Skylake + Windows 7, DVD installation

[foukal]

Hello.
I'm planning to build new low-budget rig with Windows 7 on it, 64-bit of course.
I don't want Windows 10 just yet from personal reasons.

Now, I was browsing all over the internet and there's tons of threads about missing USB drivers and problem with 'A required CD/DVD drive device driver missing' and non rensponsive keyboard and mouse and basically problem with specific motherboards during installation of Win 7 on Skylake CPUs.

I surely want to avoid that this situation.
So I just want to ask if this problem is still current and if so, what to do to prevent that?

CPU: Intel Pentium G4400
Motherboard: ASUS PRIME B250M-A
OS: Windows 7 64-bit, DVD disc

Will I have any problem with this setup during installation?
I have read some solutions like:
- Downloading usb drivers or basically some utilities
- Install Win 7 from DVD while your keyboard and mouse plugged in PS2 port (which would be ideal because that motherboard - Asus have PS2 ports)

So basically, I want to know if I should be ready for these complications, what's the current status of this situation?
Thank you.

 

[smorizio]

the issue is windows 7 dvd is missing the chipset drivers for the newer mb. use a program like 7lite if it still out there to try and install the windows 10 chipset drivers for those mb into a new windows 7 iso. if you dont have the funds for windows 10 right now look at there windows insider program be a tester till you have the funds for a full version oem code.

 

[mazboy]

The major question here is whether that is a retail version of Win7 on that disc you have, or if it is an install disk for some other system. If it is the former, you're all set to go, and you shouldn't have any problems. If it's the latter, it probably won't work at all.

Go here for the latest .iso for Win7: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows7 You will need a valid License Key to do this. What you will be downloading is a .iso file, so you will need a program like rufus.exe (http://rufus.akeo.ie/) to burn it onto a CD, DVD, or a USB drive (here's how: https://www.techrepublic.com/article/pro-tip-use-rufus-to-create-a-bootable-usb-drive-to-install-almost-any-os/).

After that, it's just like doing any clean install of an OS

 

[foukal]

The major question here is whether that is a retail version of Win7 on that disc you have, or if it is an install disk for some other system. If it is the former, you're all set to go, and you shouldn't have any problems. If it's the latter, it probably won't work at all.

Go here for the latest .iso for Win7: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows7 You will need a valid License Key to do this. What you will be downloading is a .iso file, so you will need a program like rufus.exe (http://rufus.akeo.ie/) to burn it onto a CD, DVD, or a USB drive (here's how: https://www.techrepublic.com/article/pro-tip-use-rufus-to-create-a-bootable-usb-drive-to-install-almost-any-os/).

After that, it's just like doing any clean install of an OS

I am not much sure about this, I suppose it is retail version.
It says OEM version with key plus with certificate but it also says it's resale which has been already used.
So in that case should I go with classic installation?
Will I have option to download iso file after dvd installation would fail at some point?
Does the key will still be valid if I try to download it despite I might have entered it already? I really don't know in what step you are prompted to enter your code but I assume at very beginning.

 

[mazboy]

You're going to have trouble because Microsoft doesn't acknowledge OEM License Keys: they will send you back to the manufacturer to get a copy of Win7, and frankly, the OEMs don't cooperate worth a darn.

You can always try to install the OS onto your new build using the CD/DVD that you have. It could get you up and running enough that you'd be able to connect to Microsoft and finish the install/update of the OS and Drivers though "Update". Otherwise you're going to have to either convince the OEM to give you another copy of the OS, or convince Microsoft that the OEM won't help (I've actually gotten a copy of Win7 out of Microsoft this way, and you better believe I still have the .iso file for it...)

 

[foukal]

You're going to have trouble because Microsoft doesn't acknowledge OEM License Keys: they will send you back to the manufacturer to get a copy of Win7, and frankly, the OEMs don't cooperate worth a darn.

You can always try to install the OS onto your new build using the CD/DVD that you have. It could get you up and running enough that you'd be able to connect to Microsoft and finish the install/update of the OS and Drivers though "Update". Otherwise you're going to have to either convince the OEM to give you another copy of the OS, or convince Microsoft that the OEM won't help (I've actually gotten a copy of Win7 out of Microsoft this way, and you better believe I still have the .iso file for it...)

I surely want to try clean installation from dvd just to test it how it goes because I'm planning to do the same on my other very similiar build soon. But I don't quite understand what is the difference install it from my dvd or burn iso file and install it from here, isn't it totally same? Or version from microsoft site is somehow updated/patched to fix problems with usb drivers or other incompatibilities?

 

[mazboy]

You're going to have trouble because Microsoft doesn't acknowledge OEM License Keys: they will send you back to the manufacturer to get a copy of Win7, and frankly, the OEMs don't cooperate worth a darn.

You can always try to install the OS onto your new build using the CD/DVD that you have. It could get you up and running enough that you'd be able to connect to Microsoft and finish the install/update of the OS and Drivers though "Update". Otherwise you're going to have to either convince the OEM to give you another copy of the OS, or convince Microsoft that the OEM won't help (I've actually gotten a copy of Win7 out of Microsoft this way, and you better believe I still have the .iso file for it...)

I surely want to try clean installation from dvd just to test it how it goes because I'm planning to do the same on my other very similiar build soon. But I don't quite understand what is the difference install it from my dvd or burn iso file and install it from here, isn't it totally same? Or version from microsoft site is somehow updated/patched to fix problems with usb drivers or other incompatibilities?

