Spirit Link & Oblivion Stone

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Hi,

My opponent has Darksteel Colossus and Oblivion Stone in play. There is no
fate counter on DS.

On my turn I enchant his DS with Spirit Link

On his next turn he puts a fate counter on DS. On his subsequent turn he
sacrifices Oblivion Stone.

Is my Spirit Link destroyed? I think that since it is enchanting his DS it
is now "part" of DS and follows whatever happens to DS.

NazMan

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Spirit Link
{W}
Enchant Creature
Whenever enchanted creature deals damage, you gain that much life.

Oblivion Stone
{3}
Artifact
{4}, {T}: Put a fate counter on target permanent.
{5}, {T}, Sacrifice Oblivion Stone: Destroy each nonland permanent without a
fate counter on it, then remove all fate counters from all permanents.

 

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NazMan, worshipped by llamas the world over, wrote...
> Hi,
>
> My opponent has Darksteel Colossus and Oblivion Stone in play. There is no
> fate counter on DS.
>
> On my turn I enchant his DS with Spirit Link
>
> On his next turn he puts a fate counter on DS. On his subsequent turn he
> sacrifices Oblivion Stone.
>
> Is my Spirit Link destroyed? I think that since it is enchanting his DS it
> is now "part" of DS and follows whatever happens to DS.

Incorrect, sorry. They are two seperate permanents for all purposes,
and any "destroy all enchantments" effect like Oblivion Stone or
Tranquility will take out Spirit Link.


> ---------------------------------------
> Spirit Link
> {W}
> Enchant Creature
> Whenever enchanted creature deals damage, you gain that much life.
>
> Oblivion Stone
> {3}
> Artifact
> {4}, {T}: Put a fate counter on target permanent.
> {5}, {T}, Sacrifice Oblivion Stone: Destroy each nonland permanent without a
> fate counter on it, then remove all fate counters from all permanents.
>
>
>

 

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On Sun, 19 Sep 2004, NazMan wrote:

> Hi,
>
> My opponent has Darksteel Colossus and Oblivion Stone in play. There
> is no fate counter on DS.
>
> On my turn I enchant his DS with Spirit Link
>
> On his next turn he puts a fate counter on DS. On his subsequent
> turn he sacrifices Oblivion Stone.
>
> Is my Spirit Link destroyed? I think that since it is enchanting his
> DS it is now "part" of DS and follows whatever happens to DS.

Yes it's destroyed. But why did he put a fate counter on his
_Darksteel_ Colossus???

--

David

 

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"David de Kloet" <dskloet@few.vu.nl> wrote in message
news😛ine.GSO.4.61.0409191147130.26267@keg.cs.vu.nl...
> On Sun, 19 Sep 2004, NazMan wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > My opponent has Darksteel Colossus and Oblivion Stone in play. There
> > is no fate counter on DS.
> >
> > On my turn I enchant his DS with Spirit Link
> >
> > On his next turn he puts a fate counter on DS. On his subsequent
> > turn he sacrifices Oblivion Stone.
> >
> > Is my Spirit Link destroyed? I think that since it is enchanting his
> > DS it is now "part" of DS and follows whatever happens to DS.
>
> Yes it's destroyed. But why did he put a fate counter on his
> _Darksteel_ Colossus???

Yes why did he indeed? it is indestructible!

> --
>
> David

 

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On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 01:48:47 GMT, NazMan <cnazario@cinci.rr.com> wrote:
>My opponent has Darksteel Colossus and Oblivion Stone in play. There is no
>fate counter on DS.

Okay. Oblivion Stone's effect won't manage to destroy Darksteel Colossus,
because the Colossus is indestructible, notice.

>On my turn I enchant his DS with Spirit Link
>
>On his next turn he puts a fate counter on DS. On his subsequent turn he
>sacrifices Oblivion Stone.

What's "DS"? Whatever it is, that means the Stone effect won't try to destroy
it, while resolving.

>Is my Spirit Link destroyed? I think that since it is enchanting his DS it
>is now "part" of DS and follows whatever happens to DS.

Um. Several twined misconceptions here.

The Spirit Link is not "part of" the DS, whatever that is. It is a separate
permanent; it is sitting on top of, "enchanting" or 'attached to', the DS.
It is most certainly a permanent, and isn't a land, and does not have a
fate counter on it, so the OStone effect will destroy it. This is independent
of what the OStone does to the DS.

After using the OStone, what remains in play is just the Colossus; the Stone
was sacrificed as part of the activation cost of its ability, while the Spirit
Link and the DS were both destroyed on resolution because they were not lands
and did not have fate counters on them and were permanents.

Dave
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NazMan wrote:

> Hi,
>
> My opponent has Darksteel Colossus and Oblivion Stone in play. There is no
> fate counter on DS.
>
> On my turn I enchant his DS with Spirit Link
>
> On his next turn he puts a fate counter on DS. On his subsequent turn he
> sacrifices Oblivion Stone.
>
> Is my Spirit Link destroyed? I think that since it is enchanting his DS it
> is now "part" of DS and follows whatever happens to DS.

No, it's not "part" of the DS, it is an enchantment whose subject is the DS,
nothing more. When the Stone's ability resolves, it notices that Spirit
Link is a) an nonland permanent and b) doesn't have a fate counter,
and promptly destroys it. The Colossus, of course, survives, since
it has a fate counter (which is then removed).
>
> NazMan
>
> ---------------------------------------
> Spirit Link
> {W}
> Enchant Creature
> Whenever enchanted creature deals damage, you gain that much life.
>
> Oblivion Stone
> {3}
> Artifact
> {4}, {T}: Put a fate counter on target permanent.
> {5}, {T}, Sacrifice Oblivion Stone: Destroy each nonland permanent without
> {a
> fate counter on it, then remove all fate counters from all permanents.

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