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Looking for some feedback on this product. I have v2.5 now and am
trying to justify the upgrade or maybe move to a different product.
Sonic doesn't offer any trial versions of this. Maybe they are
listening.

Thanks....
Rich M.
 
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Richard M. wrote:

> Looking for some feedback on this product. I have v2.5 now and am
> trying to justify the upgrade or maybe move to a different product.
> Sonic doesn't offer any trial versions of this. Maybe they are
> listening.

YES! I have it, and it is working out great. The main benefit is the
conversion of the audio to AC3 files, taking up less room on the disc.
This has permitted us to make the videos up to 2 hours easily.

The programming benefits are just as welcome. Chapter making is precise
and easy now. Menu mapping and flexibility are greater. You can make the
buttons highlight many different ways, rather than just greying out the
button selected. Motion menus, including the background and the buttons.

Just about everything about it has been improved, and it is solid as a
rock. Haven't seen any of those "unknown error" messages trying to build
a disc.

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On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 13:23:45 GMT, Gary Eickmeier
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>
>
>Richard M. wrote:
>
>> Looking for some feedback on this product. I have v2.5 now and am
>> trying to justify the upgrade or maybe move to a different product.
>> Sonic doesn't offer any trial versions of this. Maybe they are
>> listening.
>
>YES! I have it, and it is working out great. The main benefit is the
>conversion of the audio to AC3 files, taking up less room on the disc.
>This has permitted us to make the videos up to 2 hours easily.
>
>The programming benefits are just as welcome. Chapter making is precise
>and easy now. Menu mapping and flexibility are greater. You can make the
>buttons highlight many different ways, rather than just greying out the
>button selected. Motion menus, including the background and the buttons.
>
>Just about everything about it has been improved, and it is solid as a
>rock. Haven't seen any of those "unknown error" messages trying to build
>a disc.
>
>Gary Eickmeier


Thanks for the input. I upgraded yesterday and now trying to figure
out how it works.


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Richard M. wrote:

> Thanks for the input. I upgraded yesterday and now trying to figure
> out how it works.

The biggest thing for me was the installation! After you install it,
there is a long pause before you get a screen that tells you to reboot
your computer. You leave the CD in the drive while it reboots. After
that, you should be able to remove the CD and begin work. What I did was
remove the CD right after install said it was complete, but it wasn't
complete.

Next thing I did that was helpful was print the entire Help manual. It's
about 120 pages, but I have read it several times. I also watched a
tutorial on getting started, from their website
http://support.sonic.com/desktop/tutorials.asp?type=desktop&product=dvdit

Gary Eickmeier

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Richard M. wrote:

> On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 13:23:45 GMT, Gary Eickmeier
> <geickmei@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>
>
>>
>>Richard M. wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Looking for some feedback on this product. I have v2.5 now and am
>>>trying to justify the upgrade or maybe move to a different product.
>>>Sonic doesn't offer any trial versions of this. Maybe they are
>>>listening.
>>
>>YES! I have it, and it is working out great. The main benefit is the
>>conversion of the audio to AC3 files, taking up less room on the disc.
>>This has permitted us to make the videos up to 2 hours easily.
>>
>>The programming benefits are just as welcome. Chapter making is precise
>>and easy now. Menu mapping and flexibility are greater. You can make the
>>buttons highlight many different ways, rather than just greying out the
>>button selected. Motion menus, including the background and the buttons.
>>
>>Just about everything about it has been improved, and it is solid as a
>>rock. Haven't seen any of those "unknown error" messages trying to build
>>a disc.
>>
>>Gary Eickmeier
>
>
>
> Thanks for the input. I upgraded yesterday and now trying to figure
> out how it works.
>
>
> Rich M.
Richard try the DVDit 5 tutorial here
http://support.sonic.com/desktop/tutorials.asp?type=desktop&product=mydvd
 
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>>
>>
>> Rich M.
>Richard try the DVDit 5 tutorial here
>http://support.sonic.com/desktop/tutorials.asp?type=desktop&product=mydvd


