Specs for Dell's Windows 8 Clover Trail Tablet Leaked

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seems pretty good, but I hope it is not running the desktop version of windows 8, it barely runs properly with 4GB RAM

also if it is an x86 system then it really isn't anything new. Remember the old tablet/laptops that ran windows XP or vista?

it seems that they took that concept and just used the insides of a netbook

My reasoning for this is the specs and the power consumption, it seems very close to that of a netbook

only difference is that tablet will probably cost a lot more than $300
 
[citation][nom]ojas[/nom]OMG. Sell it at iPad prices and it's done. SSD? 2GB RAM? x86? Look at those security features...man...this stuff looks real good...[/citation]
I would never pay the "iPad price" for a tablet when you can get a soup'd-up laptop for the same price. I expect more out of a device priced that high then to browse the Internet and check Email.
 
Agree with Mayne. I would rather have an ultrabook convertible that can be a tablet or a notebook. Those are only going to be about $100 more than an iPad but a ton more useful and powerful.
 
capacitive stylus = fail. active digitizers please. ps wtf is with all this back facing camera on tablet non-sense; the tablet is about the worst form factor a digital camera could be in, keep it on the phone damnit! for that matter, why the hell do we have front facing cameras on cellphones; once again, the form factor, come on!
 
windows 8 tablet instructions

Step 1, buy netbook for $290 http://www.amazon.com/HP-Mini-210-4150NR-10-1-Inch-Charcoal/dp/B0072N4TNW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1337973003&sr=8-1 or $270 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834230359

Step 2, Add an extra GB of RAM

Step 3, remove the top case along with the keyboard and touchpad (route the power button somewhere on the side of the case)

Step 4, remove the LCD screen and it's plastic boarder

Step 5, mount the LCD screen along with the boarder where the top case that housed the keyboard and touchpad used to be

Step 6, find a digitizer that is the same size as the screen (they sell USB ones on ebay) and mount it onto the screen http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/how-to/gadgets/4339778

Step 7, Install windows 8


Step 8, enjoy your windows 8 tablet


I'm just saying, that tablet is pretty much a netbook with a touch screen and no keyboard or touchpad but with 2-3 times the price tag
 
Leak my rear end. This is a release and see how the market reacts. Dell, I have no interest in an Atom. I should just buy the current Samsung slate that has windows 7 and see if i even want 8.
 
Again, everyone on this site seems to have windows 8 already and can testify to it's potential, all it's features, it's stability, and how user-friendly it is. Simply amazing!
 
yeah it's good for tablets but with those improvements doesn't justify the metro gui which is not friendly at all to desktops or laptops no start menu. your avg consumor is not going to take well to that and all of the improvements windows 8 has will be on deaf years if they dont' take well to metro and the lack of the start menu.
 
[citation][nom]razor512[/nom]seems pretty good, but I hope it is not running the desktop version of windows 8, it barely runs properly with 4GB RAMalso if it is an x86 system then it really isn't anything new. Remember the old tablet/laptops that ran windows XP or vista?it seems that they took that concept and just used the insides of a netbookMy reasoning for this is the specs and the power consumption, it seems very close to that of a netbookonly difference is that tablet will probably cost a lot more than $300[/citation]
Welcome to technology, you must be new here 😛
Tablets are one step below, or equal to, netbooks except that they add touch screens, while loosing the keys and mouse capability (unless docked). You pay extra because of the smaller form factor, the touch screen (generally ips, while netbooks tend to be TN... and that is the bulk of the price difference), the 'specialty' low power parts to get a little extra time out of it, and the trendyness tax of having a 'tablet'.

Also, Win8 works pretty awesome on my 2 year old netbooks that have 1 and 2GB of ram... so perhaps you are doing something wrong. These are low end devices, they are meant for web browsing, office, and other light workloads. They are not supermen multi-tasking giants, they are simple, potentially useful devices, and as that they are great. The perfect compliment to a desktop... but hardly a desktop replacement.

