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You're not just a faceless nobody. You're not just a spinning gear in
somebody else's heartless clockwork. No! You have a mind and a soul, a
self that is authentic and unique. Your perspective is a gift that you
can bestow on the world, something nobody else can give.

Celebrate the power of your inimitable point of view and make your voice
heard by writing a review for SPAG. Burgeoning bevies of IF games are
waiting for you to articulate your reactions, and SPAG's readers are
anticipating, hoping, waiting to know what you think about that game you
just played. Don't deny them your gift!

The deadline for issue #38 is September 5th.

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Make your voice heard by contributing a review to issue #38 of SPAG!
The deadline for this issue is September 5th, 2004.
 
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I'm lazy and forgetful, what's the Dave Letterman (TM)-style top ten list of
games that need to be reviewed? I've been meaning to do this for a while
now.

--

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Why settle for the lesser evil? Cthulhu for president!
"Paul O'Brian" <obrian@ucsu.colorado.edu> wrote in message
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> You're not just a faceless nobody. You're not just a spinning gear in
> somebody else's heartless clockwork. No! You have a mind and a soul, a
> self that is authentic and unique. Your perspective is a gift that you
> can bestow on the world, something nobody else can give.
>
> Celebrate the power of your inimitable point of view and make your voice
> heard by writing a review for SPAG. Burgeoning bevies of IF games are
> waiting for you to articulate your reactions, and SPAG's readers are
> anticipating, hoping, waiting to know what you think about that game you
> just played. Don't deny them your gift!
>
> The deadline for issue #38 is September 5th.
>
> --
> Paul O'Brian obrian@colorado.edu http://ucsu.colorado.edu/~obrian
> Make your voice heard by contributing a review to issue #38 of SPAG!
> The deadline for this issue is September 5th, 2004.
 
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"James Bond" <wildblinker007@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> I'm lazy and forgetful, what's the Dave Letterman (TM)-style top ten list
of
> games that need to be reviewed? I've been meaning to do this for a while
> now.
>

1. Curse of the Dragon Shrine
2. Dead Reckoning
3. 1893: A World's Fair Mystery
4. Heist
5. IF Art Show 2004 games (any, some, or all!)
6. Max Blaster and Doris de Lightning Against the Parrot Creatures of Venus
7. Narcolepsy
8. Necrotic Drift
9. Return To Ditch Day
10. Unease
 
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"David Whyld" <me@dwhyld.plus.com> wrote in message news:<41267548$0$93476$ed2e19e4@ptn-nntp-reader04.plus.net>...
> "James Bond" <wildblinker007@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:10icros12bjjc5d@corp.supernews.com...
> > I'm lazy and forgetful, what's the Dave Letterman (TM)-style top ten list
> of
> > games that need to be reviewed? I've been meaning to do this for a while
> > now.
> >
>
> 1. Curse of the Dragon Shrine
> 2. Dead Reckoning
> 3. 1893: A World's Fair Mystery
> 4. Heist
> 5. IF Art Show 2004 games (any, some, or all!)
> 6. Max Blaster and Doris de Lightning Against the Parrot Creatures of Venus
> 7. Narcolepsy
> 8. Necrotic Drift
> 9. Return To Ditch Day
> 10. Unease

Shoudn't Pentari: First light be on the list? I'd really like to see a
serious review of the full version someday.
 
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"David Whyld" <me@dwhyld.plus.com> wrote in message news:<41267548$0$93476$ed2e19e4@ptn-nntp-reader04.plus.net>...
> "James Bond" <wildblinker007@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:10icros12bjjc5d@corp.supernews.com...
> > I'm lazy and forgetful, what's the Dave Letterman (TM)-style top ten list
> of
> > games that need to be reviewed? I've been meaning to do this for a while
> > now.
> >
>
> 1. Curse of the Dragon Shrine
> 2. Dead Reckoning
> 3. 1893: A World's Fair Mystery
> 4. Heist
> 5. IF Art Show 2004 games (any, some, or all!)
> 6. Max Blaster and Doris de Lightning Against the Parrot Creatures of Venus
> 7. Narcolepsy
> 8. Necrotic Drift
> 9. Return To Ditch Day
> 10. Unease

Does anyone know who the author of Dead Reckoning (no. 2) is?
 
