Shouls i RMA my 5 hours old card? 7970

[tokitz]

Hey there i had this card for about 1 hour and i played battlefield and then this *** began to happen.

http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/8200/unavngivetry.jpg

It also happens in all toher games, but it happens like 5-10 mins after the game is lunched?

I also installed new ram should i try to put my old ram back in?


PLease help me! :s

It's a XFX Black Edition OC 7970

 

[COLGeek]

Did you use drivers shipped with the 7970 or ones you downloaded from amd.com ?

Also, what make/model of power supply are you using?

 

[tokitz]

I used them from the AMD site, and it's a "combatpower 750W" Dunno what it is?

Edit: It's a Inter-Tech Combat Power CP 750W

 

[tokitz]

Could it be a power problem? Cuz i didn't have any power problems with my old 5870...^^

 

[COLGeek]

Yes, it could be a power issue (or a heat issue as well).

First, I have ZERO confidence in the quality of your power supply. Although rated at 750 watts, I would think that claim is questionable.

I would replace that power supply with a quality one from Seasonic or Corsair.

What are your CPU and GPU temperatures when gaming? Also, are you overclocking anything (CPU, GPU, memory)?

What are the specs for the rest of your system?

 

[tokitz]

No i don't overclock only my cpu wich has been overclocked since i got this pc 2 years back.
And that's OC'ed from 2700MHZ to 3400MHZ

The GPU is Overclocked standard so i don't know if thta counts


8gb of Corsair Vengence ram 1600MHZ
Processor AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 965 Processor, 3400 Mhz,
Motherboard Gigabyte GA-870A-UD3
1 2tb HDD Western Digital (dunno which one
2 150gb HDD Seagate Barracuda 7200 rpm

It's around 60-70Ceclius when it's on load


Edit: I will try to put in my old RAM and see if that helps
Edit Edit: I've now been playing for around 1 hour with my old ram and i de-clocked the card so it runs at the normal rate (This was the OC version) And i use 10% less power on it and it seems to work so far

 

[COLGeek]

I really think that your PSU is at the core of the issue.

 

[tokitz]

So do i but i got it fixed with a little quick fix

 

[Pinhedd]

Yes, it could be a power issue (or a heat issue as well).

First, I have ZERO confidence in the quality of your power supply. Although rated at 750 watts, I would think that claim is questionable.

I would replace that power supply with a quality one from Seasonic or Corsair.

What are your CPU and GPU temperatures when gaming? Also, are you overclocking anything (CPU, GPU, memory)?

What are the specs for the rest of your system?

What this guy said. Power delivery is probably inadequate. That crummy 750 watt PSU probably has about 400 watts on the 12 volt rail and can stably deliver 250 of them. Get a good 750 watt SeaSonic or Corsair (manufactured by SeaSonic) instead.

 

[COLGeek]

So do i but i got it fixed with a little quick fix

By downclocking the GPU, right? That indicates that your PSU is inadequate.

Just keep that in mind. Be a shame to damage a great GPU with a flaky PSU.

Good luck!

 

[djangoringo]

It could be also the overclock from factory that causes that, there's several cards that happen like that.

 

[Sakkura]

What this guy said. Power delivery is probably inadequate. That crummy 750 watt PSU probably has about 400 watts on the 12 volt rail and can stably deliver 250 of them. Get a good 750 watt SeaSonic or Corsair (manufactured by SeaSonic) instead.

No need for 750W, 550W would be enough. And XFX and Antec are just as good as Seasonic and Corsair (all XFX PSUs are made by Seasonic AFAIK, not all Corsairs are).

 

[ern88]

Ya, don't buy a rosewill PSU. They are junk. Fired a couple of buddies system.

 

[djangoringo]

Rosewill is not junk, the capstone, hive,fortess and green are good psus.

 

[ern88]

Rosewill is not junk, the capstone, hive,fortess and green are good psus.

I wouldn't buy one!!!

 

[djangoringo]

Rosewill Fortress* and the others i mention are good ones, see the reviews on hardware secrets, anadtech, Jonnyguru, etc.
But for the op, since it's a european psu that he got(in the description), the best will be a xfx or corsair.

