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We need space games with mighty American heroes who shoot evil aliens
into tiny bits !

That's what people want !
 
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Hell make us the proud american hero in the game. A faceless hero like the
captain in Star trek bridge commander.



"Bruno Beam" <zendo_joystick_ankh_hero@yahoo.com.br> wrote in message
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> We need space games with mighty American heroes who shoot evil aliens
> into tiny bits !
>
> That's what people want !
 
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"Bruno Beam" <zendo_joystick_ankh_hero@yahoo.com.br> wrote in message
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> We need space games with mighty American heroes who shoot evil aliens
> into tiny bits !
>
> That's what people want !

Keep the colonial warmongering twats on planet. The last thing we need is
people with the same mentality as that semi literate chimp bush poxing up
the cosmos..

Les (I thought it was just your leaders and a few redneck idiots... it's not
all of you is it?)
 
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On or about 12/30/2004 1:39:22 PM, Les & Claire
<les.clairefrontal@lobesvirgin.net> said:
> "Bruno Beam" <zendo_joystick_ankh_hero@yahoo.com.br> wrote in message
> news:9f63c9ae.0412142322.171fe79@posting.google.com...
>> We need space games with mighty American heroes who shoot evil aliens
>> into tiny bits !
>>
>> That's what people want !
>
> Keep the colonial warmongering twats on planet. The last thing we need is
> people with the same mentality as that semi literate chimp bush poxing up
> the cosmos..
>
> Les (I thought it was just your leaders and a few redneck idiots... it's not
> all of you is it?)

Please stand by ... the Collective will respond momentarily ...

Bret
 
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So you are saying there are no Republicans in space?


On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 10:38:30 -0800, Bret Ripley <ripley@olywa.net>
wrote:

>On or about 12/30/2004 1:39:22 PM, Les & Claire
><les.clairefrontal@lobesvirgin.net> said:
>> "Bruno Beam" <zendo_joystick_ankh_hero@yahoo.com.br> wrote in message
>> news:9f63c9ae.0412142322.171fe79@posting.google.com...
>>> We need space games with mighty American heroes who shoot evil aliens
>>> into tiny bits !
>>>
>>> That's what people want !
>>
>> Keep the colonial warmongering twats on planet. The last thing we need is
>> people with the same mentality as that semi literate chimp bush poxing up
>> the cosmos..
>>
>> Les (I thought it was just your leaders and a few redneck idiots... it's not
>> all of you is it?)
>
>Please stand by ... the Collective will respond momentarily ...
>
>Bret
 
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On or about 12/30/2004 12:00:27 PM, Allan Parent
<allanp@nospamforme123.charter.net> said:
> So you are saying there are no Republicans in space?

There are. And if it weren't for their lack of AI, they would be largely
indistinguishable from the asteroids.

Bret
 
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"Bret Ripley" <ripley@olywa.net> wrote in message
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> On or about 12/30/2004 1:39:22 PM, Les & Claire
> <les.clairefrontal@lobesvirgin.net> said:
>> "Bruno Beam" <zendo_joystick_ankh_hero@yahoo.com.br> wrote in message
>> news:9f63c9ae.0412142322.171fe79@posting.google.com...
>>> We need space games with mighty American heroes who shoot evil aliens
>>> into tiny bits !
>>>
>>> That's what people want !
>>
>> Keep the colonial warmongering twats on planet. The last thing we need
>> is
>> people with the same mentality as that semi literate chimp bush poxing up
>> the cosmos..
>>
>> Les (I thought it was just your leaders and a few redneck idiots... it's
>> not
>> all of you is it?)
>
> Please stand by ... the Collective will respond momentarily ...
>
> Bret

Yep! Standard replies would include, "Remember we bailed you out in
WWII!" and "We don't care that no one likes us 'cos we gonna whup your sorry
ass!"

Bloody Colonials! saving the world by destroying it...

