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Hello all. I migrated my working old OCZ 240gb SSD to a newer Samsung 256gb SSD so I could replace the aging OCZ. After swapping drives, could not boot up with a HDD error. On investigation with Easeus partition software comparing the 2 drives noticed the Samsung was GPT and the OCZ was MBR, so I used the utility to convert the Samsung to MBR. This did not work either. Note the non-bootable SSD is fully accessible as a secondary drive. The Samsung was initially the boot drive in a newer HP Omen desktop and was working normally. Although I have my boot order as USB-CD-HDD, if the non bootable SSD is installed as my boot drive, I cannot boot from either USB thumb drive or bootable CD Windows repair disks. Always get the HDD error. System: Latest Windows 10 on a Lenovo Thinkpad W500 (Old but works great). Question is: how do I boot from USB/CD with a broken but repairable C: drive? Thanks (c:
 
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Does the system still work with the original OCZ?
If so, redo the clone operation.

Specific steps for a successful clone operation:
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Verify the actual used space on the current drive is significantly below the size of the new SSD
Download and install Macrium Reflect (or Samsung Data Migration, if a Samsung SSD)
Power off
Disconnect ALL drives except the current C and the new SSD
Power up
Run the Macrium Reflect (or Samsung Data Migration)
Select ALL the partitions on the existing C drive
Click the 'Clone' button
Wait until it is done
When it finishes, power off
Disconnect ALL drives except for the new SSD
This is to allow the system to try to boot from ONLY the SSD
Swap the SATA cables around so that the new drive is connected to the same SATA port as the old drive
Power up, and verify the BIOS boot order
If good, continue the power up

It should boot from the new drive, just like the old drive.
Maybe reboot a time or two, just to make sure.

If it works, and it should, all is good.

Later, reconnect the old drive and wipe as necessary.
Delete the 450MB Recovery Partition, here:
https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/windows/en-US/4f1b84ac-b193-40e3-943a-f45d52e23685/cant-delete-extra-healthy-recovery-partitions-and-healthy-efi-system-partition?forum=w8itproinstall
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Thanks USAFRet for quick response. Yes, the OCZ boots and works fine. I will give your idea a try right after my current operation finishes. I thought doing a sector by sector image and then restoring that image to the Samsung might work, but now that I think about it, in it's current state I can't restore the image because I can't boot from USB or CD to get my backup software (Acronis 2018) going... I will get back to you. (RCN retired myself)
 
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Did you use the Samsung ssd migration app to do the copy?

It will only have a problem if the source windows C drive has some sort of a problem.
You might try redoing the copy.

And.. when you are done, move the newly cloned ssd to the original ssd port.
 
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I did not use the Samsung App yet, I'm still waiting for the Acronis sector image to finish, has about a half hour to go it says. After that I will try your idea. This is quite an old laptop and isn't too speedy with imaging...
 
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Not Samsung Magician...the Samsung Data Migration.
Available here:
http://www.samsung.com/semiconductor/minisite/ssd/download/tools/

This is for going to a Samsung target drive.
Or, Macrium Reflect.
 
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The Samsung Migration utility is not seeing the Samsung SSD at all. Obviously something I attempted with the partition manager has screwed it up. I did a rebuild MBR last as I recall. Prior to that I was comparing the boot sector with the working OCZ drive and changing the one difference to match. Apparently I should used the Samsung software first, but I was not aware of it. Any other ideas?
 
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OK, hold.

Can you return the system to fully functionality with the OCZ drive?
 
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Start by reformatting the ssd as a bootable device.
That should erase all partitions and create a single bootable device.

The ssd migration app is not a clone app which is a bit for bit copy
It is a C drive mover that works TO a Samsung supported device. You can move FROM anything.
When done, whatever useful you had on the original C drive will be present on the new C drive and the remaining space will be added to the C partition.

You first might want to use the Samsung magician app to check your new Samsung ssd.
It can detect the firmware level and upgrade it if necessary.
It will also verify that your ssd is a legitimate Samsung device and that it is functional.

Download magician and the migration aid directly from the Samsung support site to get the latest version.
http://www.samsung.com/semiconductor/minisite/ssd/download/tools/

Later, I uninstall the magician software.
I find the tuning options and other options to be more intrusive than I like.
 
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Then try it one more time, as per these steps exactly, using Macrium Reflect...

Specific steps for a successful clone operation:
-----------------------------
Verify the actual used space on the current drive is significantly below the size of the new SSD
Download and install Macrium Reflect (or Samsung Data Migration, if a Samsung SSD)
Power off
Disconnect ALL drives except the current C and the new SSD
Power up
Run the Macrium Reflect (or Samsung Data Migration)
Select ALL the partitions on the existing C drive
Click the 'Clone' button
Wait until it is done
When it finishes, power off
Disconnect ALL drives except for the new SSD
This is to allow the system to try to boot from ONLY the SSD
Swap the SATA cables around so that the new drive is connected to the same SATA port as the old drive
Power up, and verify the BIOS boot order
If good, continue the power up

It should boot from the new drive, just like the old drive.
Maybe reboot a time or two, just to make sure.

If it works, and it should, all is good.

Later, reconnect the old drive and wipe as necessary.
Delete the 450MB Recovery Partition, here:
https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/windows/en-US/4f1b84ac-b193-40e3-943a-f45d52e23685/cant-delete-extra-healthy-recovery-partitions-and-healthy-efi-system-partition?forum=w8itproinstall
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How much space is consumed on the current OCZ drive?
For this to work, that space must be below 200GB.
 
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As I mentioned, neither of the Samsung utilities are seeing the Samsung SSD so they are useless at this point. Windows can see the SSD but does not show any partitions (no media). However I can see the Samsung SSD and it's 3 partitions with Easeus Partition Master 10.2. I'm not sure on how to format it with boot option, EaseUS does not offer that. I suspect I should use Windows Diskpart?
 
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Sorry made a mistake in my last response - Windows does see the Samsung SSD and it's 3 partitions even though the Samsung software does not. It was the CD drive that indicated no media. I am just reviewing diskpart commands to reformat and make active.
 
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I ran Windows diskpart and cleaned the ssd then created a primary partition and activated it and gave it a label. This all worked, there is now only 1 partition on the Samsung SSD. Both Samsung utilities still do not see the SSD but Windows and Easeus still do. I still cannot boot from a USB drive or CD to do a Windows repair or load my restore image software. The error it shows is: Error 0200: Failure Fixed Disk 1 - Press <F1> to Setup.
I will now download Macrium Reflect and try the clone operation. Thanks for your patience
 
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The Macrium clone operation was successful in that it cloned the OCZ drive to the Samsung drive, all 3 partitions successfully. However the Samsung drive still will not boot, with the same error. Neither Samsung Magician or Migration tool support the drive. I have determined this is because it is an OEM drive from another company (HP) and it's not listed in the migration utility user manual as supported. I suppose I will have to contact Samsung or HP to resolve this issue. Thaks again for your patience and support.
 
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