Some Preliminary Results of AMD Thuban @ 2.8GHz (OC'd too)

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Do you think the final results will mirror these preliminaries or do you still think that Phenom II

  • Final results will mirror preliminary results

    Votes: 29 63.0%

  • Equally clocked Phenom II X6 will outperform Core i7s by a considerable margin

    Votes: 17 37.0%
  • Total voters
    46
From what I am seeing, Thuban is matching Core i7 clock for clock pretty well and seems to be slightly ahead at times. So Phenom X6 = Core i7, that's a great deal especially if the $200 Phenom X6 is true then it will be the budget king easily.

All that said, it is a useless upgrade for anyone with a Core 2 quad Q9400 or higher or an Athlon II X4, we just don't need this CPU power.
 
If PII-X6 performs on par with i7 at the same frequency, can be OCed as high, and cost about the same as i7, then it would be a much better buy than i7.

Why? Because AMD MBs are much cheaper in most countries!
 

That will depend on what a potential buyer cares about most. Some folks care about energy efficiency (I do but only to a certain extent). These folks might be put off by the relatively higher demand for power of the Phenom II X6 over a Core i7 (this is assuming a power envelope near that of Istanbul).
 
When's the last time Intel dropped to compete? Not flame-baiting, I just don't remember.

But hey, if Thuban can go head-to-head at equal clocks with i7, it's ahead of my estimates. I'd say it'll probably perform very closely to these, though.
 

Well all of Intel's processors are priced competitively (in my humble opinion). I mean if there is no real competition for certain CPUs... how can you blame Intel :)

That being said, AMD is on a price war in both the CPU and GPU segments. They really work hard to undercut the competition.
 


lol.. I don't know how to take that comment. If you mean't it sincerely (as though you don't understand what Einstein was referring too) then I'll gladly let you know :)

But if you meant it as an insult well... lol


Einstein meant that "Common sense" is subjective to the individual who operates within the framework of specific environmental variables. That is to say that what is "Common" to some is no "Common" to others (Common sense is mostly based on the community/company/family values which surrounded your upbringing).

That doesn't mean that "Common sense" is true. Some explanations for, what appeared to be at the time, inexplicable events (supernatural) were "Common sense" for many people (and continue to be). But as Science progresses and our understanding of the natural world increases... we can now explain many a strange phenomenon with natural, empirical means (By employing the scientific method).

To conclude... "Common Sense" can be true or false (or a mix of the two)... whereas Scientific Evidence (empirical means) are nearly always true (not as factual as mathematics but much better than relying on superstition and "common sense" as driving factors for human understanding of the natural world which surrounds us).
 
i meant it sincerely, i had never thought of it that way, thats all, because even in my life, i have noticed that my "common sense" does not always mirror perfectly anothers "common sense" because each persons common sense is highly based on their environment and previous experiences, so thx for having a real thought provoking quote instead of some lamo system specs for the rest of us : )
 

Glad you enjoyed it :)
 


I looked at Istanbul and MC to get an idea. Servers are known for usuing more memory, memory bandwidth and multiple cores more efficiently than a desktop is. If you look at that, a 24 core MC setup barley outperforms a 12 core Xeon setup, a Istanbul barley beats a 4 core Xeon and loses to Westmere.

Now apply simple logic to the desktop world and you will get on par and maybe slightly better in some multithreaded apps as Core i7. This alone shows that. I don't expect release to all of the sudden have it blowing Core i7 away.



Budget king maybe. But its still unimpressive for a true 6 core. Well at least in the few multithreaded apps.

And I would say Q6600+/Phenom II X3+ is fine and in no need of an upgrade till Sandy Bridge/Bulldozer.



Need to wait for benchmarks. TDP is great until you see the system draw on it. Thats what I am waiting for.
 
I'm not seeing a good upgrade in Sandy Bridge or Bulldozer either. Core i5/i7 wasn't a good upgrade from C2Q, unless you wanted SLI and CrossfireX on the same board. The CPU is becoming irrelevant, SSDs show a bigger impact, its an interesting market.
 


The 26th is when it's suppose to be out from what i know. Which is a little under 2 weeks from now.
 
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This was hard for me to answer as I don’t see it mirroring the preliminary results nor do I see it outperforming i7 by a “considerable” margin. Personally I think it will perform slightly better than the preliminary results. I kind of can’t wait to see what this does to the price of all the other chips.

Unlike some others I can see where this extra power would be useful. If you write a lot of multithreaded code and like to test it in a reasonable time the extra power can come in handy. The only down side to having it complete fast is you don’t have as much of a break away from the computer. [:tapko:3]

 
Well I'll wait till around June, build a new system with one. Hopefully USB 3 might be more prevalant on mobo's and they'll have whatever bugs have been found shooken out by then.

Worf
 


That's what I've done in the past. A tad more credence has to be afforded to the usage of DDR3 memory by this particular processor as well as some core tweaks but other than that... I don't see much of a boost (even in multi-core apps).
 
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