Shuttle XPC SB75G2

[perazite]

I wanna build a new gaming system with the Shuttle XPC SB75G2. I also wanna put either a FX6800GT or Ultra, but I heared they are very power hungry. Does anyone know if the Shuttle XPC SB75G2 can handle the grafik card and all my other peripheral too??? I'd appreciate any help

 

[poly4life]

If you plan on installing that monster DOOM III slayer (not quite) in your shuttle, expect a lot of work. I don't know of any SFF PSU that can handle that card. I've seen 300-350 W SFF PSUs, at most; that's it. And considering the lack of air flow in those cases compared to mid- and mini-towers, it can get really hot. Your best bet is to figure out a way to attach a power brick to the card or convert a power supply beefy enough to connect to your SFF case.

Good luck

 

[perazite]

thx a lot poly4life for ur help. Well, doesnt look that good with building a xtreme mini gaming system How about the FX5900 ultra? Would that one be ok since it is'nt that power hungry than the FX6800GT/Ultra? I think Falcon Northwest's Fragbox has a 520 watt psu and are offering it with a FX6800ultra. Damn bastards Since I really dont wanna fidle around with the psu, i think i have to stick with my current desktop gaming system or have a less powerfull mini-pc for gaming.

If anyone has any suggestions or comments please lemme know,
thx

 

[poly4life]

Hmm, well, if Falcon Northwest is offering a 520 SFF PSU in their gaming rig, then that should be more than enough power to handle any video card. the 5900 ultra, depending on what your running, you could get away with a 300 Watter on that one. Maybe even a 250, but that would be pushin' it considering what kind of rig I think you want.

Good luck.

 

[perazite]

I think I wait a while and see maybe those mini-pc become more popular and Shuttle will eventually start making them 500 watters for us gaming freaks. I think if Shuttle would do that, Falcon Northwest will have to compete to stay top. But for now Falcon Northwest took the front lead on that part.

Thx poly4life

 

[perazite]

OK EVERYONE LISTEN UP!!! THE FX6800 GT WILL FIT AND WORK INSIDE THE Shuttle XPC SB75G2 WITH STANDARD PSU. Just make sure to get the v2 of the SB75G2 cause it comes with a 250 watt psu instead of 200 watts. Also, the v2 is Prescott ready since the Prescott Cpu uses more power than the Northwood.

Here is the link to the thread with a pic of the 6800GT in a SB75G2:

http://forums.sudhian.com/messageview.cfm?catid=43&threadid=60508&FTVAR_MSGDBTABLE=

 

[poly4life]

I dunno, I need to see some REAL tests to believe this one. Running a power draining prescott and 6800 package is taking a risk in SFF PC's. If you use a standard ATX PSU with enough juice, sure, it could do the job. Sorry, until I see some benchmarks that indicate temperature readings with a 250 SFF PSU, I can't recommend that setup. It it just asking for trouble.

 

[perazite]

This one guy there actually measured the power consumption:
"The system maxed draws about 227watts of power. I can leave it on 24/7 nice and stable." "I run prime 95 and the HDR light demo. Can't get much more abusive than that. Using a 'kill-a-watt' measuring device, it plugs into the wall, and you plug the shuttle into it. It measured max wattage draw. Slightly less draw while playing FC or D3, about 223w vs. HDR + Prime95 @ 227w."

check out the thread @ http://forums.sudhian.com/messageview.cfm?catid=43&threadid=62917&FTVAR_MSGDBTABLE=

maybe there is more infos and benchmarks on that site, but havent read all of it yet

 

[perazite]

hey poly4life, I found this article on the web with actual benchmarks about a 6800 "Ultra" in a Shuttle xpc.

Here's the link:
http://www.thephonebot.com/shuttle/index.htm

 

[poly4life]

Hmm, it seems they managed to get this to run. But just because this configuration runs, doesn't mean you can take a quality 250 SFF PSU and expect it to work in any SFF case. Maximum PC, for example, had a very similar configuration - prescott 3.4 and 6800 ultra - and the SFF crapped out. I still don't recommend it and probably wouldn't do it myself. Did they do a long-term test for this SFF mini-PC? I'd like to hear what other people think about this configuration, though. Just don't expect it work in all cases.

 

[poly4life]

Hmm, it seems they managed to get this to run. But just because this configuration runs, doesn't mean you can take a quality 250 SFF PSU and expect it to work in any SFF case. Maximum PC, for example, had a very similar configuration - prescott 3.4 and 6800 ultra - and the SFF crapped out. I still don't recommend it and probably wouldn't do it myself. Did they do a long-term test for this SFF mini-PC? I'd like to hear what other people think about this configuration, though. Just don't expect it work in all cases (as in situations, not necessairly enclosures).

 

[Crashman]

I'd just get a Micro ATX slim tower, preferably with a handle so I can carry it like a briefcase. As opposed to the cubes, which bang against your leg because they're so wide, like carrying a gallon of milk.

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[perazite]

I dont think they did a long-term test for this SFF mini-PC. Maybe in a few weeks we can see if anyones Shuttle xpc is still working

Anyone else got any opinions,comments,experiences on that matter?

 

[poly4life]

Apparently, the final version of the nv40 chipset (used in the GT and ultra 6800 class) has been tweaked, specifically the BIOS and the actual hardware itself. Nvidia has lowered the power requirements to 380W, or 100W down from 480W. That means if you own a generic 380W PSU and a 6800 ultra, it certainly possible that both can be used in tandem. Also, I remember reading somewhere that they removed the power connector from the card on PCIe versions of the card, suggesting that the card consumes less than 75W. Anyway, all of this should explain why a 250W quality SFF PSU MAY (and I strongly emphasize the word "MAY") be able to work in tandem with an 6800 class Nvidia card.

 

[Stratos]

I've been hearing that people are successfully installing the 6800 into their shuttles. Am looking into getting a SB75G2 myself, contemplating between getting it or the new AMD64 Shuttle XPC SN95G5. :/

 

[Crashman]

Hehe, go ahead, build it, then when you fry the power supply or the card build a real computer. My Micro ATX case takes up less space on the desk, but then again it's not fad-worthy.

Using an SFF for gaming is like wearing bell-bottoms on a bicyle. It might not work, but at least SOME people will think you're cool.

Reminds me of my kids wearing open coats walking to school in February because zipping up or riding bus were both considered uncool.

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