Very good tutorial for getting started. Unfortunately, the program is
not functioning. When I click on New Project, name it, then click
the OK button, I get the Windows hourglass for 30 seconds. I can't
explain this delay and would like to know if anyone else is
experiencing this. I can import media OK, but in the EDIT mode, when
I drag a media file (AVI, MPG) to the square labled DRAG MEDIA HERE TO
CREATE VIDEO, a small dialog box comes up and says 'Selecting movie.
Please wait....' After that, nothing happens. I have to bring up the
Task Manager to end the program, then after another 15 seconds a
dialog box comes up 'You chose to end the nonresponsive program, Sonic
DVDit!. Please tell Microsoft about this problem. I uninstalled the
program, then reinstalled, to no avail. Sent email to Sonic Support,
but haven't heard back yet. Other functions seem to work, like
building menus, but when I click on Finish to test the menus, if I
click on a button that is linked to a video, the program really goes
haywire. Dialog boxes open all over the screen with this message:

COULD NOT COMPLETE THE LAST COMMAND BECAUSE: USE OF INVALID EDITOR:
NOT IN MULTI-NODE CONTAINER.

Again, have to ctrl-alt-del to terminate the program. Thinking of
rolling XP back to before the installation and reinstall again. This
program is a joy to use over version 2.5, if I can just get these
problems solved. Anyone at Sonic listening?

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Richard M. wrote:

>>>
>>>Rich M.
>>
>>Richard try the DVDit 5 tutorial here
>>http://support.sonic.com/desktop/tutorials.asp?type=desktop&product=mydvd
>
>
>
> Very good tutorial for getting started. Unfortunately, the program is
> not functioning. When I click on New Project, name it, then click
> the OK button, I get the Windows hourglass for 30 seconds. I can't
> explain this delay and would like to know if anyone else is
> experiencing this. I can import media OK, but in the EDIT mode, when
> I drag a media file (AVI, MPG) to the square labled DRAG MEDIA HERE TO
> CREATE VIDEO, a small dialog box comes up and says 'Selecting movie.
> Please wait....' After that, nothing happens. I have to bring up the
> Task Manager to end the program, then after another 15 seconds a
> dialog box comes up 'You chose to end the nonresponsive program, Sonic
> DVDit!. Please tell Microsoft about this problem. I uninstalled the
> program, then reinstalled, to no avail. Sent email to Sonic Support,
> but haven't heard back yet. Other functions seem to work, like
> building menus, but when I click on Finish to test the menus, if I
> click on a button that is linked to a video, the program really goes
> haywire. Dialog boxes open all over the screen with this message:
>
> COULD NOT COMPLETE THE LAST COMMAND BECAUSE: USE OF INVALID EDITOR:
> NOT IN MULTI-NODE CONTAINER.
>
> Again, have to ctrl-alt-del to terminate the program. Thinking of
> rolling XP back to before the installation and reinstall again. This
> program is a joy to use over version 2.5, if I can just get these
> problems solved. Anyone at Sonic listening?
>
> Rich M.

Richard, I already anwered this question in my original reply to you.
Please re-read that carefully. You need to uninstall the program again,
and follow my instructions in reinstalling it. Be patient after you
think it is done installing - it is not. WAIT. Another screen will come
up and tell you to reboot. Leave the disc in the drive and reboot. THEN
it will be done with the install. Take the disc out and have a ball.

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Gary Eickmeier wrote:

> Richard, I already anwered this question in my original reply to you.
> Please re-read that carefully. You need to uninstall the program again,
> and follow my instructions in reinstalling it. Be patient after you
> think it is done installing - it is not. WAIT. Another screen will come
> up and tell you to reboot. Leave the disc in the drive and reboot. THEN
> it will be done with the install. Take the disc out and have a ball.
>

OK, so it was the second response to you...

