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Hello everyone,

I just bought an ADATA XPG SX900 128 GB SSD Drive a couple weeks ago. I'm using it as my boot drive with Windows 8 Pro 64bits. I have configured all my libraries like Documents, Images and movies to be stored on a Seagate 1Tb drive (also almost new), as well all my apps and program data is in that drive so my SSD is free for just Windows and drivers. I fresh installed Windows, no migration was done, no back up was installed. The first 5 days my SDD flew gorgeously. My boot time was like 8 - 10 seconds, and turn-off time was like 3 - 5 seconds. However as the days went by the boot and turn-off times started to last longer and longer. Now is up to 30 seconds the minimum at start. I ran a bunch of tests on the SSD like Crystal Disk Mark and others and the disk was working good. I even defrag the SSD and that helped for a few boots but then it started to last longer again to start Windows. At last I disconnected all the storage-only drives (Seagate and WD) and just booted the SSD after the defrag and the boot times returned to 10+ seconds. So what's interfering between my SSD and the other drives if the other two drives are just for storage? They are not even full. Hope you can help. Thank you in advance.

My system specs are:

Motherboard: Gigabyte 990FXA-UD3
Processor: AMD FX 8150 8-core 4.0Ghz
Memory: Kingston Hyper-X 8GB @1600Mhz
Video: EVGA GTX 660 Superclocked 2GB
PSU: Cooler Master Silent Pro 1000W
Cooling: Corsair H100i
Case: Cooler Master Haf-X
Drives:
ADATA XPG SX900 128GB SSD
Seagate 1Tb
WD Green 1Tb
 
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ur6beersaway
Solid State Drives can access any location on the drive in the same time. This is one of the main advantages over hard drives. This also means that there is no need to defragment a Solid State Drive ever. These drives have actually been designed to write data evenly in all sectors of the drive which the industry is calling wear leveling. Each sector of a Solid State Drive has a limited number of writes before it cannot be overwritten anymore. (this is a theoretical limit which cannot be reached in work environments)

If you did defragment your Solid State Disk you can rest assured that you did not harm it in any way. It is just that this process is not needed and that defragmentation causes lots of write processes which means that the...
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Its times that you check adata website for issues I have the OCZ 120 The samsung 840 and the KINgston v 300 never as of yet ram into the probd u r having.. I s the adata almost full was it config correct have you tryed a complete format and reinstall of your os?
 
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Thanks aatje92,

Why SSD's shouldn't be defrag?
And why Wndows should wait to load apps at start, the boot time I'm talking about is between the Blue windows logo and my log in screen, it shouldn't be loading anything from the storage drives because there's nothing about the system or windows on that drives just apps and games. Also I have very few applications at start after I log in. Dolby audio, setup, Nvidia control panel, Synapse 2.0 and Norton 360. All of them installed on the SSD drive not on the storage drives.
 
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Solid State Drives can access any location on the drive in the same time. This is one of the main advantages over hard drives. This also means that there is no need to defragment a Solid State Drive ever. These drives have actually been designed to write data evenly in all sectors of the drive which the industry is calling wear leveling. Each sector of a Solid State Drive has a limited number of writes before it cannot be overwritten anymore. (this is a theoretical limit which cannot be reached in work environments)

If you did defragment your Solid State Disk you can rest assured that you did not harm it in any way. It is just that this process is not needed and that defragmentation causes lots of write processes which means that the drive will reach its write limits sooner.

No need for defragmentation is therefor another advantage of Solid State Drives.
 
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Thans johnnyb105,
well I'm asking this because I'm trying to avoid reinstalling windows because is a pain in the assdue to the fact that all apps and games are on the other storage drives. Also I mentioned that It was a fresh installation of windows just 2 or 3 weeks ago. The ADATA alone works fine I've tested it with Crystal Disk Mark. I really want to avoid fresh installation again. It's my last resort.
 
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Thanks ur6beersaway,
I won't defrag again. Auto defrag it's off never turned it on. I've already did the task manager-start up thing. Like I said only a few programs are on start-up. No change. And this is the boot time not the start-up time. From the blue windows logo to my log in screen it's 30+ seconds. If I disconnect all the other drives and just boot from the SSD the boot time is 8 - 10 seconds, maybe less.
 
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I thought of that but why the ADATA SSD drive alone works perfectly. Why should they take it in RMA if the SSD works fine alone. My question is why the other mass storage Drives are affecting my boot time. that also disregard a windows issue.
 
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There is nothing wrong with your setup or your drives.

During Windows startup, the OS will read the file-systems of all partitions in all drives. Therefore, storage HDDs increase Windows startup time as they fills up.

If you format your two storage HDDs, you will notice vast improvement in boot time because the file-systems are empty. The effect is similar to removing the two HDDs from your setup.
 
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Well I used the command "fsutil behavior query DisableDeleteNotify" and it came up as 0 (zero), that means TRIM is enabled. What else can I do before try a new fresh reinstall?
 
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Thanks hsyuts,
Is there something I can do besides format my 1Tb each hard drives? All my life is on those drives. One of them is partitioned in 3. games, photos, documents, back ups, intallation setups, movies, series, music, etc. I don't have a 2TB+ drive where to back all up and format them.

Is there any other solution? Like bypassing the reading of all file-systems of all partitions in all storage drives. And start the reading after I log in to windows? I know 30 seconds of booting time is not much but that's one of the reasons I bought my SSD among another benefits. Maybe I'm overreacting? I don't know, I'm just a little disappointed of the performance.
 
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This is the health tab of the ADATA SSD from HD Tune Pro. And no, is not trial version.

http://sdrv.ms/14IL8vm
 
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Well the STA cable says "6Gb/s" on the little head that connects to the SSD so I assumed that it is 6Gb/s. It came with the motherboard tho. Do I need to buy a new one? How do I know it will work?

I just realized that the cable says on the side "...DERONXIN-T 6Gbps/3Gbps". What does that mean? All cables say the same thing and on both ends they say "6Gb/s" on the little heads. How do I know is the cable? How do I use all 6Gb/s?
 
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6Gb/s cables should have came with the board. If it says 6gb it can run/handle 6gb.
Trying to figure out why its not using 6gb speed. After all it is SATA III.

I guess this is a marketing gimmick:The XPG (Xtreme Performance Gear) SX900 solid state drive uses new optimized firmware to utilize greater storage capacity of the NAND Flash components. With superior NAND Flash technology, the XPG SX900 SSD reaches new levels of stability and performance with expanded capacities. Utilizing the SandForce 2281 controller, the SX900 512 GB SSD boasts a 7% increase over common SSD's in the market today. A milestone in ADATA's history of NAND Flash product brought to you. With maximum sequential read and write speeds of 550/530 MB per second and maximum random 4K write speeds as high as 85,000 IOPS, the ADATA XPG SX900 SSD is poised to take its place as a market and performance leader!
 
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I knew all that from a NCIX article about the XPG SX900, that's why I bought it actually. I tried another cable also says 6Gbps/3Gbps on the side and it's the same speed (only 3Gb/s). What should I do? Firmware of the SSD is up to date I've checked with ADATA's web page. BIOS is also up to date, I upgraded the BIOS myself.

The funny thing and frustrating at the same time is that at the beginning when the drive was fresh it worked no matter if the storage drives were or were not connected. No matter the apps or drivers I installed, It just worked as it should.
 
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Thanks yogi,
Well all storage drive were indexed, I turned it off and it didn't help 🙁

Any other suggestions? Other than format the SSD and reinstall everything?

 
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