Some Upgrade Tips?

[MitchMuiz]

First of all, I am new to this forum so hi!

Second, i need some help with upgrading my PC
I have a AMD Phenom II x4 945 Processor clocked at 3 GHZ
My graphics card is a ATI Radeon HD 4600
Cant seem to find my motherboard, please include a detailed description how i can find what motherboard i have.

Third: All parts most be available in the Netherlands

Thanks for your Help
~MitchMuiz

 

[Agera One]

Download Speccy and install it. You can see the motherboard details in it easily.
Also, say you exact GPU model, 46xx ?? budget or the website you prefer to refer the pricing of components.

 

[MitchMuiz]

Motherboard: MSI 760GM-P23(FX)
GPU: ATI Radeon HD 4600 Series (1024 MB)

 

[Agera One]

Any budget (for whole upgrade) or the website you prefer to refer the pricing of components?

 

[MitchMuiz]

around €200
i dont know any sites to upgrade or something, i just need some suggestions for Graphics card etc,
i was thinking of a Nvidia Geforce GTX 750, but will my motherboard keep up with that?

 

[Agera One]

Yes, the GTX 750 (both Ti and non Ti version) will be very fine with that motherboard.

http://de.pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-video-card-r9280dc2t3gd5
http://de.pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-video-card-n760tf2gd5oc


These both card will work fine with your motherboard without any bottlenecks. But I'm not 100% sure about the price. You have to check it where you'll buy. If the price is higher, just go down one step and get that GPU. The performance order is R9 280> GTX 760 > R9 270x > HD 7870 > (R9 270 or HD 7850).

 

[MitchMuiz]

I think im going to order the GTX 750TI on a Dutch site.
But is this one the same?
http://www.videokaartshop.nl/product/435939/category-207602/msi-geforce-gtx-750ti-gaming.html
(it is in Dutch)

 

[Jefffritz12]

The card Agera linked in was a msi GTX 760. the one you linked is a GTX 750 ti. there well be some performance differances but all in all its still a pretty decent card and well fit in your system.

 

[MitchMuiz]

Do i have enough slots?
Also, What does TI mean?

 

[Jefffritz12]

It means it has more shaders than the other model. For example the GTX 560 vs GTX 560 Ti has a better shader ratio and well show better performance compared to the GTX 560

 

[MitchMuiz]

okay but,
Do i have enough slots on my motherboard?

 

[Agera One]

Ti means overclocked version of the base model. (750 ti is the overclocked version of 750).
Your motherboard has PCI-E 2.0 x16 (that blue slot) http://www.msi.com/product/mb/760GM-P23-FX.html#hero-specification

That MSI GTX 750 Ti you linked is a dual slot card. You have to remove the PCI-E covers at the back of your case (totally two removed).
Single (Fig.E) vs dual slot card (Fig.F):

Get this card: http://www.videokaartshop.nl/product/362262/category-207602/asus-gtx760-dc2oc-2gd5.html
The 760 is much more better card than 750Ti and can play all current games at ultra (without AA in some games).

But PSU comes into play when you're upgrading. The GTX 750Ti doesn't require a power supply connection. It gets the power from the PCI-E slot itself (recommended 400W PSU installed for the whole system). It's just plug and play GPU. But the 760 or higher card requires higher wattage PSUs (500W+) and PCI-E connectors.

I NEED TO KNOW WHAT BRAND PSU YOU HAVE NOW WITH THE WHOLE MODEL NAME.

 

[MitchMuiz]

Can i do that with software?

 

[Agera One]

No, you must see the PSU for any model name labels.

 

[MitchMuiz]

im not quite sure which one to buy:
I really want the GTX 760 but it will cost me €80 more than my budget.
I've i buy the GTX750ti how long can i play until it's outdated? i know i can play Far Cry 4 with it on high settings, but can my processor handle that?

 

[Agera One]

Nope the 750ti will not get bottlenecked with that CPU.

 

[MitchMuiz]

what do you mean with bottlenecked?
and are there any alternatives without getting a new PSU or a cheap one?

 

[Agera One]

Bottlenecking occurs when a average CPU is combined to work with high-end powerful GPU such that the CPU hits 100% usage before the GPU fully delivers its capacity. In this case, you're having enough hardware power for your need (gaming), but the CPU *bottlenecks* the GPU.

Anything over R9 270x (from AMD) and GTX 750 Ti (from Nvidia) will get bottlenecked by that CPU. You might have to upgrade the CPU or overclock it beyond 3.5+ GHz with a very good after market cooler to avoid bottlenecking. In all the above case, you've to spend money. So, it is better to stay with GTX 750Ti and save money for future.

 

[MitchMuiz]

Thanks!
Is the 750 TI good for gaming, for example Far Cry 4 and the upcoming Total War: Atilla combined with my CPU?

Sorry for the late reply's, i'm having a really crappy week.

Thanks in advance.
MitchMuiz.

 

[Agera One]

You'll get around 30 fps (avg) with everything turned on in Far Cry 4. Can't say about the games yet to release.

 

[MitchMuiz]

i dont really know what to do right now.
i have the money to buy the 750 ti, but will bottleneck occur?
or should i save more money to buy/build a computer?

 

[Agera One]

I said, anything above 750ti or R9 270x will get bottlenecked. Not these two will get bottlenecked. So, if you have money to buy 750ti, get it now. It is the fastest card without a power supply input. It's more like a plug and play GPU.

 

[MitchMuiz]

Okay i will.
Thanks for all the help!

 

[MitchMuiz]

I bought the 750, but now my CPU reaches 80 degrees when im gaming.
is this normal?

 

[Agera One]

It's a bit high. Clean and re-apply thermal paste or get a aftermarket CPU cooler.