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On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 02:32:07 GMT, Gary Eickmeier
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>
>
>Gary Eickmeier wrote:
>
>> Richard, I already anwered this question in my original reply to you.
>> Please re-read that carefully. You need to uninstall the program again,
>> and follow my instructions in reinstalling it. Be patient after you
>> think it is done installing - it is not. WAIT. Another screen will come
>> up and tell you to reboot. Leave the disc in the drive and reboot. THEN
>> it will be done with the install. Take the disc out and have a ball.
>>
>
>OK, so it was the second response to you...
>
>Gary Eickmeier


Gary:

I am installing from a downloaded file. I did not get the CD version
of this. I can try copying the install file, about 77megs, to a CD
and try installing from that. Will let you know how that comes out.


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Richard M. wrote:

> Gary:
>
> I am installing from a downloaded file. I did not get the CD version
> of this. I can try copying the install file, about 77megs, to a CD
> and try installing from that. Will let you know how that comes out.

Well, that probably isn't necessary - I mean, installing from the hard
drive is usually much faster than going from a CD ROM. In any case, it
is the surprise at the end that got me - just wait a couple of minutes
after the install is done, wait until it comes up with a reboot
instruction. Also, if there is something else going on, I got excellent
telephone support from them at 1-877-DVD-1124 or 1-415-893-7065.
Sometimes a download is bad and another attempt will fix it. They can
probably help you - but your problem is exactly what happened to me when
I screwed up the installation by not being patient at the end.

Hope this helps - I guarantee the program is a good one.

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On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 03:41:55 GMT, Gary Eickmeier
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>
>Richard M. wrote:
>
>> Gary:
>>
>> I am installing from a downloaded file. I did not get the CD version
>> of this. I can try copying the install file, about 77megs, to a CD
>> and try installing from that. Will let you know how that comes out.
>
>Well, that probably isn't necessary - I mean, installing from the hard
>drive is usually much faster than going from a CD ROM. In any case, it
>is the surprise at the end that got me - just wait a couple of minutes
>after the install is done, wait until it comes up with a reboot
>instruction. Also, if there is something else going on, I got excellent
>telephone support from them at 1-877-DVD-1124 or 1-415-893-7065.
>Sometimes a download is bad and another attempt will fix it. They can
>probably help you - but your problem is exactly what happened to me when
>I screwed up the installation by not being patient at the end.
>
>Hope this helps - I guarantee the program is a good one.
>
>Gary Eickmeier


Thanks a lot for your help, Gary. I will try tech support tomorrow.
I have been able to play with it long enough to know that I am going
to like it despite these few issues. It will probably even burn a
dvd, it's just that some of the key features lock up the program when
trying to use.

I've tried the un-install/re-install 4 times so I don't think it is
going to work without help from tech support. I even rolled Windows
XP back to before I did the original install, still no good.

Thanks again for your help. Will let you know how it turns out.


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Richard M. wrote:

> Thanks a lot for your help, Gary. I will try tech support tomorrow.
> I have been able to play with it long enough to know that I am going
> to like it despite these few issues. It will probably even burn a
> dvd, it's just that some of the key features lock up the program when
> trying to use.
>
> I've tried the un-install/re-install 4 times so I don't think it is
> going to work without help from tech support. I even rolled Windows
> XP back to before I did the original install, still no good.
>
> Thanks again for your help. Will let you know how it turns out.
>
>
> Rich M.

Yes, please do - a lot of people have bitched about DVDit in the past,
and I want to believe that this is a great version. I suspect the
download now, but tech support will figure it out.

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Gary Eickmeier (geickmei@tampabay.rr.com) wrote:


: Richard M. wrote:

: > Looking for some feedback on this product. I have v2.5 now and am
: > trying to justify the upgrade or maybe move to a different product.
: > Sonic doesn't offer any trial versions of this. Maybe they are
: > listening.

: YES! I have it, and it is working out great. The main benefit is the
: conversion of the audio to AC3 files, taking up less room on the disc.
: This has permitted us to make the videos up to 2 hours easily.

