SpeedFan shutting SATA Drives down?

[tomasandri]

So, I have a weird problem. I'm just gonna explain it the best I can.
I can start up my computer no problem. I have a WD Green 2TB(about 1,5 years old), a WD Blue 3TB(about a month old) and an NVMe M.2 Samsung 960 Evo 250gb in it. All drives show up in Windows, BIOS and everything. I can keep my pc on for days without problems. But that is only if I don't run the SpeedFan program that I use to control my fans. As soon, and I mean the same second the program loads up, I hear the Windows USB disconnect sound and the SATA drives(not my Samsung NVMe ssd) disappear and I can't get them back(like not even in disk manager, nada). I am 100% certain that it is something to do with SpeedFan. As soon as I restart, the drives are back.

I am lost. Please help me? 😀

 

[SkyNetRising]

This is first time I hear of such speedfan behavior.

Anyway - what can you do? Don't use speedfan.

 

[Sedivy]

While speedfan is highly capable, if your mobo isn't natively supported (and if it's newer it likely isn't, it's only a single guy updating sporadically for newer boards, depending on what he's able to get his hadns on), older settings might be conflicting on newer boards in some unpredictable ways. While I haven't heard of speedfan doing this before, it just might not like your mobo. Don't use it, but...what is your motherboard? Does it not come with some sort of basic fan utility?

 

[tomasandri]

While speedfan is highly capable, if your mobo isn't natively supported (and if it's newer it likely isn't, it's only a single guy updating sporadically for newer boards, depending on what he's able to get his hadns on), older settings might be conflicting on newer boards in some unpredictable ways. While I haven't heard of speedfan doing this before, it just might not like your mobo. Don't use it, but...what is your motherboard? Does it not come with some sort of basic fan utility?

I have the Asrock Z270 Gaming K6 motherboard. And yeah, it has a built in fan controller, but the lowest setting is still wayyy too high. And I don't know what other fan control programs there are, like for case fans.

 

[tomasandri]

This is first time I hear of such speedfan behavior.

Anyway - what can you do? Don't use speedfan.

Well that doesn't really help, of course I thought of that(but thanks for the reply non the less). I can't find any other fan control software. Like for case fans and such. Anything you'd be able to point me towards?

 

[Sedivy]

The Asrock fan controller should give you the option to set yourself the lowest settings. Like if it shows you the curve with however many points, you should be able to click on the point and drag it physically to whatever limit you want. Keep in mind that lower limit will depend on the fan's physical lower limits in rpm at which they stop working. For some fans this can go as low as 300rpm but for a lot of fans, it won't go lower than 600rpm. Check you fan's specs for what their lowest limit is.

 

[JackNaylorPE]

I have the Asrock Z270 Gaming K6 motherboard. And yeah, it has a built in fan controller, but the lowest setting is still wayyy too high. And I don't know what other fan control programs there are, like for case fans.

1. Gaming MoBos typically come with two means of fan control ... BIOS and a MoBo utility. AsRock's utility is called OC Tuner and the app within that utility that controls fan speeds is called IIRC, QuietFan
http://www.asrock.com/feature/OCTuner/

2. According to newegg ...

1 x CPU Fan Connector (4-pin) (Smart Fan Speed Control)
* The CPU Fan Connector supports the CPU fan of maximum 1A (12W) fan power.
1 x CPU Optional/Water Pump Fan Connector (4-pin) (Smart Fan Speed Control)
* The CPU Optional/Water Pump Fan supports the water cooler fan of maximum 1.5A (18W) fan power.
2 x Chassis Fan Connectors (4-pin) (Smart Fan Speed Control)
1 x Chassis Optional/Water Pump Fan Connector (4-pin) (Smart Fan Speed Control)
* The Chassis Optional/Water Pump Fan supports the water cooler fan of maximum 1.5A (18W) fan power.
* CHA_FAN1 and CHA_FAN2 can auto detect if 3-pin or 4-pin fan is in use.

How many things you need to control speeds on ? Are they PWM or DCV fans ? How many fans on your CPU cooler ?

The 2 CHA fan headers can be used for 3 pin DCV case fans and will autodetect what is connected.

If not using water cooling, you can use the "CPU Optional/Water Pump Fan" PWM connector with a Phanteks Hub to control up to 11 DCV fans or 1.5 amps whichever is greater. A typical 1250 rpm case fan uses 0.14 amps so that means you could use all 11 fan ports on the hub w/o worry even if you didn't connect the Hub's power cable. With the header rating at 1.5, I would hesitate to use all of that

83% for 1200 rpm
67% for 1800 rpm
50% for 2100 rpm

But if ya use the power cable, there's no worry about overtaxing the header.

if ya have PWM fans than you can use all 5 headers.

report back with ya fans usgaes and wattage / amperage and I can make more specific recommendations. Fo example:

CPU Cooler: (2) 1500 rpm [Make / Model No.] 0.15 amp PWM 4-pin fans - use CPU and CPU OPT headers for the 2 fans
Case: (5) 1200 rpm [Make / Model No.] 0.14 amp DCV 3-pin fans - use Phanteks Hub connected to "Chassis Optional/Water Pump Fan Connector". Header rating = 1.5 amps ... amp draw = 0.70 amps. You're golden.

The speed range of your build will depend mostly on the quality of the fans. PWM is know for being able to go down to lower speeds but newer DCV fans are doing very well here. Phanteks DCV fans I have reliably tested down to 20% when on the hub. I maintain a workable range from about 325 to 1250 in 16 fans (10 radiator / 6 case fans). When the fan curve calls for a speed of < 325, I just tell the utility to turn them off. I also control the ramp up / ramp down speeds such that when the temp sensor detects that the CPU has cooled down cause the laod has stopped, it runs the fans a minute longer to cool down the coolant temps.

As for speedfan, nice legacy app that, to my eyes, long ago outlived its usefulness.

 

[nukemaster]

Speedfan has been known to cause some issues with some system configs. I have seen full system freezes and resets with some systems.

I recommend trying to stop it from even looking for a hard drive.

Try adding /NOSMARTSCAN to the end of your speedfan shortcut.

They have some other ones you can try.
http://www.almico.com/sfarticle.php?id=3

 

[DutchMike]

Speedfan has been known to cause some issues with some system configs. I have seen full system freezes and resets with some systems.

I recommend trying to stop it from even looking for a hard drive.

Try adding /NOSMARTSCAN to the end of your speedfan shortcut.

They have some other ones you can try.
http://www.almico.com/sfarticle.php?id=3

Thanks a ton dude, I used SpeedFan to control the CPU fans, but each time I activated it
the F harddisk wouldn't register, at first I thought it was the cables, nope.. it was SpeedFan.

That fixed it, thanks!