News Steam game listings must now flag any kernel-level anti-cheat software integrations

[Admin]

Valve requires game developers to now explicitly mention if their game features anti-cheat tools that operate in the kernel.

Steam game listings must now flag any kernel-level anti-cheat software integrations : Read more

 

[hotaru251]

Honestly keep hoping that rumor of MSFT disabling Kernel access to third parties in future OS turns out true.

 

[das_stig]

Microsoft should be banning any 3rd party software from kernel if its not needed for the operation of the core OS, as in drivers. The only reason they do, is because Microsoft code is rubbish. Full of bad legacy coding, kludges, dirty fixes and pandering to big gaming software houses to ensure Windows remains the primary gaming OS. They need to lock it down, return trust to the users and strip out the crap from Windows, as promised for lean, fast and secure OS, when they went back to drawing board for Windows 10.

 

[purple_dragon]

Honestly, kernel level access is a big security risk. It should already be denied from access by any software.

 

[setx]

Honestly keep hoping that rumor of MSFT disabling Kernel access to third parties in future OS turns out true.

For something useless like Windows-on-ARM – maybe. For x86 it would cripple the OS to the level of ARM.

Microsoft should be banning any 3rd party software from kernel if its not needed for the operation of the core OS, as in drivers. The only reason they do, is because Microsoft code is rubbish. Full of bad legacy coding, kludges, dirty fixes and pandering to big gaming software houses to ensure Windows remains the primary gaming OS. They need to lock it down, return trust to the users and strip out the crap from Windows, as promised for lean, fast and secure OS, when they went back to drawing board for Windows 10.

You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Windows is bearable only due to 3'rd party software.

Let's talk about gamepads for example, in particular DualSense support. There is none in OS, Steam provides something (for wired-only connection I think) and fully functional one is community-written driver. That's not a driver that's "needed for the operation of the core OS" and MS only supports XBox gamepads, so locking down drivers would mean dropping DualSense support.

 

[Sluggotg]

"Developers also have to specify if the anti-cheat modifies OS files and if it can be fully uninstalled using the provided script."

Games leaving behind their anti-cheat modifications to our computers is unacceptable. Reminds me of the Nasty copy protections that would stay on your computer and Gimp performance and make your computer unstable. I had to do complete wipes and re-installs on a few of my machines back in the day to fully remove some of that crap.

Games that leave behind some of their Cheat Protection, (or whatever), should be banned from Steam or at least very prominently high lighted.

 

[AkroZ]

Honestly keep hoping that rumor of MSFT disabling Kernel access to third parties in future OS turns out true.

Since Windows 10 they are licensing kernel access to anybody willing to paid, they don't care what you do with it.
But with the issue with CrowdStrike impacting millions of users, someone at Microsoft said that they should screen access to not allow kernel access to the like of CrowdStrike. They will not stop giving kernel access to third parties.

 

[SexyRussell]

"But that begs the question, would you allow proprietary software to run on your system's most vulnerable and authorized level just to play a game?"
Yeah I've been doing it for years now. It honestly seems like the only people that complain about anti-cheat, even at the kernel level are Fudds or IT techs that shouldn't have these games on their work systems in the first place.