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Bob_Woodward <soenke_k@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> "James Bond" <wildblinker007@hotmail.com> wrote...
>>> I'm lazy and forgetful, what's the Dave Letterman (TM)-style top
>>> ten list of
>>> games that need to be reviewed? I've been meaning to do this for a
>>> while now.
>>>
[snip list]
>
> Shoudn't Pentari: First light be on the list? I'd really like to see a
> serious review of the full version someday.

I'm not sure where the games on the list come from, but if it were open to
debate, I would disagree that P:FL "should" be on the list. Some reviews:

http://www.justadventure.com/reviews/Pentari/Pentari.shtm gives it an A.
http://www.pcgameworld.com/game.php/id/1590/Pentari:_First_Light/ uses two
exclamation points.

My serious review of the Demo version is written more for today's IF
community, unlike the above reviews:
http://www.strangebreezes.com/if/reviews/pentaridemo.html

The 16 people who voted on it at www.ifratings.com give it an average of
1.5:
http://www.carouselchain.com/if/index.php?searchtitle=pentari
The comments on that site might be worth reading as a review.

Jess
 
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Jessica,

When you said "My serious review of the Demo version is written more
for today's IF community, unlike the above reviews" what, exactly, did
you mean?

Why does YOUR amateurish review (amateurish by your own admission on
your own website) nullify the reviews of TWO professional sources?

What's more sad is how you trumpet your review of a FIRST RELEASE DEMO
and say it is more authoritative than reviews made by people who
actually played the entire game right to the end. What were you
thinking, sweetheart?

Who appointed YOU the official spokesperson for the Interactive
Fiction community, anyway?

How can YOU speak for today's IF community for that matter?

My dear Jessica, I am the one who sets the tone and standards for
today's IF community.

Right now I am exhibiting Malinche titles at GenCon in Indianapolis.
Because of my efforts and my efforts alone, I am putting Interactive
Fiction in front of over 25,000 people.

I'm doing it again at DragonCon in Atlanta in two weeks where I will
present Interactive Fiction to another 25,000 people.

In October I am presenting Interactive Fiction to about 250,000 people
at the New York City Book Festival.

All in all, I will have put Interactive Fiction in front of over
400,000 people at the venues I attend this year alone.

I won't even bother to explore all the exposure I've generated through
front-page newspaper articles, radio interviews, my website, etc. etc.

What do YOU do for the IF community apart from being obnoxious and
manipulative?

With all of the people I've met out there, some startling observations
have been made.

When everybody OUTSIDE of these two newsgroups played BOFH it earned
rave reviews and has become a cult classic. In stark contrast, BOFH
rated somewhere towards the bottom of the list in IF Comp 2002. Isn't
it funny that THOUSANDS of people enjoy BOFH despite its low ranking
by just a few people? I think it's hysterical. I was signing
autographs today for people who thought it was so cool to meet the guy
who wrote BOFH.

I've come to the conclusion quite some time ago that these two
newsgroups and the websites that extend from them are some sort of
Bizarro world of inverse operations. (e.g. good is bad, evil is good,
dark is light, etc. etc.) No other theory explains how thousands upon
thousands of people OUTSIDE of the Bizarro world of these newsgroups
and related websites love my work and bless all things Malinche while
the very small population of Bizarro world holds the majority view
that my work is garbage.

Poor Mr. Panks has almost gone into seizures trying to convince all of
you his work is good. OUTSIDE of Bizaro world his works are quite
good. In the twisted little universe in here, his work is trash. The
poor man must be on the verge of a breakdown. I hope this message
reaches him in time.

A very elite club with a tiny membership can co-exist both in Bizarro
world and the real world and retain their sense of equilibrium. I
think they know who they are. <wink>

Here's a glimpse of the real world outside of the twisted, bizarre
world you and many others choose to live in.

