News SMIC Vows to Triple 300-mm Production Capacity Despite U.S. Sanctions

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In a private addendum to this, made directly to the Chinese government, SMIC vows to triple production capacity and theft of trade secrets and foreign industrial espionage.
 

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get over it, chinese have been able to think by themselves and create techs surpassing the USA. These arrogant and borderline racist comment are useless and dont help anybody.
 
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There is nothing arrogant nor "borderline racist" about pointing out simple truth. Chinese firms have stolen hundreds of billions of dollars of trade secrets, SMIC is one of the chief offenders.

Just one of several thousand incidents : California jury finds SMIC stole trade secrets | Reuters
You are right, you're not racist but you are ignorant, 300 nm technology is stone age for semiconductor, just like China accused you to steal paper technology that they invented, get over it your racism before commenting
 
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In a private addendum to this, made directly to the Chinese government, SMIC vows to triple production capacity and theft of trade secrets and foreign industrial espionage.
As if SMIC invented industrial espionage... Something that your own country is already champion before even China was able to produce a car
 

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I think the real problem there is that the Chinese government basically allowed and even actively helped with the espionage to get their industries off the ground. US companies are complicit as well, they don't do anything to prevent it in fear of losing the Chinese market. I can name a few instances where a US company built a factory, and the knock offs were made next door. Silly one that comes to mind is the Calloway golf club story, though that isn't exactly a technological marvel.

Larger process nodes aren't obsolete, they are still necessary for certain high power electronics and won't be going away.
 

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You are right, you're not racist but you are ignorant, 300 nm technology is stone age for semiconductor, just like China accused you to steal paper technology that they invented
Stop trolling, or at least educate yourself. There are still only a handful of foundries in the world who can produce 300nm these chips, and a wealth of trade secrets and patents around how to produce them cheaply, quickly, reliably, and in high volume. There's still plenty to steal here.

As if SMIC invented industrial espionage...
SMIC certainly didn't invent it, and companies in all nations engage in it occasionally. The difference is that SMIC does it with the full support, encouragement, and direct aid of the Chinese government.
 
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You are right, you're not racist but you are ignorant, 300 nm technology is stone age for semiconductor, just like China accused you to steal paper technology that they invented, get over it your racism before commenting

I think you misread the article. It's not 300 nanometer technology, it's 28 nm technology on 300 millimeter fabs. 28 nm process is not that old.

And yes, China's standard mode of operation was "steal and duplicate" for decades. Nothing racist about pointing out that fact.
 

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You are right, you're not racist but you are ignorant, 300 nm technology is stone age for semiconductor, just like China accused you to steal paper technology that they invented, get over it your racism before commenting
In case you haven't realized, it's 300mm, as in 300 millimeters, not nanometers. The article is referring to the wafer production of SMIC.

I think you misread the article. It's not 300 nanometer technology, it's 28 nm technology on 300 millimeter fabs. 28 nm process is not that old.
28nm is about a decade old, which is pretty old in terms of semiconductor technology, around the same time as Intel's Ivy Bridge architecture.
 
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