[SOLVED] Should my PC be running games this poorly?

[silverwoods2]

I build my gaming PC around 5 years ago. I put a lot of money into the original build but I was still in high school so I still went kinda budget. The PC back then was amazing, 300 frames on any games I could think of (BF3 and 4 I think). Pretty intense games. Currently, my PC can barely run Apex Legends. I don't play the game much but I'm using its graphics as an example. All games with intense graphics I can barely get frames on Medium to Low. I'm thinking I may need a factory wipe to solve my issues. Not too sure though.

Here are my specs:

CPU: I5-4570 @3.2 GHz (Quad Core)
RAM: 8GB
OS: Windows 10 Home 64 bit
GPU: GTX 760 2GB
I also have a 1TB HD and a 120GB SSD

Here is the SS of when a game is in the backgound
https://gyazo(dot)com/aadc5368dd11fb8a98843ccb5ae27761

I updated my GPU and CPU drivers yesterday. Said they were current.

Any ideas on why I can't run anything? Outdated?

 

[cryoburner]

Back when the GTX 760 came out, the current generation of consoles hadn't even launched yet. Graphics cards have become faster since then, and games have become more demanding, and as a result, a GTX 760 is pretty much entry level for gaming at this point. At 1080p resolution, you would want a faster graphics card than that to run most recent games at high settings. Even something like a Radeon RX 570, which start at around $130-$140 online in the US, would be able to push significantly higher frame rates at high settings, in some cases nearly double the FPS when performance isn't CPU-limited.

The i5-4570 is still reasonably capable, since per-core performance hasn't improved a whole lot since then, though core counts of mid-range CPUs have increased. Even so, most games still get along fine on a quad-core. And while it's ideal to have more than 8GB of RAM for some newer titles, that amount might still be okay in most games for the time being, even if having 16GB is becoming ideal.

In general, I think that system would benefit most from a graphics card upgrade though. At least something around the performance level of an RX 570, RX 580 or a GTX 1060. Those cards themselves are a couple years old though, and new cards are in the process of launching as well, so it might be worth taking a look at those.

 

[silverwoods2]

Back when the GTX 760 came out, the current generation of consoles hadn't even launched yet. Graphics cards have become faster since then, and games have become more demanding, and as a result, a GTX 760 is pretty much entry level for gaming at this point. At 1080p resolution, you would want a faster graphics card than that to run most recent games at high settings. Even something like a Radeon RX 570, which start at around $130-$140 online in the US, would be able to push significantly higher frame rates at high settings, in some cases nearly double the FPS when performance isn't CPU-limited.

The i5-4570 is still reasonably capable, since per-core performance hasn't improved a whole lot since then, though core counts of mid-range CPUs have increased. Even so, most games still get along fine on a quad-core. And while it's ideal to have more than 8GB of RAM for some newer titles, that amount might still be okay in most games for the time being, even if having 16GB is becoming ideal.

In general, I think that system would benefit most from a graphics card upgrade though. At least something around the performance level of an RX 570, RX 580 or a GTX 1060. Those cards themselves are a couple years old though, and new cards are in the process of launching as well, so it might be worth taking a look at those.

Thank you, I had a feeling it was just time for an upgrade.

Hows this build look? :
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/kDkWq4

 

[cryoburner]

Hows this build look? :
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/kDkWq4

Overall, the build seems good, though don't bother with buying a GTX 1070 new at this point. As I mentioned, a new generation of graphics cards are in the process of getting released, and the supply of GTX 1070s is drying up, leading to poor pricing for that card. Nvidia just launched the (oddly named) GTX 1660 Ti, which offers performance at the same level as a 1070 for considerably less...

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/products/video-card/overall-list/#sort=price&c=438

Or, you can get even more performance, comparable to a 1070 Ti, with the new RTX 2060, which additionally supports some new raytraced lighting effects in certain games (albeit with a big performance hit for those optional effects)...

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/products/video-card/overall-list/#sort=price&c=436

The 1070 doesn't make much sense when you can get more performance for less.

 

[nate101794]

^^^Second and third these guys motions, grab you a more updated gpu and everything else should still work fine.

 

[silverwoods2]

Overall, the build seems good, though don't bother with buying a GTX 1070 new at this point. As I mentioned, a new generation of graphics cards are in the process of getting released, and the supply of GTX 1070s is drying up, leading to poor pricing for that card. Nvidia just launched the (oddly named) GTX 1660 Ti, which offers performance at the same level as a 1070 for considerably less...

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/products/video-card/overall-list/#sort=price&c=438

Or, you can get even more performance, comparable to a 1070 Ti, with the new RTX 2060, which additionally supports some new raytraced lighting effects in certain games (albeit with a big performance hit for those optional effects)...

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/products/video-card/overall-list/#sort=price&c=436

The 1070 doesn't make much sense when you can get more performance for less.

I'm planning on upgrading in about 6 months so hopefully the price on the 2060 drops even more. Thanks a lot for you help man 🙂

 

[McLovinHawaii]

Yes your build is outdated.

Don't go with the 1070 from new. If you can find a used card for about half the price of a new then it's worth considering. The 1660Ti is the better choice for now. As others mention new versions are coming out soon so you'll get much better price in 6 months time. The i5 is a really good processor for the GTX 1080 or the RTX cards but you could easily buy a cheaper i5 8xxx if you want to save money especially if you go for a 1660Ti