Les
 
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On or about 12/30/2004 8:12:46 PM, Les & Claire
<les.clairefrontal@lobesvirgin.net> said:
> "Bret Ripley" <ripley@olywa.net> wrote in message
> news:ux1rixxoipzk.115d4kus4avlu$.dlg@40tude.net...
>> On or about 12/30/2004 1:39:22 PM, Les & Claire
>> <les.clairefrontal@lobesvirgin.net> said:
>>> "Bruno Beam" <zendo_joystick_ankh_hero@yahoo.com.br> wrote in message
>>> news:9f63c9ae.0412142322.171fe79@posting.google.com...
>>>> We need space games with mighty American heroes who shoot evil aliens
>>>> into tiny bits !
>>>>
>>>> That's what people want !
>>>
>>> Keep the colonial warmongering twats on planet. The last thing we need
>>> is
>>> people with the same mentality as that semi literate chimp bush poxing up
>>> the cosmos..
>>>
>>> Les (I thought it was just your leaders and a few redneck idiots... it's
>>> not
>>> all of you is it?)
>>
>> Please stand by ... the Collective will respond momentarily ...
>>
>> Bret
>
> Yep! Standard replies would include, "Remember we bailed you out in
> WWII!"

Why, are you Filipino?

Anyway: "The trouble with the Yanks is they're overpaid, oversexed, and
over here," while "the trouble with the Brits is they're underpaid,
undersexed, and under Eisenhower."

Besides, if anyone did any "bailing out" of anyone in European Theater
WWII, it was the Russians.

> and "We don't care that no one likes us 'cos we gonna whup your sorry
> ass!"

Psssst: your strawman is spouting non sequiturs.

> Bloody Colonials! saving the world by destroying it...

Well, when you put it that way it *does* sound a bit daft. Thank goodness
you pointed out that fly in the ointment. For single-handedly rescuing the
human race from destruction, I think I speak for everyone here when I offer
you a hearty, all caps "THANK YOU".

Oh, and don't go spending all that moral capital in one place, a-ight?

Bret
 
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On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 20:12:46 -0000, "Les & Claire"
<les.clairefrontal@lobesvirgin.net> wrote:

>
>
>
>"Bret Ripley" <ripley@olywa.net> wrote in message
>news:ux1rixxoipzk.115d4kus4avlu$.dlg@40tude.net...
>> On or about 12/30/2004 1:39:22 PM, Les & Claire
>> <les.clairefrontal@lobesvirgin.net> said:
>>> "Bruno Beam" <zendo_joystick_ankh_hero@yahoo.com.br> wrote in message
>>> news:9f63c9ae.0412142322.171fe79@posting.google.com...
>>>> We need space games with mighty American heroes who shoot evil aliens
>>>> into tiny bits !
>>>>
>>>> That's what people want !
>>>
>>> Keep the colonial warmongering twats on planet. The last thing we need
>>> is
>>> people with the same mentality as that semi literate chimp bush poxing up
>>> the cosmos..
>>>
>>> Les (I thought it was just your leaders and a few redneck idiots... it's
>>> not
>>> all of you is it?)
>>
>> Please stand by ... the Collective will respond momentarily ...
>>
>> Bret
>
> Yep! Standard replies would include, "Remember we bailed you out in
>WWII!" and "We don't care that no one likes us 'cos we gonna whup your sorry
>ass!"
>
> Bloody Colonials! saving the world by destroying it...
>
>Les
>

The main point you seem to exclude is that through-out world history,
most (if not all) of the major advances in civilization have been made
by us "Bloody Colonials"! From the Greeks, China, Rome, The Brits,
France, all the way through to present day America! Seems to me that
war-mongering is in fact pretty beneficial to the over-all human
condition, since most of these advances are a direct result of warfare
and colonialism.

Surely they have a library in your town? Hell, you even have the
freakin' internet thanks to us "bloody colonials"! Perhaps some
learning is in order on your part. I mean, this planet can only
sustain so many people!

I'm quite confident that when we start colonizing the outer reaches,
us bloody colonials will advance even further (provided we don't
exterminate ourselves before we get that far). But, everything has a
price and everything worth having is worth dying for.

I assume that you'd be happy still living in a mud hut, hunting
rabbits and carrying water on your back! Move to Russia and STFU! =P

LONG LIVE THE INFIDELS! =D
 
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Wait, are you saying God is a republican? I thought he was from
Canada?


