Question Silverstone Milo 11 HTPC case. A whole lot of -meh

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I had previously purchased the Grandia "HTPC" case and like it. I had a need for a smaller case than that and figured this would be a good choice when considering how the other has impressed me.

First off, super simple to build in. Nothing at all to do in relation cable management, pretty much just lays in there in front of the power supply. Unlike the other case this one does have sharp edges inside and I cut both my hands several times while trying to roll up and tie down some of the wiring. The case itself has nothing by way of anchor points to zip tie and so forth. They include (2) sticky tab plastic wire holders, a couple of zip ties, and a screw bag that I have no idea what some of the little screws would be for. No fan mount screws at all, in spite of the two places the case has available for an 80mm fan.

One of the mount locations for a fan are on the front behind the plastic facia. There is almost non-existent venting there, starving that location of proper air flow. The other is on the side where the vent is. I suspect that location would work better for cooling but like many other cases will probably have to remove the dust filter. This side panel and the top have screen filters. With that said, air flow in the case is nearly an afterthought with those screens in place. It would not seem that this case could deal with any manner of mid to powerful equipment inside, more on that in a bit.

One of the main detractors IMO is the top vent and the drive tray located below it. In order to get even a hope of air exchange it is best to take the top filter out, side one too, really. The drive tray is plain jane silver and looks pretty terrible when looking down into the case. Really could have taken a second to paint that black, it would have helped a lot. I may do it myself. The tray has a spot for a slim optical drive OR a 3.5" HDD. Not both. There are two places where a 2.5" drive can be installed to the rear of that tray and under the front side.

Watch very closely about your power supplies cable length. The same could be said about fan cabling and particularly in relation to where the headers are on your motherboard. Running power and SATA up to that drive tray puts the cabling right across the CPU cooler. Watch very closely that the fan doesn't catch it and as well take care if you decide to try and put a zip tie there to lift it away from the fan as this can cause issue with wire length and actually being able to flip this tray in/out (for access). I had issue with the PSU I used having SATA power just barely too short and one connector is unusable without an extension. On the mobo I am currently using the fan header won't allow the fan wire to go to the side vent without running directly over the graphics card.

In this particular build I currently have a Celeron G3900 on a thin stock fan and a half height GTX 750ti. Neither of those are particularly power hungry or loud. I utilized an extra Dell TFX power supply that I had on hand. The proposed use case for this system is going to basically be a video streaming box for a "dumb" TV. With the filters in place the interior just continues to climb in temperature until the GPU hits 80* and heat soaks the rest of the equipment. Due to the layout the PSU is basically the only active cooling pulling air from the inside of the case. In past experience it is no good for a power supply to be trying to cool itself by pulling the system's hot air through. Even when I took the filters out and added a fan it basically didn't change anything aside from noise levels.

The case is good looking, it is easy to build in if you don't care about wire management. It would be a very good selection for a super low powered system as a kiosk and may work out as a streaming box. It would be very difficult for me to recommend this particular hardware over some of the larger cases Silverstone offers unless you simply didn't have room. The sharp edges are a huge detractor from the quality I am used to seeing from Silverstone and that prominent tray should also have been painted.
 
I think most of the slim cases that can house MATX are using old tooling. I was looking at them when debating between putting together my own router box or ordering a router box from china and ran into lots of issues. The problems you speak about here largely mirror what I was expecting when examining the design. InWin actually has a pretty wide range of options here many that come with TFX/Flex ATX PSUs. I wish I could remember which one I'd found, but I cleared the wishlist when I opted to just buy a passive box.

Interesting insights though and I wish that there was more industry push to design these types of cases better.
 
I am a big fan of the InWin Chopin cases for an even smaller build. The original design has been retouched with this thick outer 'wrap' of sorts and think they call it the "Max" now. Biggest issue with those aside from the same type of wiring/layout issues are the super low output PSU included with those and really no hope of putting in a dGPU of much consequence.

Sitting here looking into the Milo, I ended removing both the screen and the side filter, moved the fan over to the side and there is a very minor improvement in GPU temp at the cost of CPU temp. I found that the fan wire was small enough to run in that small hole backside of the GPU where the HD Audio connector commonly runs. I am running the Heaven benchmark on it, which is totally overkill for the duty cycle this will see. It is staying pretty stable and capping at 60FPS has both the graphics and CPU holding at a very similar ~60* and reporting less than 40W use for both devices. I am not sure of what the wall power is ATM since I have other hardware running on that same backup unit.

In relation to case manufacturers, I have been very impressed with InWin on the budget side, and another that has really upped their game is DIYPC. I recall the first DIY case I purchased having the robust feel of a disposable turkey pan.
 
I am a big fan of the InWin Chopin cases for an even smaller build. The original design has been retouched with this thick outer 'wrap' of sorts and think they call it the "Max" now. Biggest issue with those aside from the same type of wiring/layout issues are the super low output PSU included with those and really no hope of putting in a dGPU of much consequence.
Got home where it's easier to check and I think I was looking at the CJ series and yeah the PSU doesn't have any PCIe connectors so only slot power. It's only their bigger ones that actually have a PCIe power connector, but I was only going to need to power NICs so that was never really a concern. MATX was needed for multiple NICs so that's how I ended up going down that rabbit hole and being disappointed that pretty much everyone's small offerings (unless you went custom) hadn't evolved much. Now on the ITX side of things that's a whole other story as there seems to be a case for pretty much everything there.
 
This is strange. Not sure what to think about this.

I had ordered an i5 6600 for this as a used CPU only, no cooler. I took out the Celeron (which had good contact, nice even spread of paste) and installed the i5 with the same cooler, thin i3 type model and had concern about temps. Instead of raising temps, it appears to have lowered them. I am initially seeing the graphics card ~10*C lower and the CPU is roughly 5-10*C cooler according to the scene on Heaven.

Not at all what I expected. Same paste (Arctic Silver) and a too small cooler. Really not sure anything taller will fit anyway. This is oddly vexing.
 
How very NH-L9i of them. It states that you can buy from Amazon but there are only fanless cases on there for now. Since it is a new product it may not have made it out to distro yet. I wonder what the price point would be? If it comes in anything South of $35 and performs like it looks like it might it would be a great budget option.