When attendees sat down at my booth at GenCon and tried First Light,
the uninitiated were curious at trying something new. They walked
away converted with their new Malinche games in hand. They obviously
thought my games were good enough to pay for, especially when they can
spend their money at dozens of different booths offering every kind of
game imaginable.

When Infocom fans froze in front of my booth and saw that brand new
commercial IF is back on the market they were dumbfounded. A couple
of die-hard fans were looking for prayer mats to place in front of my
booth. No prayer mats could be found in the convention hall so they
proceeded to try out my games. A number of people clearly enjoyed
themselves as they made their way through First Light, Greystone and
Endgame. Seeing the packaged software, complete with feelies, sparked
them anew. Everyone was happy to have me autograph their games. They
left happy and content. Only good products can do that, darling.

Pentari: First Light was the biggest seller at the show. Greystone was
a very close second.

Obviously, First Light must be good if people played the full version
and then made a decision to purchase the game to take home away with
them.

I'm not going to operate in PanksMode and attempt to persuade you or
anyone else here that my work is good. I know my work is good. The
masses outside Bizarro world know this also. Like usual, my purpose
here is to present the facts and correct the horrendous inaccuracies.
Facts and truth are too powerful for the forces of chaos in Bizarro
World. You and the others of your kind are rendered powerless against
them.

Also as usual, I am not going to bother to check for responses. The
posts tend to be one sided and more than occasionally border on the
hysterical. I expect that to be doubly-true of anything you have to
say.

If Mister Woodward would care to make up his own mind about things, I
invite him to my website at http://www.malinche.net and let him judge
for himself. I extend that invitation to anyone with an open,
non-negative mind.

Everyone is invitied to visit http://www.malinche.net and take a look
around. Read all the testimonials and game reviews. Look at
everything. Try out the demos. And then decide for yourselves. Don't
let the forces of this Bizarro world hold sway over you.

Howard Sherman
Implementor
http://www.malinche.net
Live on location in Indianapolis











----- Original Message -----
From: "Jess Knoch" <jessicaknoch@mindspring.com>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.int-fiction,rec.games.int-fiction
Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2004 1:05 PM
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> Bob_Woodward <soenke_k@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> "James Bond" <wildblinker007@hotmail.com> wrote...
> >>> I'm lazy and forgetful, what's the Dave Letterman (TM)-style top
> >>> ten list of
> >>> games that need to be reviewed? I've been meaning to do this for a
> >>> while now.
> >>>
> [snip list]
> >
> > Shoudn't Pentari: First light be on the list? I'd really like to see a
> > serious review of the full version someday.
>
> I'm not sure where the games on the list come from, but if it were open to
> debate, I would disagree that P:FL "should" be on the list. Some reviews:
>
> http://www.justadventure.com/reviews/Pentari/Pentari.shtm gives it an A.
> http://www.pcgameworld.com/game.php/id/1590/Pentari:_First_Light/ uses two
> exclamation points.
>
> My serious review of the Demo version is written more for today's IF
> community, unlike the above reviews:
> http://www.strangebreezes.com/if/reviews/pentaridemo.html
>
> The 16 people who voted on it at www.ifratings.com give it an average of
> 1.5:
> http://www.carouselchain.com/if/index.php?searchtitle=pentari
> The comments on that site might be worth reading as a review.
>
> Jess
>
>



>
> Shoudn't Pentari: First light be on the list? I'd really like to see a
> serious review of the full version someday.
 
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Woodfish wrote:
> Does anyone know who the author of Dead Reckoning (no. 2) is?

It's by Nick Montfort (the English translation) and Andres
Viedma Pelaez (the Spanish original).

David
 
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On 21 Aug 2004 14:30:35 -0700, Woodfish <driftersmonthly@hotmail.com> wrote:
> "David Whyld" <me@dwhyld.plus.com> wrote in message news:<41267548$0$93476$ed2e19e4@ptn-nntp-reader04.plus.net>...
>> "James Bond" <wildblinker007@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:10icros12bjjc5d@corp.supernews.com...
>> > I'm lazy and forgetful, what's the Dave Letterman (TM)-style top ten list
>> of
>> > games that need to be reviewed? I've been meaning to do this for a while
>> > now.
>> >
>>
>> 1. Curse of the Dragon Shrine
>> 2. Dead Reckoning
>> 3. 1893: A World's Fair Mystery
>> 4. Heist
>> 5. IF Art Show 2004 games (any, some, or all!)
>> 6. Max Blaster and Doris de Lightning Against the Parrot Creatures of Venus
>> 7. Narcolepsy
>> 8. Necrotic Drift
>> 9. Return To Ditch Day
>> 10. Unease
>
> Does anyone know who the author of Dead Reckoning (no. 2) is?