On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 21:41:30 GMT, Shingen
<shingen@aolsuks.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>Also, if you want to see real cruelty and barbarism, apply your
>worthless morality to the natural world. Spend a few week out in the
>wild and you'll see true violence and death.
>
>God made violence and death, war and colonialism for a reason. He
>isn't stupid. Get and life, pull your head out of your ass, and get a
>clue!
>
>OK. I'm done for now.. I need another beer. =P
 
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Bret Ripley <ripley@olywa.net> writes:

> On or about 12/30/2004 12:00:27 PM, Allan Parent
> <allanp@nospamforme123.charter.net> said:
>> So you are saying there are no Republicans in space?
>
> There are. And if it weren't for their lack of AI, they would be largely
> indistinguishable from the asteroids.

Was that an "yer random frozen hunk of rock and ice is smarter than the
average republican" gibe there?

I do hope so
😀

--
James jamesk[at]homeric[dot]co[dot]uk

"...Understanding is a three-edged sword." (Amb. Kosh, B5 "Deathwalker")
 
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On or about 12/30/2004 1:23:11 PM, Kegs <james.keasley@gmail.invalid> said:
> Bret Ripley <ripley@olywa.net> writes:
>
>> On or about 12/30/2004 12:00:27 PM, Allan Parent
>> <allanp@nospamforme123.charter.net> said:
>>> So you are saying there are no Republicans in space?
>>
>> There are. And if it weren't for their lack of AI, they would be largely
>> indistinguishable from the asteroids.
>
> Was that an "yer random frozen hunk of rock and ice is smarter than the
> average republican" gibe there?

I am torn between two responses:

"I didn't mean it that way, but I can see how you could interpret it that
way."

And,

"Did I stutter?"

> I do hope so
> 😀

OK, then, just for you: Did I stutter?

Bret
 
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>>
>> Bloody Colonials! saving the world by destroying it...
>>
>>Les
>>
>
> The main point you seem to exclude is that through-out world history,
> most (if not all) of the major advances in civilization have been made
> by us "Bloody Colonials"! From the Greeks, China, Rome, The Brits,
> France, all the way through to present day America! Seems to me that
> war-mongering is in fact pretty beneficial to the over-all human
> condition, since most of these advances are a direct result of warfare
> and colonialism.
>
> Surely they have a library in your town? Hell, you even have the
> freakin' internet thanks to us "bloody colonials"!

I think you'll find that Tim Berners-Lee was a brit. He took it from a
basically military net to the WWW.
Also, I agree with "selection by diaspora". It has happened many times. The
people with the get up and go generally do. But it's the current "New World
Order" headed by your president and backed up with military force supplied
by the US that is the most dangerous thing on the planet at the moment. If
this way of thinking, the republican "world view" should be the one that is
taken with us into the next frontier it would be a calamity.
The US at the moment is a truly vile representation of humanity.
Arrogance, stupidity, violence, intolerance and Christian Fundamentalism are
not the values I would wish humans to take with them when we finally leave
the nursery. And to say you would die to uphold this mindset might just
solve the problem. Darwinism working....

Les

Perhaps some
> learning is in order on your part. I mean, this planet can only
> sustain so many people!
>
> I'm quite confident that when we start colonizing the outer reaches,
> us bloody colonials will advance even further (provided we don't
> exterminate ourselves before we get that far). But, everything has a
> price and everything worth having is worth dying for.
>
> I assume that you'd be happy still living in a mud hut, hunting
> rabbits and carrying water on your back! Move to Russia and STFU! =P
>
> LONG LIVE THE INFIDELS! =D
 
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On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 21:32:46 -0000, "Les & Claire"
<les.clairefrontal@lobesvirgin.net> wrote:

>
>
>>>
>>> Bloody Colonials! saving the world by destroying it...
>>>
>>>Les
>>>
>>
>> The main point you seem to exclude is that through-out world history,
>> most (if not all) of the major advances in civilization have been made
>> by us "Bloody Colonials"! From the Greeks, China, Rome, The Brits,
>> France, all the way through to present day America! Seems to me that
>> war-mongering is in fact pretty beneficial to the over-all human
>> condition, since most of these advances are a direct result of warfare
>> and colonialism.
>>
>> Surely they have a library in your town? Hell, you even have the
>> freakin' internet thanks to us "bloody colonials"!
>
>I think you'll find that Tim Berners-Lee was a brit. He took it from a
>basically military net to the WWW.
> Also, I agree with "selection by diaspora". It has happened many times. The
>people with the get up and go generally do. But it's the current "New World
>Order" headed by your president and backed up with military force supplied
>by the US that is the most dangerous thing on the planet at the moment. If
>this way of thinking, the republican "world view" should be the one that is
>taken with us into the next frontier it would be a calamity.
> The US at the moment is a truly vile representation of humanity.
>Arrogance, stupidity, violence, intolerance and Christian Fundamentalism are
>not the values I would wish humans to take with them when we finally leave
>the nursery. And to say you would die to uphold this mindset might just
>solve the problem. Darwinism working....
>
>Les
>
Thought I agree whith certain views you have.. overall, I think you
are short-sighted ( no offense ). Nothing in this world ever happens
in a decade or a century.

America is and has been the best thing that ever happened to this
world, based on the Christian Fundamental ideal, and secure in the
fact the best way to rule is with a very large stick!
> Perhaps some
>> learning is in order on your part. I mean, this planet can only
>> sustain so many people!
>>
>> I'm quite confident that when we start colonizing the outer reaches,
>> us bloody colonials will advance even further (provided we don't
>> exterminate ourselves before we get that far). But, everything has a
>> price and everything worth having is worth dying for.
>>
>> I assume that you'd be happy still living in a mud hut, hunting
>> rabbits and carrying water on your back! Move to Russia and STFU! =P
>>
>> LONG LIVE THE INFIDELS! =D
>
 
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On or about 12/30/2004 1:46:11 PM, Shingen <shingen@aolsuks.sbcglobal.net>
said:
> On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 21:32:46 -0000, "Les & Claire"
> <les.clairefrontal@lobesvirgin.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>>>
>>>> Bloody Colonials! saving the world by destroying it...
>>>>
>>>>Les
>>>>
>>>
>>> The main point you seem to exclude is that through-out world history,
>>> most (if not all) of the major advances in civilization have been made
>>> by us "Bloody Colonials"! From the Greeks, China, Rome, The Brits,
>>> France, all the way through to present day America! Seems to me that
>>> war-mongering is in fact pretty beneficial to the over-all human
>>> condition, since most of these advances are a direct result of warfare
>>> and colonialism.
>>>
>>> Surely they have a library in your town? Hell, you even have the
>>> freakin' internet thanks to us "bloody colonials"!
>>
>>I think you'll find that Tim Berners-Lee was a brit. He took it from a
>>basically military net to the WWW.
>> Also, I agree with "selection by diaspora". It has happened many times. The
>>people with the get up and go generally do. But it's the current "New World
>>Order" headed by your president and backed up with military force supplied
>>by the US that is the most dangerous thing on the planet at the moment. If
>>this way of thinking, the republican "world view" should be the one that is
>>taken with us into the next frontier it would be a calamity.
>> The US at the moment is a truly vile representation of humanity.
>>Arrogance, stupidity, violence, intolerance and Christian Fundamentalism are
>>not the values I would wish humans to take with them when we finally leave
>>the nursery. And to say you would die to uphold this mindset might just
>>solve the problem. Darwinism working....
>>
>>Les
>>
> Thought I agree whith certain views you have.. overall, I think you
> are short-sighted ( no offense ).

If I may be allowed an observation, Shin: one more beer wasn't nearly
enough.

> Nothing in this world ever happens
> in a decade or a century.
>
> America is and has been the best thing that ever happened to this
> world, based on the Christian Fundamental ideal, and secure in the
> fact the best way to rule is with a very large stick!

I hope you won't take this badly, Shingen, but the more you talk the more I
suspect I am a closet Canadian.

>> Perhaps some
>>> learning is in order on your part. I mean, this planet can only
>>> sustain so many people!
>>>
>>> I'm quite confident that when we start colonizing the outer reaches,
>>> us bloody colonials will advance even further (provided we don't
>>> exterminate ourselves before we get that far). But, everything has a
>>> price and everything worth having is worth dying for.
>>>
>>> I assume that you'd be happy still living in a mud hut, hunting
>>> rabbits and carrying water on your back! Move to Russia and STFU! =P
>>>
>>> LONG LIVE THE INFIDELS! =D

(Nothing to see here -- apparently we're middle-posting today).