The CD/DVD that you have is the OEM version of Win7 (and it is old and outdated). It contains all manner of OEM-type bloatware, useless utilities and other clutter. The version of Win7 you would download as a .iso from Microsoft would be a "clean" version, and the latest available, requiring considerably less time online getting updated. It will have, or have access to, all the latest drivers for your laptop (remember, the CD/DVD that you have is "frozen" in time)

You also need to realize that Microsoft will know if you try to load a single license key onto multiple computers, and will do everything it can to thwart you.

 

[foukal]

You're going to have trouble because Microsoft doesn't acknowledge OEM License Keys: they will send you back to the manufacturer to get a copy of Win7, and frankly, the OEMs don't cooperate worth a darn.

You can always try to install the OS onto your new build using the CD/DVD that you have. It could get you up and running enough that you'd be able to connect to Microsoft and finish the install/update of the OS and Drivers though "Update". Otherwise you're going to have to either convince the OEM to give you another copy of the OS, or convince Microsoft that the OEM won't help (I've actually gotten a copy of Win7 out of Microsoft this way, and you better believe I still have the .iso file for it...)

I surely want to try clean installation from dvd just to test it how it goes because I'm planning to do the same on my other very similiar build soon. But I don't quite understand what is the difference install it from my dvd or burn iso file and install it from here, isn't it totally same? Or version from microsoft site is somehow updated/patched to fix problems with usb drivers or other incompatibilities?

The CD/DVD that you have is the OEM version of Win7 (and it is old and outdated). It contains all manner of OEM-type bloatware, useless utilities and other clutter. The version of Win7 you would download as a .iso from Microsoft would be a "clean" version, and the latest available, requiring considerably less time online getting updated. It will have, or have access to, all the latest drivers for your laptop (remember, the CD/DVD that you have is "frozen" in time)

You also need to realize that Microsoft will know if you try to load a single license key onto multiple computers, and will do everything it can to thwart you.

Thanks a lot for info, with this knowledge it would be much wiser to install clean version then.
So, Microsoft iso version should have support for usb/mobo chipsets and I won't run into any problems like non-reacting keyboard and mouse or A required CD/DVD drive device driver is missing and such?

 

[mazboy]

You're going to have trouble because Microsoft doesn't acknowledge OEM License Keys: they will send you back to the manufacturer to get a copy of Win7, and frankly, the OEMs don't cooperate worth a darn.

You can always try to install the OS onto your new build using the CD/DVD that you have. It could get you up and running enough that you'd be able to connect to Microsoft and finish the install/update of the OS and Drivers though "Update". Otherwise you're going to have to either convince the OEM to give you another copy of the OS, or convince Microsoft that the OEM won't help (I've actually gotten a copy of Win7 out of Microsoft this way, and you better believe I still have the .iso file for it...)

I surely want to try clean installation from dvd just to test it how it goes because I'm planning to do the same on my other very similiar build soon. But I don't quite understand what is the difference install it from my dvd or burn iso file and install it from here, isn't it totally same? Or version from microsoft site is somehow updated/patched to fix problems with usb drivers or other incompatibilities?

The CD/DVD that you have is the OEM version of Win7 (and it is old and outdated). It contains all manner of OEM-type bloatware, useless utilities and other clutter. The version of Win7 you would download as a .iso from Microsoft would be a "clean" version, and the latest available, requiring considerably less time online getting updated. It will have, or have access to, all the latest drivers for your laptop (remember, the CD/DVD that you have is "frozen" in time)

You also need to realize that Microsoft will know if you try to load a single license key onto multiple computers, and will do everything it can to thwart you.

Thanks a lot for info, with this knowledge it would be much wiser to install clean version then.
So, Microsoft iso version should have support for usb/mobo chipsets and I won't run into any problems like non-reacting keyboard and mouse or A required CD/DVD drive device driver is missing and such?

You shouldn't have any problems with drivers at all. Microsoft has gotten really good at that over the last several years. You need to understand, though, that Win7 is approaching the point (2020 I think) where Microsoft isn't going to support it anymore.

 

[foukal]

You're going to have trouble because Microsoft doesn't acknowledge OEM License Keys: they will send you back to the manufacturer to get a copy of Win7, and frankly, the OEMs don't cooperate worth a darn.

You can always try to install the OS onto your new build using the CD/DVD that you have. It could get you up and running enough that you'd be able to connect to Microsoft and finish the install/update of the OS and Drivers though "Update". Otherwise you're going to have to either convince the OEM to give you another copy of the OS, or convince Microsoft that the OEM won't help (I've actually gotten a copy of Win7 out of Microsoft this way, and you better believe I still have the .iso file for it...)

I surely want to try clean installation from dvd just to test it how it goes because I'm planning to do the same on my other very similiar build soon. But I don't quite understand what is the difference install it from my dvd or burn iso file and install it from here, isn't it totally same? Or version from microsoft site is somehow updated/patched to fix problems with usb drivers or other incompatibilities?

The CD/DVD that you have is the OEM version of Win7 (and it is old and outdated). It contains all manner of OEM-type bloatware, useless utilities and other clutter. The version of Win7 you would download as a .iso from Microsoft would be a "clean" version, and the latest available, requiring considerably less time online getting updated. It will have, or have access to, all the latest drivers for your laptop (remember, the CD/DVD that you have is "frozen" in time)

You also need to realize that Microsoft will know if you try to load a single license key onto multiple computers, and will do everything it can to thwart you.

Thanks a lot for info, with this knowledge it would be much wiser to install clean version then.
So, Microsoft iso version should have support for usb/mobo chipsets and I won't run into any problems like non-reacting keyboard and mouse or A required CD/DVD drive device driver is missing and such?

You shouldn't have any problems with drivers at all. Microsoft has gotten really good at that over the last several years. You need to understand, though, that Win7 is approaching the point (2020 I think) where Microsoft isn't going to support it anymore.

Thanks lot again for info, that will be all, solved