News Sony Slices Another 300 Grams off the Weight of the PlayStation 5

[Admin]

The Sony PlayStation 5 CFI-1202A (with ODD) is 300g lighter, and the PlayStation 5 CFI-1202B (digital) is 200g lighter. Sony documentation confirms the changes, but no details about what was cut.

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[punkncat]

Wasn't there some fluffle about the last time this was done the weight was taken out of the cooler?

 

[Giroro]

I disagree that Nintendo hasn't been raising the price of the Switch, they're just smart enough to avoid publicizing a price hike.

When the Switch launched 5 years ago, it had an MSRP of $299. Their most recent release was this week was the Splatoon 3 special edition OLED switch, which has an MSRP of $359. That's 20% more expensive than launch, and even $10 more than a standard OLED switch. The OLED switch, itself, was always a stealth price hike hidden by an extremely minor upgrade.
Minor late-gen hardware refreshes used to be at the same or cheaper price than the standard console - and the standard console usually had already gotten a price drop or two by that point. It just makes sense that old tech becomes less valuable as the hardware goes obsolete.

Imagine if instead of releasing a Galaxy S22 this year, Samsung just re-released a special color Galaxy S8 plus, at $10 over it's original launch price.
The phone market wouldn't accept that, so why should gamers?

I know gamers willingly spend obscene amounts of money on valueless subscriptions, broken games, scams, artless products, exploitative skinner boxes, infinitely copyable products, gambling, 'to win', FIFA, and imaginary doll clothes.... But they still deserve to have some modern hardware. If we are to believe it's so expensive to box and ship a product in "these trying times" then at least put something decent in the box. The days of everybody panic buying any trash leftover on the shelves are over.
These companies have had nearly 3 years to figure out their supply chain issues. At what point do the stockholders get to start blaming the out-of-control costs of doing business on incompetent management?
How much more will we take until we just find a better hobby?

Money doesn't disappear when you spend it. The only thing that can be certain is that somebody is getting extremely rich off of all this. I want to know who to blame.

 

[Eximo]

Wasn't there some fluffle about the last time this was done the weight was taken out of the cooler?

Likely, but generally they do generational power improvements that follow node shrinks. So if the original PS5 was N7, and the new chips are N6 or N5, then they can maintain performance, reduce power, and reduce cooling.

 

[watzupken]

Likely, but generally they do generational power improvements that follow node shrinks. So if the original PS5 was N7, and the new chips are N6 or N5, then they can maintain performance, reduce power, and reduce cooling.

I actually don't think they used a more advance node than what was used. Its more like the usual revision/ stepping where they deemed some improvements in thermals. But if they are so aggressively cutting the cooling solution, at some point, you will end up with either a very hot SOC, or, a loud fan to compensate for the lost of surface area for heat transfer. For me, I am just going to give the PS5 a pass for the price increase.

 

[WrongRookie]

When the Switch launched 5 years ago, it had an MSRP of $299. Their most recent release was this week was the Splatoon 3 special edition OLED switch, which has an MSRP of $359.

You're comparing the base version and a limited release edition. The 50$ is for all the other qol that comes for the OLED model besides the OLED screen.

The OLED switch, itself, was always a stealth price hike hidden by an extremely minor upgrade.

Again...not just the screen. You get an adjustable stand, internal 64gb storage and a more premium product.

I know gamers willingly spend obscene amounts of money on valueless subscriptions, broken games, scams, artless products, exploitative skinner boxes, infinitely copyable products, gambling, 'to win', FIFA, and imaginary doll clothes.... But they still deserve to have some modern hardware.

Ok..this puzzles me. Modern hardware has always had issues even before this fiasco started. Nintendo for instance never puts out hardware on par to the competition.

Unless you meant by supply..in which case that was also an issue from time to time.

Money doesn't disappear when you spend it. The only thing that can be certain is that somebody is getting extremely rich off of all this. I want to know who to blame.

This isn't a CEO scenario. Although I do admit that it is rather shady for Sony to do this...

 

[TheOtherOne]

They just removed one of two kidneys since you can do fine with just one kidney intact!

 

[Buturwrongtho]

I disagree that Nintendo hasn't been raising the price of the Switch, they're just smart enough to avoid publicizing a price hike.

When the Switch launched 5 years ago, it had an MSRP of $299. Their most recent release was this week was the Splatoon 3 special edition OLED switch, which has an MSRP of $359. That's 20% more expensive than launch, and even $10 more than a standard OLED switch. The OLED switch, itself, was always a stealth price hike hidden by an extremely minor upgrade.
Minor late-gen hardware refreshes used to be at the same or cheaper price than the standard console - and the standard console usually had already gotten a price drop or two by that point. It just makes sense that old tech becomes less valuable as the hardware goes obsolete.

Imagine if instead of releasing a Galaxy S22 this year, Samsung just re-released a special color Galaxy S8 plus, at $10 over it's original launch price.
The phone market wouldn't accept that, so why should gamers?

I know gamers willingly spend obscene amounts of money on valueless subscriptions, broken games, scams, artless products, exploitative skinner boxes, infinitely copyable products, gambling, 'to win', FIFA, and imaginary doll clothes.... But they still deserve to have some modern hardware. If we are to believe it's so expensive to box and ship a product in "these trying times" then at least put something decent in the box. The days of everybody panic buying any trash leftover on the shelves are over.
These companies have had nearly 3 years to figure out their supply chain issues. At what point do the stockholders get to start blaming the out-of-control costs of doing business on incompetent management?
How much more will we take until we just find a better hobby?

Money doesn't disappear when you spend it. The only thing that can be certain is that somebody is getting extremely rich off of all this. I want to know who to blame.

I only read the part where you must of lost your mind. Original Nintendo Switch was $299. The new OLED with Splatoon 3 bundle is $359. So you do know bundles don't decrease the cost of the game that it comes with, right? Splatoon 3 is $59.99 just FYI. So Nintendo Switch has not increased in price. This rant you went on is pretty funny. Don't bother replying, I won't be back to read it.

 

[bit_user]

I actually don't think they used a more advance node than what was used.

A quick web search on "PS5 TSMC N6" indicates they managed to procure some N6 wafers they likely used in this version. N6 should be a little cheaper and a little more efficient. Any efficiency improvements will enable them to make cost reductions in the power supply and cooling solution, as well.

Sony has a long history of doing this, most famously in the PS3, which underwent 2 CPU node shrinks (90 nm -> 65 nm -> 45 nm) and 3 GPU node shrinks (90 nm -> 65 nm -> 40 nm -> 28 nm).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_3_technical_specifications#Configurations

I am just going to give the PS5 a pass for the price increase.

Not sure it's any help to you, but the price hasn't (yet) increased in the USA.

BTW, there's a PS5 Pro rumored to launch in 2024.