: The programming benefits are just as welcome. Chapter making is precise
: and easy now. Menu mapping and flexibility are greater. You can make the
: buttons highlight many different ways, rather than just greying out the
: button selected. Motion menus, including the background and the buttons.

: Just about everything about it has been improved, and it is solid as a
: rock. Haven't seen any of those "unknown error" messages trying to build
: a disc.

Sounds just great -- except it only runs on XP whereas I'm on ME and
don't intend to change. I ping'ed Sonic about it -- they thanked me
very much and said "Sorry".

-Larry Byler-
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For whatever it may be worth - Sonic did the same thing with MyDVD 5 -
XP only. It took a number of people telling them to take a hike
because they were not goin to buy into the XP scam just to get MyDVD
5, and a few months later they came out with MyDVD 5 for W98, 2000,
etc. I don't know about ME, but they gave in for W98 and W2K.

Of course, they refused to let me pay by Money Order, so I told them
that I was very happy with Vegas 5/DVD Architect, so they could keep
MyDVD, even if they did finally write it for W2K.

That is some really smart business plan they have!

lbyler@@mammoth.cup.hp.com (Larry Byler) wrote in message news:<6XkEc.5037$t41.3618@news.cpqcorp.net>...
> Gary Eickmeier (geickmei@tampabay.rr.com) wrote:
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> : Richard M. wrote:
>
> : > Looking for some feedback on this product. I have v2.5 now and am
> : > trying to justify the upgrade or maybe move to a different product.
> : > Sonic doesn't offer any trial versions of this. Maybe they are
> : > listening.
>
> : YES! I have it, and it is working out great. The main benefit is the
> : conversion of the audio to AC3 files, taking up less room on the disc.
> : This has permitted us to make the videos up to 2 hours easily.
>
> : The programming benefits are just as welcome. Chapter making is precise
> : and easy now. Menu mapping and flexibility are greater. You can make the
> : buttons highlight many different ways, rather than just greying out the
> : button selected. Motion menus, including the background and the buttons.
>
> : Just about everything about it has been improved, and it is solid as a
> : rock. Haven't seen any of those "unknown error" messages trying to build
> : a disc.
>
> Sounds just great -- except it only runs on XP whereas I'm on ME and
> don't intend to change. I ping'ed Sonic about it -- they thanked me
> very much and said "Sorry".
>
> -Larry Byler-
> annlarryATpacbellDOTnet
 
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On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 15:43:54 GMT, Gary Eickmeier
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>Yes, please do - a lot of people have bitched about DVDit in the past,
>and I want to believe that this is a great version. I suspect the
>download now, but tech support will figure it out.
>
>Gary Eickmeier

Gary:

Talked to tech support today, but by that time, I had installed
successfully on my laptop so that told me the install file was OK.
Functions without any problems but I didn't want to use the lap for
this purpose for I don't have a dvd burner on it and it is not my
video editing machine. Something is up with the Dell desktop that I
installed on. Will be working with tech support again tomorrow. At
least I can play with the program on the laptop just to get familiar
with it. It is a great improvement over the 2.5 version. Took your
advice and printed the entire help file.
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Gary Eickmeier wrote:
>
>
> Richard M. wrote:
>
>> Looking for some feedback on this product. I have v2.5 now and am
>> trying to justify the upgrade or maybe move to a different product.
>> Sonic doesn't offer any trial versions of this. Maybe they are
>> listening.
>
>
> YES! I have it, and it is working out great. The main benefit is the
> conversion of the audio to AC3 files, taking up less room on the disc.
> This has permitted us to make the videos up to 2 hours easily.
>
> The programming benefits are just as welcome. Chapter making is precise
> and easy now. Menu mapping and flexibility are greater. You can make the
> buttons highlight many different ways, rather than just greying out the
> button selected. Motion menus, including the background and the buttons.
>
> Just about everything about it has been improved, and it is solid as a
> rock. Haven't seen any of those "unknown error" messages trying to build
> a disc.
>
> Gary Eickmeier
>
I have DVDit 5.1 and it was worth an upgrade from DVDit 2.5.4. DVDit
5 is easier to use than DVDit 2.5. It is not on the level of Apple
DVD Studio Pro 3, if anything is.

