 2 after coffee lake, GTX 2060, Milk Lake(fictional), etc.
7700k as you already pointed out is for pure gaming preferably with no background tasks running. The online benchmarks are all on a clean install of windows and only the game running. If you stream or record on CPU or basically do anything other than running the game during your gaming, you will need at least 6 cores for that.
R5 1700 would be the sweet spot price/performance and unless you want to game on 200fps or something, it can deliver enough frames per second for any use case.
Your build looks great, I would go for a cheaper motherboard and instead upgrade the 1060 to a 1070, but it works fine as it is too.

Well I have a 1080p monitor and I use it for gaming, I've heard that the 1060 is the sweetspot for 1080p gaming and I have seen many reviewers telling that the 1070 gives minimal improvement in performance when gaming at 1080p.

 

[danielthegreate]

If you go the "waiting" route you will be waiting forever. There will be a Ryzen 2 after coffee lake, GTX 2060, Milk Lake(fictional), etc.
7700k as you already pointed out is for pure gaming preferably with no background tasks running. The online benchmarks are all on a clean install of windows and only the game running. If you stream or record on CPU or basically do anything other than running the game during your gaming, you will need at least 6 cores for that.
R5 1700 would be the sweet spot price/performance and unless you want to game on 200fps or something, it can deliver enough frames per second for any use case.
Your build looks great, I would go for a cheaper motherboard and instead upgrade the 1060 to a 1070, but it works fine as it is too.

Well I have a 1080p monitor and I use it for gaming, I've heard that the 1060 is the sweetspot for 1080p gaming and I have seen many reviewers telling that the 1070 gives minimal improvement in performance from the gaming perspective.

That would be your choice to make, the 1060 is great for 1080p gaming, you don't really need more for that resolution in 60hz. However, in some recent titles (ghost recon), I have to drop a few settings to keep above 60 fps at all time, and that is with a 1080. The 1070 is roughly 30% faster than the 1060, so it will give you a little bit of headroom so you have fewer dips below 60fps.

 

[HOonix]

If you go the "waiting" route you will be waiting forever. There will be a Ryzen 2 after coffee lake, GTX 2060, Milk Lake(fictional), etc.
7700k as you already pointed out is for pure gaming preferably with no background tasks running. The online benchmarks are all on a clean install of windows and only the game running. If you stream or record on CPU or basically do anything other than running the game during your gaming, you will need at least 6 cores for that.
R5 1700 would be the sweet spot price/performance and unless you want to game on 200fps or something, it can deliver enough frames per second for any use case.
Your build looks great, I would go for a cheaper motherboard and instead upgrade the 1060 to a 1070, but it works fine as it is too.

Well I have a 1080p monitor and I use it for gaming, I've heard that the 1060 is the sweetspot for 1080p gaming and I have seen many reviewers telling that the 1070 gives minimal improvement in performance from the gaming perspective.

That would be your choice to make, the 1060 is great for 1080p gaming, you don't really need more for that resolution in 60hz. However, in some recent titles (ghost recon), I have to drop a few settings to keep above 60 fps at all time, and that is with a 1080. The 1070 is roughly 30% faster than the 1060, so it will give you a little bit of headroom so you have fewer dips below 60fps.

But anyway my budget won't allow me to get the GTX 1070 as the cheapest 1070 is around $400. So getting the cheaper B350 motherboard is of no use.

 

[madmatt30]

You're absolutely right regarding the x versions , I don't think they're worth the money (apart from maybe the 1500x as i has a better cooler than the 1400)

The 1600 is probably the sweet spot price to performance to be fair though.

I'm not seeing x370 boards to be any better at overclocking than a decent b350 though , don't expect big blk overclocks because you won't get them.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($218.98 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock Fatal1ty AB350 Gaming K4 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($102.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Patriot Viper 4 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($117.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial MX300 525GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($146.98 @ Directron)
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Mini Video Card ($339.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $991.92
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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