All that being said, this looks like a great tablet! This (or an AMD version with a little better GPU) is exactly what I am looking for. A little extra Ram would be nice, but it looks solid to me :)
 
[citation][nom]stingstang[/nom]Again, everyone on this site seems to have windows 8 already and can testify to it's potential, all it's features, it's stability, and how user-friendly it is. Simply amazing![/citation]

These are all the poor kids, who have no money for Apple's iCrap! 😀
 
for the desktop version of windows 8, part of the testing I did involved limiting how much memory is used, at 2GB, browsing the web for a few hours with firefox and about 25 tabs caused it to start seriously thrashing away with the virtual memory.

PS if you take apart a netbook, you will see that it does not take much space, most of the space is empty space because thickness is added to handle the battery, if they move to the kind of battery commonly used with tablets, and added a very thin copper heat spreader for the CPU, they can easily take a current netbook and put it in a half inch thick case

PS intel atom CPU's can be passibely cooled if you use a heat spreader (many dell netbooks are passively cooled

also a IPS display is not very expensive compared to a TN panel, there is usually about a $20 price premium for the IPS panel (which can be offset by the reduced production cost from not having to add a heyboard or touchpad)

A digitizer is usually around $30-40

if anything, turning a netbook into a tablet and adding a IPS display and touch screen will probably bring the retail price from around $270 to about $300-320

the tablet listed in this article is essentially a netbook without a keyboard or touchpad

PS a atom based system can be made much thinner than an ultrabook or a macbook air since they are using CPU's with TDP's of around 2-3 watts instead of 20-30 watt CPU's

PS, I am not new here, profile: http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/profile-141639.htm


Also not all tablets use IPS displays

 
Oh look at that, they took a garbage 1366x768 panel out of a netbook and built a tablet around it. No thanks. If these manufacturers are going to invade the tablet space with the same shitty screens they toss into their netbooks/notebooks to save $10 per device, they've failed before they started. Great screens are one of the only things tablets have had going for them.

And since when are fingerprint scanners synonymous with security? Those things are laughably easy to fool. A strong password is much more secure.
 
[citation][nom]razor512[/nom]for the desktop version of windows 8, part of the testing I did involved limiting how much memory is used, at 2GB, browsing the web for a few hours with firefox and about 25 tabs caused it to start seriously thrashing away with the virtual memory.PS if you take apart a netbook, you will see that it does not take much space, most of the space is empty space because thickness is added to handle the battery, if they move to the kind of battery commonly used with tablets, and added a very thin copper heat spreader for the CPU, they can easily take a current netbook and put it in a half inch thick casePS intel atom CPU's can be passibely cooled if you use a heat spreader (many dell netbooks are passively cooledalso a IPS display is not very expensive compared to a TN panel, there is usually about a $20 price premium for the IPS panel (which can be offset by the reduced production cost from not having to add a heyboard or touchpad)A digitizer is usually around $30-40if anything, turning a netbook into a tablet and adding a IPS display and touch screen will probably bring the retail price from around $270 to about $300-320 the tablet listed in this article is essentially a netbook without a keyboard or touchpadPS a atom based system can be made much thinner than an ultrabook or a macbook air since they are using CPU's with TDP's of around 2-3 watts instead of 20-30 watt CPU'sPS, I am not new here, profile: http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/profile-141639.htm Also not all tablets use IPS displays[/citation]
Don't mind me, I'm just messing with ya.
But what you have to admit that what you said was kinda silly. A netbook with a touch screen generally starts at $4-500, so it is entirely understandable that a shiny new tablet (remember what we learned from apple; trendy means profit) would also start in this range. And these will be much more capable than some silly ARM based products, because they can run x86 code... all be it slowly. I never cease to be amazed as what I have gotten my old netbooks to do... if given the time to do it. They are not quick, but they can do anything slowly, and the new Atoms are nothing to snuff at (except in the GPU department).
Also, netbooks have those air pockets so that the parts (HDD, north bridge, etc.) can breathe; it is not all just for the sake of the battery housing or CPU (remember the old Atoms had a wonderfully low TDP, but the NB took much more power). You start slimming down and then you have to use better heat spreaders, better paste, an SSD, low voltage ram, more durable case/screen materials, flat batteries instead of AA or AAA style rechargeables... it really does add up. The CPU may be the same as a netbook... but aside from that they are different monsters, and so long as they are 'new' they will be more expensive than they ought to be.
 