 

[doubletake]

I wouldn't buy one!!!

I guess you also wouldn't buy from other companies that use the same OEMs that Rosewill does....logic :\

 

[ern88]

I guess you also wouldn't buy from other companies that use the same OEMs that Rosewill does....logic :\

I don't care if a companies uses Rosewill, I build my own PC!!!

 

[bigtalon]

Just get this PSU:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371016

Only $64.99 and will run your computer nicely,

Or this Corsair 600w PSU for $69.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139028


Your problems will soon be solved


"I had a similar problem after upgrading and my 450w was just slightly underpowered and couldn't carry the load"

Mind you running with to less of power, is a great risk to your other components, Its not wise to do this. You can always take off fans if your not overheating, or reduce the overclocking of your items, but the best solution is to upgrade the PSU to one that can handle your load

 

[doubletake]

I don't care if a companies uses Rosewill, I build my own PC!!!

Try comprehending when you read please. In case you didn't know, Most companies that sell PSUs DON'T make them themselves, they buy them from an OEM such as Seasonic. That's what I meant, since you say you wouldn't buy any of Rosewill's quality PSUs, I assume you will also maintain integrity by avoiding other company's quality PSUs that are made by the same OEMs.

 

[bigtalon]

Try comprehending when you read please. In case you didn't know, Most companies that sell PSUs DON'T make them themselves, they buy them from an OEM such as Seasonic. That's what I meant, since you say you wouldn't buy any of Rosewill's quality PSUs, I assume you will also maintain integrity by avoiding other company's quality PSUs that are made by the same OEMs.

Rosewill as known to explode and fry computers, Last I knew they have only had 1 successful model, the rest are cheap pieces of junk, Where do you get quality at ?

"http://www.overclock.net/t/1155099/are-rosewill-power-supplies-really-that-terrible"

"http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/272639-28-hate-rosewill-psus"



Just 2 little posts all about rosewill psu's and how bad they are


But to point this out:

Rosewill PSU's OEM is SuperFlower
SuperFlow PSU's are made by FSP...

 

[ern88]

I speak from experience that's all. Buy what you want. No skin off me!!!

 

[Pinhedd]

No need for 750W, 550W would be enough. And XFX and Antec are just as good as Seasonic and Corsair (all XFX PSUs are made by Seasonic AFAIK, not all Corsairs are).

Not necessarily.

550 watts is pushing it for a 7970. If we assume that a good 550 watt PSU has at least 450 watts on the 12 volt rail we can break it down as follows:

250 watts for an overclocked 7970 (XFX Black Edition according to the OP)

75-150 watts for a stock CPU, but 100-200 watts for an overclocked CPU (inclusive)

Up to 10 watts for the PCH

Up to 20 watts for the memory

10 watts per platter hard drive

1 watt per SSD

4 watts per case fan (120mm)

Even a modest gaming PC will blow past 450 watts DC when equipped with a factory overclocked GPU and modest gaming CPU. My PC alone draws over 700 watts under Furmark conditions and up to 900 when mining bitcoins.

 

[tokitz]

Well now i got myself i new problem... I got it working, for some hours but now wheni boot on my pc it works for 5 mins, turns the fans up and freezes the computer 1 min later screen go black adn then nothing happens, but when i open up the computer in Safemode nothing happens, i have tried toreinstall the drivers. It all heppened when i was using MSI Afterburner i was trying to find out some settings but then i accedentaly put the ram under 900MHz and then the problem started? I don't know if that could be the problem in this case? I've recovered my system from before i even had the card and deleted afterburner. I don't i what to do now? Should i RMA? Because i'm not the only one with this problem?

 

[weaselman]

Ern88 Makes a good point, I have no doubt like me, for the sake of say £80 or more for a good know PSU branded and trusted what is £80+, Would you cry if the cheap Psu took for example a £300 graphics card out, and a motherboard of £100, people say this because more than often they made the mistake and lost a lot more due to a cheap psu popping.
Learned this lesson, and say it from personal experience. Again I learned this and it cost me far more to replace what a cheap Psu took out later. Think of it that way.