Bret
 
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On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 21:32:46 -0000, "Les & Claire"
<les.clairefrontal@lobesvirgin.net> wrote:


>
>I think you'll find that Tim Berners-Lee was a brit. He took it from a
>basically military net to the WWW.

I'm sure you meant; "a basically AMERICAN military net to the WWW"
>
 
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On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 17:00:05 -0600, Allan Parent
<allanp@nospamforme123.charter.net> wrote:

>Wait, are you saying God is a republican? I thought he was from
>Canada?

Actually, God is a realist. War and death are a natural fact of Life.

Please stop top posting.. you are confusing my alcohol-induced
mentality. =P
 
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"Shingen" <shingen@aolsuks.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> What part of history do you read?? "The US at the moment is a truly
> vile representation of humanity. Arrogance, stupidity, violence,
> intolerance and Christian Fundamentalism are not the values I would
> wish humans to take with them when we finally leave the nursery."

This is unfortunately a reasonable and widely held view outside the USA. It
appears to only be getting worse. This is a direct result of Geroge Bush's
war mongering. His arrogance at believing that it is his right to pursue
personal vengence around the world. Note that stupidity, violence,
intolerance, and Christian Fundamentalism also fit well with the views that
are widespread and associated with Bush and the USA around the world. Heck
many within the USA have adopted that view themselves. Like myself after
finding out the truth as to why Bush invaded Iraq.
 
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On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 15:19:08 GMT, "Bill Huffman" <bhuffma1@san.rr.com>
wrote:

>
>"Shingen" <shingen@aolsuks.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>news:eav8t0teuocv27a7tr5lb4971lgmk7cjv1@4ax.com...
>
>> What part of history do you read?? "The US at the moment is a truly
>> vile representation of humanity. Arrogance, stupidity, violence,
>> intolerance and Christian Fundamentalism are not the values I would
>> wish humans to take with them when we finally leave the nursery."
>
>This is unfortunately a reasonable and widely held view outside the USA. It
>appears to only be getting worse. This is a direct result of Geroge Bush's
>war mongering. His arrogance at believing that it is his right to pursue
>personal vengence around the world. Note that stupidity, violence,
>intolerance, and Christian Fundamentalism also fit well with the views that
>are widespread and associated with Bush and the USA around the world. Heck
>many within the USA have adopted that view themselves. Like myself after
>finding out the truth as to why Bush invaded Iraq.
>


What I really find disconcerting is that we are a superpower with all
of the high tech gadgetry, well-trained troops and equipment but we
totally dropped the ball on the WMD's in Iraq along with its post-war
administration. WMD's were the pretense for invading Iraq after all.
Once we defeated the Iraqi forces we find no WMD's. We also did not
foresee potential for civil war and the escalation of insurgent
activity. We also underestimated the number of troops needed to keep
civil order and now we are forced to send reservists(part-time
solders) to Iraq. To further compound the problem, we force these
reservist to stay on active duty for longer and longer periods of time
thus causing financial hardship on their families. Yes, the law says
they cannot lose their jobs while on active duty but they do not get
paid by their former companies either. It is just scary to think our
government planned so poorly for a post-war Iraq. It seems we would
have been better served by using these assets against bin-laden in
Afghanistan.
 
