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I now own HL2. If I decide to buy another Steam title in the future, will I
be able to start an entirely new steam account under a different name and
play the new game from that account or will steam somehow try to force me to
keep all games consolidated to one account?
 
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On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 10:24:16 -0500, "JoeSmooth" <f@ke.70053> wrote:

>I now own HL2. If I decide to buy another Steam title in the future, will I
>be able to start an entirely new steam account under a different name and
>play the new game from that account or will steam somehow try to force me to
>keep all games consolidated to one account?

Yes. You are free to choose either of the two paths you want, but once you
make the choice, it can't be undone.

In any case, it's best to keep it under one account. It's one less
password you have to memorize and doesn't require you to keep switching
accounts.
 
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On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 11:13:39 -0500, bk039@ncf.ca (Raymond Martineau)
wrote:

>On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 10:24:16 -0500, "JoeSmooth" <f@ke.70053> wrote:
>
>>I now own HL2. If I decide to buy another Steam title in the future, will I
>>be able to start an entirely new steam account under a different name and
>>play the new game from that account or will steam somehow try to force me to
>>keep all games consolidated to one account?
>
>Yes. You are free to choose either of the two paths you want, but once you
>make the choice, it can't be undone.
>
>In any case, it's best to keep it under one account. It's one less
>password you have to memorize and doesn't require you to keep switching
>accounts.

You can use the same password for all accounts and only change it when
you are about to give your account away.
--
Noman
 
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"noman" <ZZZYYno_m_anZZZYY@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 11:13:39 -0500, bk039@ncf.ca (Raymond Martineau)
> wrote:
>
> >On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 10:24:16 -0500, "JoeSmooth" <f@ke.70053> wrote:
> >
> >>I now own HL2. If I decide to buy another Steam title in the future,
will I
> >>be able to start an entirely new steam account under a different name
and
> >>play the new game from that account or will steam somehow try to force
me to
> >>keep all games consolidated to one account?
> >
> >Yes. You are free to choose either of the two paths you want, but once
you
> >make the choice, it can't be undone.
> >
> >In any case, it's best to keep it under one account. It's one less
> >password you have to memorize and doesn't require you to keep switching
> >accounts.
>
> You can use the same password for all accounts and only change it when
> you are about to give your account away.

Maybe you answered my next question... If I want to sell the game I'd have
to sell the account with it. So if I use one account and one password I
can't sell just one game, only all the games at once, right? If so, I'd be
better off making one account per game.


> --
> Noman
>
 
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On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 13:18:22 -0500, "JoeSmooth" <f@ke.70053> wrote:

>
>"noman" <ZZZYYno_m_anZZZYY@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:41ec0024.233768791@news.individual.net...
>> On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 11:13:39 -0500, bk039@ncf.ca (Raymond Martineau)
>> wrote:
>>
>> >In any case, it's best to keep it under one account. It's one less
>> >password you have to memorize and doesn't require you to keep switching
>> >accounts.
>>
>> You can use the same password for all accounts and only change it when
>> you are about to give your account away.
>
>Maybe you answered my next question... If I want to sell the game I'd have
>to sell the account with it. So if I use one account and one password I
>can't sell just one game, only all the games at once, right? If so, I'd be
>better off making one account per game.
>

Valve claims that is against the EULA, and but feel free to do it anyway.
(They can't really enforce it, other than checking for randomly generated
account names.)
 
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"Raymond Martineau" <bk039@ncf.ca> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 13:18:22 -0500, "JoeSmooth" <f@ke.70053> wrote:
>
> >
> >"noman" <ZZZYYno_m_anZZZYY@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >news:41ec0024.233768791@news.individual.net...
> >> On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 11:13:39 -0500, bk039@ncf.ca (Raymond Martineau)
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >In any case, it's best to keep it under one account. It's one less
> >> >password you have to memorize and doesn't require you to keep
switching
> >> >accounts.
> >>
> >> You can use the same password for all accounts and only change it when
> >> you are about to give your account away.
> >
> >Maybe you answered my next question... If I want to sell the game I'd
have
> >to sell the account with it. So if I use one account and one password I
> >can't sell just one game, only all the games at once, right? If so, I'd
be
> >better off making one account per game.
> >
>
> Valve claims that is against the EULA, and but feel free to do it anyway.
> (They can't really enforce it, other than checking for randomly generated
> account names.)

Thanks... one more clarification if you will...

So, I read some post saying that when setup a steam account and log on that
it scans your hard drive and finds all steam hosted games (even older
pre-steam games). At that point, Steam adds those games to your account
then makes the keys obsolete. Is this accurate or is this BS?

