Small UK Town Lays Its Own Fibre Broadband

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merikafyeah

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Laying the physical cables is one thing. Connecting to the rest of the world is another.
You'd need access to a local internet exhange point to become your own ISP and connect to the rest of the world.

Unless of course you want to rely on another ISP's fiber services to connect to the broader internet.
 

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[citation][nom]mayankleoboy1[/nom]thats nothing. In India, people lay their own roads and their own railway platforms.[/citation]
I would be happy with fibre broadband and no roads. Kinda.
 

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[citation][nom]merikafyeah[/nom]Laying the physical cables is one thing. Connecting to the rest of the world is another.You'd need access to a local internet exhange point to become your own ISP and connect to the rest of the world.Unless of course you want to rely on another ISP's fiber services to connect to the broader internet.[/citation]

Laying the layer 1 is by far the most expensive part. It requires a large amount of up front capital costs and it will take awhile before it's revenue earning. That is why ISPs are so hesitant to do it, it's expensive and will take time before they can earn their money back, so they don't do it and instead just charge people more money.

Tier 1 bandwidth is dirt cheap, ISP's tend to overbook by 100x or more to resell it.
 

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[citation][nom]mayankleoboy1[/nom]thats nothing. In India, people lay their own roads and their own railway platforms.[/citation]
I'm not sure many here would get that joke...

[citation][nom]Pherule[/nom]I would be happy with fibre broadband and no roads. Kinda.[/citation]
Hehe. Easy to say when you have roads! :p
 
After living with craptastic broadband services, 6 or 7 local communities in North Carolina (generally, 20-30k in population) laid fiber and set up their own systems, managed by independent boards.

It pee'd off the cable and telcoms, so they went to the state assembly and had laws passed that set the bar so high it is now near-impossible for communities to do so in the future.

 

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[citation][nom]Wisecracker[/nom]After living with craptastic broadband services, 6 or 7 local communities in North Carolina (generally, 20-30k in population) laid fiber and set up their own systems, managed by independent boards.It pee'd off the cable and telcoms, so they went to the state assembly and had laws passed that set the bar so high it is now near-impossible for communities to do so in the future.[/citation]
Cuz in US it is about few selected individuals and not about community or group of people.
US has been doing everything the ''i'' way, but now it is coming to the point where pro-capitalist people being frightened by word such as community and called everything socialism started to wake up.

No Individual, or few Individuals should ever take power of the nation. Nation is power, nation is law, nation is everybody, there is no space for individualist wanting to control the rest.
 

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Yep because the last thing those in control want are groups of people banding together to get stuff done. It takes power away from the elite if Joe Average gets up with a few pals to fix something.

The power of the individual is largely a myth these days. It's just there to keep you down.

Getting together to make your lives better is not socialism.
 

ozvip3r

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How can you spell Fibre in English in the title and then spell it in American throughout the article? Make up your mind. All Toms' articles are turning to shit with grammatical and factual errors riddled throughout every single article.
 

merikafyeah

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[citation][nom]ozvip3r[/nom]How can you spell Fibre in English in the title and then spell it in American throughout the article? Make up your mind. All Toms' articles are turning to shit with grammatical and factual errors riddled throughout every single article.[/citation]
There is nothing wrong with spelling a word two different ways. Both ways are equally accepted.
Those who understand human language at a fundamental level know that all naturally occurring languages have no "proper" form, for the simple fact that there is no universal authority which defines "proper" usage. Notice how many terms which were once considered "proper" are no longer true today? How a word is used or spelled is defined by the users, the speakers of the language. No dictionary, or academy, or government can dictate what is proper. If people continually use a word or phrase a certain way, it becomes proper to them, and this is how languages evolve bit by bit, and it has been this way since the dawn of human tongues.

The only cases in which languages have a proper form is in the case of artificial languages. Intentionally constructed languages have a universal authority in the form of their creators. Examples would include the many computer programming languages that exist today. These languages have a proper form because errors in usage make the incorrect portion useless, or in some cases destructive.
 

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I live in a small town in NY (a few hundred) in the middle of nowhere and have had fiber to the home for nearly 10 years... so it can be done even in the US.
 

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[citation][nom]merikafyeah[/nom]There is nothing wrong with spelling a word two different ways. Both ways are equally accepted.[/citation]Yeah that's swell, except that it's still bad writing to switch between two different spellings of a word, regardless of if both spellings are considered acceptable. As for everything else you said... you're not wrong, but there have to be standards otherwise people can't understand each other. Next time are you going to defend someone who posts comments written by their cat walking across the keyboard? After all, language is fluid and there's no such thing as "proper" language so who's to say that "qwsjhtypomnc," as written by Whiskers isn't legitimate communication, right?