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On or about 12/31/2004 8:43:06 AM, Allan Parent
<allanp@nospamforme123.charter.net> said:
> On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 15:19:08 GMT, "Bill Huffman" <bhuffma1@san.rr.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Shingen" <shingen@aolsuks.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>>news:eav8t0teuocv27a7tr5lb4971lgmk7cjv1@4ax.com...
>>
>>> What part of history do you read?? "The US at the moment is a truly
>>> vile representation of humanity. Arrogance, stupidity, violence,
>>> intolerance and Christian Fundamentalism are not the values I would
>>> wish humans to take with them when we finally leave the nursery."
>>
>>This is unfortunately a reasonable and widely held view outside the USA. It
>>appears to only be getting worse. This is a direct result of Geroge Bush's
>>war mongering. His arrogance at believing that it is his right to pursue
>>personal vengence around the world. Note that stupidity, violence,
>>intolerance, and Christian Fundamentalism also fit well with the views that
>>are widespread and associated with Bush and the USA around the world. Heck
>>many within the USA have adopted that view themselves. Like myself after
>>finding out the truth as to why Bush invaded Iraq.
>>
>
> What I really find disconcerting is that we are a superpower with all
> of the high tech gadgetry, well-trained troops and equipment but we
> totally dropped the ball on the WMD's in Iraq along with its post-war
> administration. WMD's were the pretense for invading Iraq after all.
> Once we defeated the Iraqi forces we find no WMD's. We also did not
> foresee potential for civil war and the escalation of insurgent
> activity. We also underestimated the number of troops needed to keep
> civil order and now we are forced to send reservists(part-time
> solders) to Iraq. To further compound the problem, we force these
> reservist to stay on active duty for longer and longer periods of time
> thus causing financial hardship on their families. Yes, the law says
> they cannot lose their jobs while on active duty but they do not get
> paid by their former companies either. It is just scary to think our
> government planned so poorly for a post-war Iraq. It seems we would
> have been better served by using these assets against bin-laden in
> Afghanistan.

Careful, Allan. You're status as token stereotypical Texan is in danger.

I mean, you're completely correct, of course. But the simple fact is that
you can't be both correct and Texan.

Bret
 
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"Bill Huffman" <bhuffma1@san.rr.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Shingen" <shingen@aolsuks.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:eav8t0teuocv27a7tr5lb4971lgmk7cjv1@4ax.com...
>
>> What part of history do you read?? "The US at the moment is a truly
>> vile representation of humanity. Arrogance, stupidity, violence,
>> intolerance and Christian Fundamentalism are not the values I would
>> wish humans to take with them when we finally leave the nursery."
>
> This is unfortunately a reasonable and widely held view outside the USA.
> It
> appears to only be getting worse. This is a direct result of Geroge Bush's
> war mongering. His arrogance at believing that it is his right to pursue
> personal vengence around the world. Note that stupidity, violence,
> intolerance, and Christian Fundamentalism also fit well with the views
> that
> are widespread and associated with Bush and the USA around the world. Heck
> many within the USA have adopted that view themselves. Like myself after
> finding out the truth as to why Bush invaded Iraq.
>
>

Well said Bill. I think the telling thing is the comments Americans make
on leaving their country and are away from the fox news, cnn and all those
other state controlled news outputs. They are truly shocked at the real
feelings of the rest of the planet. Americans are fed a line that is far
removed from reality.

Les
 
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On or about 12/31/2004 4:15:38 PM, Les & Claire
<les.clairefrontal@lobesvirgin.net> said:
> "Bill Huffman" <bhuffma1@san.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:M5eBd.42897$Ew6.12352@twister.socal.rr.com...
>>
>> "Shingen" <shingen@aolsuks.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>> news:eav8t0teuocv27a7tr5lb4971lgmk7cjv1@4ax.com...
>>
>>> What part of history do you read?? "The US at the moment is a truly
>>> vile representation of humanity. Arrogance, stupidity, violence,
>>> intolerance and Christian Fundamentalism are not the values I would
>>> wish humans to take with them when we finally leave the nursery."
>>
>> This is unfortunately a reasonable and widely held view outside the USA.
>> It
>> appears to only be getting worse. This is a direct result of Geroge Bush's
>> war mongering. His arrogance at believing that it is his right to pursue
>> personal vengence around the world. Note that stupidity, violence,
>> intolerance, and Christian Fundamentalism also fit well with the views
>> that
>> are widespread and associated with Bush and the USA around the world. Heck
>> many within the USA have adopted that view themselves. Like myself after
>> finding out the truth as to why Bush invaded Iraq.
>>
>>
>
> Well said Bill. I think the telling thing is the comments Americans make
> on leaving their country and are away from the fox news, cnn and all those
> other state controlled news outputs.

CNN and Fox News are not state-controlled. Rather, they are "controlled"
by the same financial interests that exert a considerable amount of
influence on current US policy.