[citation][nom]razor512[/nom]I did involved limiting how much memory is used, at 2GB, browsing the web for a few hours with firefox and about 25 tabs caused it to start seriously thrashing away with the virtual memory[/citation]
And no, Netbooks are not mean to have 25 tabs open. I may run 25-50+ tabs on my desktop, but to think that my netbook could handle something like that is dumb.
 
yep, I meant it to be a bit silly but it just seems annoying when many companies charge so much for a tablet.


PS for some reason netbooks do not handle workstation workloads properly. I tried running maya 3d 2011, and photoshop cs5 at the same time, (it ran but insanely slow (not enough RAM)

then adobe aftereffects would crash if you tried to render any video, and Davinci resolve crashed at launch so i guess I wont be running those on a tablet :)

was ultimately hoping to pull up an entire workflow on a dell inspiron mini which is maya 3d, photoshop, adobe aftereffects, and davinci resolve all at the same time and record a video to post on youtube :) (would like to see tomshardware try this when the first windows 8 tablet hits the market)
 
I don't even know why I clicked that link...
Probably because toms doesn't have much to write and I'm so bored I'm even clicking on pages that totally don't interest me!
 
[citation][nom]razor512[/nom]was ultimately hoping to pull up an entire workflow on a dell inspiron mini which is maya 3d, photoshop, adobe aftereffects, and davinci resolve all at the same time and record a video to post on youtube (would like to see tomshardware try this when the first windows 8 tablet hits the market)[/citation]Maybe when a Brazos-T based tablet with 4GB+ of memory hits the market.
 
[citation][nom]mayne92[/nom]I would never pay the "iPad price" for a tablet when you can get a soup'd-up laptop for the same price. I expect more out of a device priced that high then to browse the Internet and check Email.[/citation]
Hehe. True, True. I personally think that max price for a tablet (highest of high end, save tablet PCs) should be $500-550 (and $350-400 for phones). iPads are over priced, yes, i meant $500 when i said "ipad price". Not talking about the rest of the lineup.

Here i'm just being realistic anyway. The Xolo X900 sells for about $400, and that's a single-core Atom SoC running a free OS (android) from a local manufacturer.

In this case, it's Dell (overpriced) + Intel (refuses to maintain less than 60% margins) + MS (Who'll never sell Windows free). I don't know how you can expect it to be less than $500, at least this year.
Once Nvidia starts off selling Kai tablets, and IB based Atoms come in (should get cheaper as their mass production gets under way), hopefully tablets are restrained to netbook prices.

And of course, if you had to choose b/w an iPad and this thing at the same price, which would you choose? I, at least, would go with the dell. If they do it right, this thing could become the next ipad killer. And isn't that what the entire industry wants to do?

+1 to solid competition, and +1 to hoping prices fall to more reasonable rates!
 
Nice netbook without the keyboard, shouldn't they charge less since they have less parts?

Oh and what makes this stand out from the other Windows 8 netbook, err tablet manufacturers?
 
[citation][nom]CaedenV[/nom]And no, Netbooks are not mean to have 25 tabs open. I may run 25-50+ tabs on my desktop, but to think that my netbook could handle something like that is dumb.[/citation]
2GB of memory is plenty for most things. I'm running 2GBs currently and have been for a while since one of my dominators died (haven't got around to RMA). I never have to watch my memory (though I don't do anything too fancy).
Lots of tabs is not intensive, eg I'm running 16 and my memory is 50%.

On topic:
I'm probably in the market for a W8 x86 tablet which can use a pen like a waecom tablet. A laptop which can do this is like $1500-$2000 which is no where near affordable. If this one can use a pen I'd be seriously interested....
 
2cell/4cell battery, 30/60WHr swappable battery.
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That's going to be the achilles heal of Intel Atom based tablets.
30Whr is a joke and the 60Whr battery will be bulky and heavy and still give you worse battery life than an Android tablet or iPad.

Back to the drawing board! nobody wants a tablet that runs out of juice in less than 5 hours.
 
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