Positives: It has motion menus [both thumbnails and backgrounds], It
is now easier to create chapter points, control over menu navigation,
slide shows and my DVD's look a lot better than in DVDit 2.5.

Negatives: First Play does not work properly, no ability to program
menu button or stop button on DVD remote controls, no menu transitions,
only supports
AC3 2.0 not 5.1, no captions for slideshow photos, no DLT support, no
support for alternate audio tracks, no support for subtitles, and no
encryption.

Despite the negatives it is a good product. I hope they address the
negatives in DVDit 5.2. I bought it for $150.
 
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NBK wrote:

> I have DVDit 5.1 and it was worth an upgrade from DVDit 2.5.4. DVDit
> 5 is easier to use than DVDit 2.5. It is not on the level of Apple
> DVD Studio Pro 3, if anything is.
>
> Positives: It has motion menus [both thumbnails and backgrounds], It
> is now easier to create chapter points, control over menu navigation,
> slide shows and my DVD's look a lot better than in DVDit 2.5.
>
> Negatives: First Play does not work properly, no ability to program
> menu button or stop button on DVD remote controls, no menu transitions,
> only supports
> AC3 2.0 not 5.1, no captions for slideshow photos, no DLT support, no
> support for alternate audio tracks, no support for subtitles, and no
> encryption.

What is the First Play problem you have had? Seems to work great for us.
Programming Menu and Stop buttons? If you press Menu on your remote, you
get the current menu - right? How could the Stop button work, other than
the standard stopping play and resume from this point? Not sure what
else could be programmed about that...

On the rest, I believe they said they would update the program gradually
in the near future.
>
> Despite the negatives it is a good product. I hope they address the
> negatives in DVDit 5.2. I bought it for $150.

Yes, I think I paid about that as well, as a previous owner.

Thanks for the input. Hope you can answer some of my questions.

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Richard M. wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 15:43:54 GMT, Gary Eickmeier
> <geickmei@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>>Yes, please do - a lot of people have bitched about DVDit in the past,
>>and I want to believe that this is a great version. I suspect the
>>download now, but tech support will figure it out.
>>
>>Gary Eickmeier
>
>
> Gary:
>
> Talked to tech support today, but by that time, I had installed
> successfully on my laptop so that told me the install file was OK.
> Functions without any problems but I didn't want to use the lap for
> this purpose for I don't have a dvd burner on it and it is not my
> video editing machine. Something is up with the Dell desktop that I
> installed on. Will be working with tech support again tomorrow. At
> least I can play with the program on the laptop just to get familiar
> with it. It is a great improvement over the 2.5 version. Took your
> advice and printed the entire help file.
> Rich M.

I'm sure they must have quizzed you on this, but you do have XP on your
Dell, right? Other system requirements that I see on my disc packaging
are: Microsoft Windows Media Player 7.1 or later, Media Player 9.0 and
Direct X 9.0b recommended, Internet Explorer 5.5 or later. Latest
service paks and fixes for your operating system. Some file formats
require Quicktime Player 6 (http://www.apple.com/quicktime/). The only
unusual hardware requirement I see is AGP video graphics adapter with at
least 8 MB RAM, 32 recommended.

Keep me posted. E-mail me for phone number if desired.