> They are truly shocked at the real
> feelings of the rest of the planet. Americans are fed a line that is far
> removed from reality.

Look, Les, I think most Americans realize that certain policies aren't very
popular. As an American that frequently travels outside the US, I know I
am keenly aware of this sentiment.

Please keep in mind that the US just went through a very close and divisive
election. Almost half of the voting public opted for a change of
administration. With this in mind, don't you think it is just a tad silly
to make sweeping, general statements in caricature of American public
opinion?

Bret
 
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On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 09:11:45 -0800, Bret Ripley <ripley@olywa.net>
wrote:

>On or about 12/31/2004 8:43:06 AM, Allan Parent
><allanp@nospamforme123.charter.net> said:
>> On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 15:19:08 GMT, "Bill Huffman" <bhuffma1@san.rr.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>

>Careful, Allan. You're status as token stereotypical Texan is in danger.
>
>I mean, you're completely correct, of course. But the simple fact is that
>you can't be both correct and Texan.
>
>Bret

Oops. Sorry. I must keep up appearances......damn eurofag, pansy
girlie men. There, is that better?
 
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On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 16:31:28 -0600, Allan Parent wrote:

> On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 09:11:45 -0800, Bret Ripley <ripley@olywa.net>
> wrote:
>
>>On or about 12/31/2004 8:43:06 AM, Allan Parent
>><allanp@nospamforme123.charter.net> said:
>>> On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 15:19:08 GMT, "Bill Huffman" <bhuffma1@san.rr.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>
>>Careful, Allan. You're status as token stereotypical Texan is in danger.
>>
>>I mean, you're completely correct, of course. But the simple fact is that
>>you can't be both correct and Texan.
>>
>>Bret
>
> Oops. Sorry. I must keep up appearances......damn eurofag, pansy
> girlie men. There, is that better?

You forgot "surrender-monkey". But yes, that's better.

Bret
 
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The only reason you went into Iraq was bushes personal revenge and oil. All
the problems in Iraq are of your own making. If you'd left it at Afghanistan
and Bin Laden then you would have held the worlds respect.
Now you just look foolish.

Les

"Allan Parent" <allanp@nospamforme123.charter.net> wrote in message
news:v5vat0hmv5fgeq6drfjgn71u5g5aur5ut5@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 15:19:08 GMT, "Bill Huffman" <bhuffma1@san.rr.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Shingen" <shingen@aolsuks.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>>news:eav8t0teuocv27a7tr5lb4971lgmk7cjv1@4ax.com...
>>
>>> What part of history do you read?? "The US at the moment is a truly
>>> vile representation of humanity. Arrogance, stupidity, violence,
>>> intolerance and Christian Fundamentalism are not the values I would
>>> wish humans to take with them when we finally leave the nursery."
>>
>>This is unfortunately a reasonable and widely held view outside the USA.
>>It
>>appears to only be getting worse. This is a direct result of Geroge Bush's
>>war mongering. His arrogance at believing that it is his right to pursue
>>personal vengence around the world. Note that stupidity, violence,
>>intolerance, and Christian Fundamentalism also fit well with the views
>>that
>>are widespread and associated with Bush and the USA around the world. Heck
>>many within the USA have adopted that view themselves. Like myself after
>>finding out the truth as to why Bush invaded Iraq.
>>
>
>
> What I really find disconcerting is that we are a superpower with all
> of the high tech gadgetry, well-trained troops and equipment but we
> totally dropped the ball on the WMD's in Iraq along with its post-war
> administration. WMD's were the pretense for invading Iraq after all.
> Once we defeated the Iraqi forces we find no WMD's. We also did not
> foresee potential for civil war and the escalation of insurgent
> activity. We also underestimated the number of troops needed to keep
> civil order and now we are forced to send reservists(part-time
> solders) to Iraq. To further compound the problem, we force these
> reservist to stay on active duty for longer and longer periods of time
> thus causing financial hardship on their families. Yes, the law says
> they cannot lose their jobs while on active duty but they do not get
> paid by their former companies either. It is just scary to think our
> government planned so poorly for a post-war Iraq. It seems we would
> have been better served by using these assets against bin-laden in
> Afghanistan.
 
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