There are two games by that name; one is a different translation of Olvido
Mortal (first translation Shattered Memory was disqualified from an IF
Comp); the other was an EOY game by David Whyld.

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"Jess Knoch" <jessicaknoch@mindspring.com> wrote in message news:<2opkndFd02mpU1@uni-berlin.de>...
> Bob_Woodward <soenke_k@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> "James Bond" <wildblinker007@hotmail.com> wrote...
> >>> I'm lazy and forgetful, what's the Dave Letterman (TM)-style top
> >>> ten list of
> >>> games that need to be reviewed? I've been meaning to do this for a
> >>> while now.
> >>>
> [snip list]
> >
> > Shoudn't Pentari: First light be on the list? I'd really like to see a
> > serious review of the full version someday.
>
> I'm not sure where the games on the list come from, but if it were open to
> debate, I would disagree that P:FL "should" be on the list. Some reviews:
>
> http://www.justadventure.com/reviews/Pentari/Pentari.shtm gives it an A.
> http://www.pcgameworld.com/game.php/id/1590/Pentari:_First_Light/ uses two
> exclamation points.

I think the second of these is not strictly speaking a review (at
least, if you click on the "reviews" list in the left column, you get
an index that does not contain P:FL). It might be game information
based on a press release from Malinche, or someone's precis of the
game, or something, but I am not sure it was meant to be considered a
full review. I would also say that JA (*or* pcgameworld) having
reviewed something doesn't necessarily mean that that something should
not also be reviewed in SPAG: the two have different contributors and
only partly-overlapping readership. For that matter, a game having
received an IF-Review doesn't make it ineligible for SPAG's most
wanted list. The more reviews the better, really, and it doesn't hurt
to have them come from multiple perspectives on gaming, either.

There may, of course, be other reasons, and I suppose the fact that
the author of the review would have to spend $20-$30 first in order to
contribute to a nonpaying review zine is a legitimate concern.
 
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Howard wrote:

> I am the one who sets the tone and standards for today's IF community.

> I was signing autographs today for people who thought it was so cool
> to meet the guy who wrote BOFH.

> I've come to the conclusion quite some time ago that these two
> newsgroups... are some sort of Bizarro world

> OUTSIDE of Bizaro world [Panks's] works are quite good.

> A couple of die-hard fans were looking for prayer mats to place in
> front of my booth.

> A number of people clearly enjoyed themselves as they made their way
> through First Light

> I know my work is good.

By the look of things, Greystone is one of those "implement your house"
games.

Stephen.
 
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Howard@malinche.net (Howard Sherman) wrote in message news:<48c1f12f.0408211927.5006e542@posting.google.com>...
> Jessica,
>
> When you said "My serious review of the Demo version is written more
> for today's IF community, unlike the above reviews" what, exactly, did
> you mean?

I must be missing something. (It's been a long week at work, it's
bound to happen.) I'm not seeing anything in the newsgroup. Where
was this (apparently unfavorable) review posted?

Carolyn
 
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"David Kinder" <d.kinder@btinternetspamnothankyou.com> wrote in message
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> Woodfish wrote:
> > Does anyone know who the author of Dead Reckoning (no. 2) is?
>
> It's by Nick Montfort (the English translation) and Andres
> Viedma Pelaez (the Spanish original).
>
> David
>
>

Pity. I wrote a game called Dead Reckoning and I was kind of hoping it was
my version.

It might be a good idea in future to list the author's name alongside the
game so as to avoid confusion.
 
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Howard Sherman wrote:
> Why does YOUR amateurish review (amateurish by your own admission on
> your own website) nullify the reviews of TWO professional sources?