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Gary Eickmeier wrote:
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> NBK wrote:
>
>> I have DVDit 5.1 and it was worth an upgrade from DVDit 2.5.4. DVDit
>> 5 is easier to use than DVDit 2.5. It is not on the level of Apple
>> DVD Studio Pro 3, if anything is.
>>
>> Positives: It has motion menus [both thumbnails and backgrounds], It
>> is now easier to create chapter points, control over menu navigation,
>> slide shows and my DVD's look a lot better than in DVDit 2.5.
>>
>> Negatives: First Play does not work properly, no ability to program
>> menu button or stop button on DVD remote controls, no menu
>> transitions, only supports
>> AC3 2.0 not 5.1, no captions for slideshow photos, no DLT support, no
>> support for alternate audio tracks, no support for subtitles, and no
>> encryption.
>
>
> What is the First Play problem you have had? Seems to work great for us.
> Programming Menu and Stop buttons? If you press Menu on your remote, you
> get the current menu - right? How could the Stop button work, other than
> the standard stopping play and resume from this point? Not sure what
> else could be programmed about that...
>
> On the rest, I believe they said they would update the program gradually
> in the near future.
>
>>
>> Despite the negatives it is a good product. I hope they address the
>> negatives in DVDit 5.2. I bought it for $150.
>
>
> Yes, I think I paid about that as well, as a previous owner.
>
> Thanks for the input. Hope you can answer some of my questions.
>
> Gary Eickmeier
>
Gary E.,

***When i push the menu button, the first play screen is showed. I
would prefer to be able choose which screen it goes to.
***I would like to be able to display a picture when the stop button is
pushed.
***DVD Studio Pro 3 has these features but it is for Mac's only

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> Gary E.,
>
> ***When i push the menu button, the first play screen is showed. I
> would prefer to be able choose which screen it goes to.
> ***I would like to be able to display a picture when the stop button is
> pushed.
> ***DVD Studio Pro 3 has these features but it is for Mac's only

On the Menu button, I will have to check that out - I thought it just
went to whatever menu you were on at the moment. I never saw a disc
display a picture when you press Stop. Not familiar with DVD Studio Pro 3.

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>I'm sure they must have quizzed you on this, but you do have XP on your
>Dell, right? Other system requirements that I see on my disc packaging
>are: Microsoft Windows Media Player 7.1 or later, Media Player 9.0 and
>Direct X 9.0b recommended, Internet Explorer 5.5 or later. Latest
>service paks and fixes for your operating system. Some file formats
>require Quicktime Player 6 (http://www.apple.com/quicktime/). The only
>unusual hardware requirement I see is AGP video graphics adapter with at
>least 8 MB RAM, 32 recommended.
>
>Keep me posted. E-mail me for phone number if desired.
>
>Gary Eickmeier


Gary:

Solved the problem, but it took an XP reinstall to do it. As I
reinstall all of my other software, I will run DVDit to see what might
be the offending software or hardware. If I find out what it is, I
will be sure to post.

Thanks for your help. Now comes the fun part.

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Richard M. wrote:

> Gary:
>
> Solved the problem, but it took an XP reinstall to do it. As I
> reinstall all of my other software, I will run DVDit to see what might
> be the offending software or hardware. If I find out what it is, I
> will be sure to post.
>
> Thanks for your help. Now comes the fun part.
>
> Rich M.

Wow. I wouldn't have suspected that big a problem. Jeez. How did you
deduce that? Was it just the last possible cause? Anything to do with
all the Microsoft updates they keep shoving down our throats? I know it
needed to have SP1 to work - maybe that was it.

Thanks,

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>Wow. I wouldn't have suspected that big a problem. Jeez. How did you
>deduce that? Was it just the last possible cause? Anything to do with
>all the Microsoft updates they keep shoving down our throats? I know it
>needed to have SP1 to work - maybe that was it.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Gary Eickmeier

Didn't necessarily deduce anything. I just figured it was going to
come around to that anyway. I had a lot of trial ware that I
installed and wasn't using, so I guess now was as good a time as any
to clean house. Uninstalling software doesn't always get rid of
everything. I found that out after uninstalling DVDit several times.
Still leaves registry entries.

Another reason I wanted to reinstall the OS was to put it on the
smaller of my 2 HDs, an 80g, leaving the 200g for video work. I think
now I am going to use this box as a dedicated video workstation as
opposed to having everything but the kitchen sink. I was also using it
as an HTPC.
Rich M.