'SSD' not displayed in BIOS boot option and also 'your pc just ran into a problem'

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UPDATE: Apparently the 'press del for BIOS' not showing is due to 'fast boot' being enabled'. I disabled and it made no diff. I found out that if you have recently had Windows 10 installed on an SSD, there is no more 'BIOS' mode, its apparently UEFI mode. So I managed to get into the 'BIOS?' by going to the settings, restart, trouble shooting etc and I restarted PC and it auto loaded the BIOS. Still it displays 1st boot order as Windows Boot manager..?
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I just setup a new SSD and installed Windows (bootable usb) onto it. I had my CD-Rom and internal HD disconnected. It all went well, PC booted up, I didnt even have to change any boot order, or set bootable USB to no.1 as I turned on my PC and it went into installing Windows 10
So I used my PC for a bit, installed a few things etc so it was usable.

But I dont think I could get into BIOS. There was not the same 'loading' screen as before. Before it said, press del for bios, f11 for something else etc. This time it just said 'msi' and loaded my account.
So not sure if I pressed f11 or del but it somehow got into BIOS and I see this as boot order >>>http://imgur.com/a/imaYn and http://imgur.com/a/2rNtB

My SSD does not show but it still boots into Windows. I click the '+' buton (top right) and see the 'Windows Boot Manager (PO: Samsung SSD...') option http://imgur.com/a/lKwAd
Do I select the SSD and then I place it as boot order 1 I guess?

Also really scary, I relieved 'your pc just ran into a problem'. I think pressing f11 and the loading or something caused that, then it ran a percentage scan and went away.

Help! 🙁 many thanks, hopefully I can get this slight issue fixed
 
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You have NO problem as long as your system is booting to the OS installed on your SSD. Everything is as it should be.
Don't be concerned with the listings in the BIOS. Because all the motherboards manufactured over the past years contain the UEFI interface the BIOS settings have been somewhat confusing to many PC users.

Your SSD has been apparently partitioned to the GPT scheme. That's fine. So the boot to the OS installed on that SSD will, in effect, trigger the "Windows Boot Manager" with a UEFI designation. It's perfectly normal. Because it differs from the "old-style" BIOS boot priority settings we've always been used to, it's somewhat confusing to the average PC user. (Different UEFI motherboards contain slightly different...
You have NO problem as long as your system is booting to the OS installed on your SSD. Everything is as it should be.
Don't be concerned with the listings in the BIOS. Because all the motherboards manufactured over the past years contain the UEFI interface the BIOS settings have been somewhat confusing to many PC users.

Your SSD has been apparently partitioned to the GPT scheme. That's fine. So the boot to the OS installed on that SSD will, in effect, trigger the "Windows Boot Manager" with a UEFI designation. It's perfectly normal. Because it differs from the "old-style" BIOS boot priority settings we've always been used to, it's somewhat confusing to the average PC user. (Different UEFI motherboards contain slightly different designations.)

I can't determine precisely why you ran into the problem you reported in the first place. Perhaps it was due to some inconsistent BIOS/UEFI setting you incorporated. But your "UPDATE" indicates all is well at this point; at least I think that's what you're indicating, isn't it?

P.S.
Since you're apparently working with a MSI motherboard, pressing the F11 key upon bootup will normally display the boot menu. Presumably your SSD boot drive will likely be listed as a Windows Boot Manager - UEFI device (the listing differs among motherboards). Ordinarily you do not have to access your boot menu upon bootup as long as the system is booting to the correct drive.

The "bottom line" in all this is as long as the system boots to your SSD without incident and the drive functions problem-free, there's NO problem. Capiche?
 
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Well thats great to hear! :)



Yes thats right, its displaying 'UEFI Hard Disk: Windows Boot Manager' as you probably saw in the image. So this is fine? I presume when you say "old-style" BIOS boot priority settings", you mean thats the boot order that displays "SSD" for boot order 1 but for me its 'Windows Boot manager'?

And you saying " Your SSD has been apparently partitioned to the GPT scheme." scares me a little. As if it shouldnt normally do that, however its done it anyway and its all fine? Or is (Windows? MSI?) just rolling out new ways to display in BIOS from now on?


Well I checked Event viewer and its showing 'Event 41, Kernel Power'. Apparently its to do with PC shutting off all of a sudden. But I restarted PC a few times and it seems ok so hopefully... :O Oh, and my "Update" was just saying how I found out that there is no "BIOS option" / boot menu option, and to get it to it you need to do the UEFI mode things with restart


Yes pressing F11 does that that. (I think thats what I pressed (maybe along with del) and then I recieved the 'pc ran into problem' but could be odd coincidence),


Ok so thats helpful to know...but what if I NEED to access the BIOS upon PC startup/load? E.g I just created a Macrium rescue CD, and to see if works I need to change its CD boot order no no.1. I was able to do this on my HDD by entering BIOS...but how would I do this now? Am I understanding correctly, as I kind of mentioned throughout replying to you, that there is no longer a 'BIOS' or 'press del for BIOS' anymore?

Thanks for your helpful and reassuring message. Really appreciate you taking time to write the long message an understanding my worries :)
 
It's a near-certainty that the system will boot straightaway to the Macrium (bootable) "Rescue" CD. In some cases the Windows-generated message "Press a key to boot to the CD/DVD..." message may appear on the screen in order to do so, but in any event there shouldn't be any significant user intervention. In nearly every case the system will boot to the bootable CD/DVD and no BIOS/UEFI access will be necessary.

I just noticed your question re the partitioning scheme of your boot drive. No, nothing wrong. As a matter of fact we're suggesting more & more to users that they initiate their new intended boot drives with the GPT-partitioning scheme (even if the disk-space capacity of the drive is less than 2 TB. I just wanted to point out that the boot menu of certain motherboards will make a reference to UEFI for that type of partitioned drive, whereas no such designation will be attached to a MBR-partitioned drive. It differs from motherboard-to-motherboard and sometimes confuses users.
 
Ye to confirm, 'UEFI Hard Disk: Windows Boot Manager' is also the 'SSD' boot order in number 1 http://imgur.com/a/2cWHy
It shows the Samsung SSD next to Windows Boot Manager to tell me that the boot manager is the SSD...PHEW!
I was worried as all tuturoaisl I see say choose 'SSD' as boot order 1, and they show an example and it says those 'SSD' words, not 'UEFI Hard Disk: Windows Boot Manager'. But you say it's to do with 'new intended boot drives with the GPT-partitioning scheme ' so you say its all fine.

I got the Macrium rescue CD working. However not sure if it would have 'just loaded' normally. I need to do a 'trial and error' with loading BIOS from boot (by shaming the 'del buttom haha) (instead of the usual 'press del to bring up BIOS') And selecting the CD as boot order. You were right, it did say "Press a key to boot to the CD/DVD..." I think I had to finger a button to get it responding and it then loaded

Looks like loading BIOS and the CD (from "Press a key to boot to the CD/DVD") only works/responds if I mash the key instead of pressing it once..which is odd.

thanks for your help dude! :)