Howard, darling, you're ranting. Stop it.
 
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Ah, a post from Howard! I always look forward to these. Though I've
never understood while the wonderful writing he demonstrates in posts,
brilliantly pretending to be a pompous fool, is not reflected in his
games. Odd that ...

> My dear Jessica, I am the one who sets the tone and standards for
> today's IF community.

We're doomed! Doomed!

> Howard Sherman
> Implementor

This *always* cracks me up.

More seriously, what is it with people and critism? Why can some people
never cope with any negative reviews, and resort to assuming that it's
a conspiracy? Sheesh ...

David
 
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After reading Howard's message, I have this suggestion for the rest of
us.

I have an idea. I'd like to suggest that if anyone's going to any sf/f
or comics con, to simply write up a 1-page flyer with prominent and
respected IF URLs, boldly use the words "INTERACTIVE FICTION", "TEXT
ADVENTURE GAMES", and "FREE", print off 200 copies, and leave them on
the flyer table.

-- David Welbourn
 
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Howard@malinche.net (Howard Sherman) wrote in message news:<48c1f12f.0408211927.5006e542@posting.google.com>...

> When everybody OUTSIDE of these two newsgroups played BOFH it earned
> rave reviews and has become a cult classic. In stark contrast, BOFH
> rated somewhere towards the bottom of the list in IF Comp 2002. Isn't
> it funny that THOUSANDS of people enjoy BOFH despite its low ranking
> by just a few people? I think it's hysterical. I was signing
> autographs today for people who thought it was so cool to meet the guy
> who wrote BOFH.

I'm relatively new to this and don't quite understand why you seem so
aggressive (although I took the liberty to search google groups for
other threads about PFL, so I know some of the bachground). Anyway,
I'm very surprised that thousands of people enjoy BOFH more than other
works of IF. I've played it and honestly did not find it that
terrific. Partly because it was not my kind of humour (I didn't even
like the Seinfeld episode with Bizarro Jerry that much, although
otherwise I love the show), but mostly because I didn't get most of
the puzzles and had to use the walkthrough lots. There seemed also
some implementation missing. IMHO there clearly were lots of better
works in the 2002 competition. But then, I also never heard of BOFH
before.

But what I'd really like to know is if there are really thousands of
people that play IF. I really, really like that thought (although I
can't really believe it). Because if thousands of people liked BOFH,
they should also like the better works of IF. Is your assumption
reflected in download numbers from the IF-archive? Or do you have
another source?

> I've come to the conclusion quite some time ago that these two
> newsgroups and the websites that extend from them are some sort of
> Bizarro world of inverse operations. (e.g. good is bad, evil is good,
> dark is light, etc. etc.) No other theory explains how thousands upon
> thousands of people OUTSIDE of the Bizarro world of these newsgroups
> and related websites love my work and bless all things Malinche while
> the very small population of Bizarro world holds the majority view
> that my work is garbage.

That I really don't understand. Most people seem to like Varicella
(which I think is the best IF I ever played). Do you honestly think
it's bad? In that case I'd be very glad to stay in Bizarro.

> If Mister Woodward would care to make up his own mind about things, I
> invite him to my website at http://www.malinche.net and let him judge
> for himself. I extend that invitation to anyone with an open,
> non-negative mind.

As I said: I played BOFH and didn't like it very much. I would think
about buying PFL if I had the feeling it's worth it, that's why I
hoped for some reviews for it.

Bob

P.S.: I would like just to be called "Bob", because "Bob Woodward" is
clearly a pseudo (due to my imagined resamblance to young Robert
Redford).
 
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Howard@malinche.net (Howard Sherman) wrote in message news:<48c1f12f.0408211927.5006e542@posting.google.com>...
> Jessica,
>
> My dear Jessica, I am the one who sets the tone and standards for
> today's IF community.
>
Hey, everybody, it's Mr. IF himself!

Actually, posts by this guy are a nice entertainment break from the
[Inform] problem with parser etc....posts.
 
