Soul Sculptor

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hello,

If my opponent has a 'blanchwood armor' on a creature, and I make that
creature into an enchantment with the Soul Sculptor, what would happen to
the enchantment?

Will the enchantment fall off the creature(now an enchantment) and go to the
graveyard.

What would happen to equipmants? do they fall off?

Thank you
Jonathan

 

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Jonathan Fourie wrote:

> hello,
>
> If my opponent has a 'blanchwood armor' on a creature, and I make that
> creature into an enchantment with the Soul Sculptor, what would happen to
> the enchantment?
>
> Will the enchantment fall off the creature(now an enchantment) and go to
> the graveyard.

Yes. From the Comprehensive Rules:

212.4f If a local enchantment is enchanting an illegal permanent or player,
or the permanent or player it was attached to no longer exists, the
enchantment is put into its owner's graveyard. (This is a state-based
effect. See rule 420.)

An Enchant Creature cannot enchant anything that is *not* a Creature.
So if the Creature stops being one, the Enchantment is placed in
the owner's graveyard.
>
> What would happen to equipmants? do they fall off?

They stop equipping the permanent, yes.

212.2g Some artifacts have the subtype "Equipment." An Equipment can be
attached to a creature. It can't legally be attached to an object that isn't
a creature.

and

212.2i An Equipment that's also a creature can't equip a creature. Equipment
that loses the subtype "Equipment" can't equip a creature. An Equipment
can't equip itself. An Equipment that equips an illegal or nonexistent
permanent stops equipping that permanent, but remains in play. (This is a
state-based effect. See rule 420.)

>
> Thank you
> Jonathan

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Jonathan Fourie <jonathan@jonREMOVEathan.za.net> wrote:
>If my opponent has a 'blanchwood armor' on a creature, and I make that
>creature into an enchantment with the Soul Sculptor, what would happen to
>the enchantment?

Gets put into owner's graveyard as a state-based effect, since it's now on
something it can't legally enchant.

>Will the enchantment fall off the creature(now an enchantment) and go to the
>graveyard.

Yes, effectively. If this was an "Enchant Permanent" or a hypothetical "Enchant
Creature Or Enchantment" it could stay on. But an "Enchant Creature" like
Blanchwood Armor can't legally enchant anything that's not a creature.

>What would happen to equipmants? do they fall off?

Yes; equipment can't be attached to something that isn't a creature. As usual,
the equipment just "falls off into play" - it stays in play, rather than going
to the graveyard like enchantments with this problem do. But it becomes
unattached from the no-longer-a-creature.

Dave
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David DeLaney <dbd@gatekeeper.vic.com> wrote:

> Yes, effectively. If this was an "Enchant Permanent" or a hypothetical
> "Enchant Creature Or Enchantment" it could stay on.

A hypothetical "Enchant Creature Or Enchantment" would more probably be
printed as an "Enchant Permanent" with a restriction like Teferi's
Curse.
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Daniel W. Johnson <panoptes@iquest.net> wrote:
>David DeLaney <dbd@gatekeeper.vic.com> wrote:
>
>> Yes, effectively. If this was an "Enchant Permanent" or a hypothetical
>> "Enchant Creature Or Enchantment" it could stay on.
>
>A hypothetical "Enchant Creature Or Enchantment" would more probably be
>printed as an "Enchant Permanent" with a restriction like Teferi's Curse.

Quite probably, yes, thus the H word there.

Dave
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\/David DeLaney posting from dbd@vic.com "It's not the pot that grows the flower
It's not the clock that slows the hour The definition's plain for anyone to see
Love is all it takes to make a family" - R&P. VISUALIZE HAPPYNET VRbeable<BLINK>
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