Anyway, on-topic: that's great. Wish more of that could happen here in the States... but of course we can't have "socialism" undermining our great capitalist tradition, now can we? *sigh*
 

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'another 1.5 million needed to finish' makes me wonder how much it has cost so far. With these smaller village type projects I'm always puzzled as to why some of the wi Max type of products never get offered, surely they can be installed quickly and very cheaply.
 

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[citation][nom]kyuuketsuki[/nom]Yeah that's swell, except that it's still bad writing to switch between two different spellings of a word, regardless of if both spellings are considered acceptable. As for everything else you said... you're not wrong, but there have to be standards otherwise people can't understand each other. Next time are you going to defend someone who posts comments written by their cat walking across the keyboard? After all, language is fluid and there's no such thing as "proper" language so who's to say that "qwsjhtypomnc," as written by Whiskers isn't legitimate communication, right?[/citation]

Jane is Irish and has only been living in the US for a relatively short time.
 

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'another 1.5 million needed to finish' makes me wonder how much it has cost so far. With these smaller village type projects I'm always puzzled as to why some of the wi Max type of products never get offered, surely they can be installed quickly and very cheaply.
 

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'another 1.5 million needed to finish' makes me wonder how much it has cost so far. With these smaller village type projects I'm always puzzled as to why some of the wi Max type of products never get offered, surely they can be installed quickly and very cheaply.
 

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'another 1.5 million needed to finish' makes me wonder how much it has cost so far. With these smaller village type projects I'm always puzzled as to why some of the wi Max type of products never get offered, surely they can be installed quickly and very cheaply.
 

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'another 1.5 million needed to finish' makes me wonder how much it has cost so far. With these smaller village type projects I'm always puzzled as to why some of the wi Max type of products never get offered, surely they can be installed quickly and very cheaply.
 

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Why the hell do we still have a dozen different comment listings on this damn site?!!

Everytime I get here is always defaults me to the UK version which has empty comments so I have to manually choose the US version to see anyone.

FGS Tom's just pull it all into one comment list!
 

timw03878

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[citation][nom]downhill911[/nom]Cuz in US it is about few selected individuals and not about community or group of people.US has been doing everything the ''i'' way, but now it is coming to the point where pro-capitalist people being frightened by word such as community and called everything socialism started to wake up.No Individual, or few Individuals should ever take power of the nation. Nation is power, nation is law, nation is everybody, there is no space for individualist wanting to control the rest.[/citation]

What this story proves is that capitalism and the free market work.

People got tired of waiting for the government in concert with corporations to do it, so free people came together and did it themselves.

Your rant makes no sense.
 


It makes sense in the context of my post directly above his **rant**

(as you call it)





 

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I cannot believe how many people don't know the difference between a small community coming together to supply a need that no-one else will supply and a form of government (most compared to Socialism and Communism).
This has nothing to do with a form of government. Neither Capitalism nor Communism. It is about Freedom, these people didn't have it, no-one would supply it, so they made it for themselves. It is about local people working together for the common good. I know many of you get confused by this idea. Go back to school and sue them for giving you a sub-standard education.
Using government to provide for a need that individuals cannot achieve on their own is the entire purpose of forming any governmental body. The "-isms" only disagree on what is "needed". In this case the People decided and acted on what they needed. Freedom.
 

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[citation][nom]jakeson[/nom]I cannot believe how many people don't know the difference between a small community coming together to supply a need that no-one else will supply and a form of government (most compared to Socialism and Communism). This has nothing to do with a form of government. Neither Capitalism nor Communism. It is about Freedom, these people didn't have it, no-one would supply it, so they made it for themselves. It is about local people working together for the common good. I know many of you get confused by this idea. Go back to school and sue them for giving you a sub-standard education. Using government to provide for a need that individuals cannot achieve on their own is the entire purpose of forming any governmental body. The "-isms" only disagree on what is "needed". In this case the People decided and acted on what they needed. Freedom.[/citation]

Could not agree more, except on one point.

Part of capitalism is a free market.

Capitalism is merely saving resources to invest in tools to be more productive.
Which is part of what they did here in a free market to provide for their own needs without government interference.

This story illustrates perfectly any idiot who says "we need the government to build the roads"
 

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[citation][nom]womble[/nom]'another 1.5 million needed to finish' makes me wonder how much it has cost so far. With these smaller village type projects I'm always puzzled as to why some of the wi Max type of products never get offered, surely they can be installed quickly and very cheaply.[/citation]

In the long run fiber is cheaper to upgrade. And a lot faster
 
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