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On 22 Aug 2004 07:00:40 -0700, Carolyn Magruder <carolynmagruder@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Howard@malinche.net (Howard Sherman) wrote in message news:<48c1f12f.0408211927.5006e542@posting.google.com>...
>> Jessica,
>>
>> When you said "My serious review of the Demo version is written more
>> for today's IF community, unlike the above reviews" what, exactly, did
>> you mean?
>
> I must be missing something. (It's been a long week at work, it's
> bound to happen.) I'm not seeing anything in the newsgroup. Where
> was this (apparently unfavorable) review posted?
>
> Carolyn

It was written some time ago and was on a website; Jessica recently posted
a link to it.


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tilford@ugcs.caltech.edu
 
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On 21 Aug 2004 20:27:04 -0700, Howard Sherman <Howard@malinche.net> wrote:
>
> When everybody OUTSIDE of these two newsgroups played BOFH it earned
> rave reviews and has become a cult classic. In stark contrast, BOFH
> rated somewhere towards the bottom of the list in IF Comp 2002. Isn't
> it funny that THOUSANDS of people enjoy BOFH despite its low ranking
> by just a few people? I think it's hysterical. I was signing
> autographs today for people who thought it was so cool to meet the guy
> who wrote BOFH.

I believe that, the more diverse a person's experiences, the harder that
person will be to impress.

For example, a person who has read twenty different fantasy series will
probably have a more critical response to a new series than a person for
whom that is his/her first series. The former will, knowingly or not, be
judging the new series against the other twenty; the latter won't have any
sort of baseline.

The people on rec*int-fiction have played a LOT of IF games, so of course
they will grade BOFH or Pentari very differently from a person who is
experiencing IF for the first time, or who has not been playing IF for 10
years.

Have there been any people who were introduced to IF through BOFH or
Pentari, found the IF archive, and looked back at BOFH / Pentari? I
think that such a person's opinions would be instructive.



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On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 15:05:12 -0400, Jess Knoch <jessicaknoch@mindspring.com> wrote:

> The 16 people who voted on it at www.ifratings.com give it an average of
> 1.5:
> http://www.carouselchain.com/if/index.php?searchtitle=pentari
> The comments on that site might be worth reading as a review.

The game reviewed on this link is a small prequel, not PFL.


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"Bob_Woodward"

> But what I'd really like to know is if there are really thousands of
> people that play IF. I really, really like that thought (although I
> can't really believe it). Because if thousands of people liked BOFH,
> they should also like the better works of IF. Is your assumption
> reflected in download numbers from the IF-archive? Or do you have
> another source?

Notice how there's one thing he's not boasting about: his sales figures.
With his aggressive marketing and his ego being the size of a pregnant
elephant, he may very well have lured thousands of innocent people into
downloading the demo, only to delete it five minutes later. So instead of
attracting people to IF, he may be repelling them, by the thousands.
 
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Howard Sherman wrote:
[Snipped a lot of BS]

I always feel sad about plonking the author of a game I actually liked.

Well, there you go. *plonk*
 
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emshort@mindspring.com wrote:
> "I would also say that JA (*or* pcgameworld) having
> reviewed something doesn't necessarily mean that that something should
> not also be reviewed in SPAG: the two have different contributors and
> only partly-overlapping readership. For that matter, a game having
> received an IF-Review doesn't make it ineligible for SPAG's most
> wanted list. The more reviews the better, really, and it doesn't hurt
> to have them come from multiple perspectives on gaming, either.

You're right, of course -- I didn't mean to imply that just because it had
been reviewed by someone else (*anyone* else) it doesn't need to be reviewed
in SPAG. On the contrary, I know that lots of games get reviewed in SPAG as
well as other places, and I think that's great. I had two separate ideas in
my post: first, I didn't think P:FL should be on the top ten most wanted
list for SPAG, and second, if the poster wanted to read reviews of P:FL
there are a few places on the web to look.

> There may, of course, be other reasons, and I suppose the fact that
> the author of the review would have to spend $20-$30 first in order to
> contribute to a nonpaying review zine is a legitimate concern.

Aye. I don't have a good way around that, which is why I haven't reviewed
the full version 🙂.

Jess