Now, the CDs containing the games aren't going to know their keys have been
made obsolete, so of course the keys will still work with the games. And
any stand alone patches are going to work and not require the keys either.
So, I guess the only thing this effects is pre-steam games that were used
for MP or something like that. I'm not really sure what the big deal is
other than suddenly having all your games consolidated into one account. If
you were to try to resell one of the titles for MP play the new owner
couldn't use the game (unless you sold the account with it) because he
couldn't get on a legal server. Is that about right?
>
>
 
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On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 18:13:36 GMT, ZZZYYno_m_anZZZYY@yahoo.com (noman)
wrote:

>On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 11:13:39 -0500, bk039@ncf.ca (Raymond Martineau)
>wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 10:24:16 -0500, "JoeSmooth" <f@ke.70053> wrote:
>>
>>>I now own HL2. If I decide to buy another Steam title in the future, will I
>>>be able to start an entirely new steam account under a different name and
>>>play the new game from that account or will steam somehow try to force me to
>>>keep all games consolidated to one account?
>>
>>Yes. You are free to choose either of the two paths you want, but once you
>>make the choice, it can't be undone.
>>
>>In any case, it's best to keep it under one account. It's one less
>>password you have to memorize and doesn't require you to keep switching
>>accounts.
>
>You can use the same password for all accounts and only change it when
>you are about to give your account away.

Can't do that according to Valve. Now passing on your posting to
Gabe.... expect to see your account canceled. Too bad. So sad.

John Lewis

>--
>Noman
>
 
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JoeSmooth wrote:
> I now own HL2. If I decide to buy another Steam title in the future,
> will I be able to start an entirely new steam account under a
> different name and play the new game from that account or will steam
> somehow try to force me to keep all games consolidated to one account?

yes
 
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JoeSmooth wrote:
> I now own HL2. If I decide to buy another Steam title in the future, will I
> be able to start an entirely new steam account under a different name and
> play the new game from that account or will steam somehow try to force me to
> keep all games consolidated to one account?
>
>
>

You should know the answer to that. It really isnt difficult. I thought
higher of you than this blatant troll.
 
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On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 04:01:58 +0100, Walter Mitty
<mitticus@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>JoeSmooth wrote:
>> I now own HL2. If I decide to buy another Steam title in the future, will I
>> be able to start an entirely new steam account under a different name and
>> play the new game from that account or will steam somehow try to force me to
>> keep all games consolidated to one account?
>>
>>
>>
>
>You should know the answer to that. It really isnt difficult. I thought
>higher of you than this blatant troll.


Ah.... Gabe's oracle has spoken. Such questioning words as those of
the OP concerning the Steam idol of Almightly Valve are blasphemy.
None such words are ever to be uttered again by any of Valve's
worshippers, under the pain of excommunication --- which shall render
the silver discs given to all worshippers in retail temples ( in
exchange for their alms) totally useless........

John Lewis
 
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"Walter Mitty" <mitticus@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:cshu75$d77$03$4@news.t-online.com...
> JoeSmooth wrote:
> > I now own HL2. If I decide to buy another Steam title in the future,
will I
> > be able to start an entirely new steam account under a different name
and
> > play the new game from that account or will steam somehow try to force
me to
> > keep all games consolidated to one account?
> >
> >
> >
>
> You should know the answer to that. It really isnt difficult. I thought
> higher of you than this blatant troll.

What I know I've gleened from threads here on the newsgroup (and we both
know how bias those sources can sometimes be). I'm just trying to get clear
on a few issues before I make future purchases and the answers should help
others as well. Why the hell that makes me a troll, I donno. Would you
rather I just make assumptions about Steam and act out of ignorance? You've
accused me (and others) of that several times. With you, in this case, I'm
damened if I do, damned if I don't.
 
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JoeSmooth wrote:
> "Walter Mitty" <mitticus@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:cshu75$d77$03$4@news.t-online.com...
>
>>JoeSmooth wrote:
>>
>>>I now own HL2. If I decide to buy another Steam title in the future,
>
> will I
>
>>>be able to start an entirely new steam account under a different name
>
> and
>
>>>play the new game from that account or will steam somehow try to force
>
> me to
>
>>>keep all games consolidated to one account?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>You should know the answer to that. It really isnt difficult. I thought
>>higher of you than this blatant troll.
>
>
> What I know I've gleened from threads here on the newsgroup (and we both
> know how bias those sources can sometimes be). I'm just trying to get clear
> on a few issues before I make future purchases and the answers should help
> others as well. Why the hell that makes me a troll, I donno. Would you
> rather I just make assumptions about Steam and act out of ignorance? You've
> accused me (and others) of that several times. With you, in this case, I'm
> damened if I do, damned if I don't.
>

Oh come on , puh-leaze. Read what you asked.

Here : If I buy a new game am I able to associate it with a new steam
account?

Since you can have as many Steam accounts as you want, why on earth
would you not be able to associate your new game with the new account?

The acocunts are in no way linked. When you create a Steam account, does
it somehow already know you have another? of courese not. Thats how
multiple people can log into steam on the same computer : multiple accounts.


It is so blindingly obvious I mistakenly assumed you were trolling.
 
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"Walter Mitty" <mitticus@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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> JoeSmooth wrote:
> > "Walter Mitty" <mitticus@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:cshu75$d77$03$4@news.t-online.com...
> >
> >>JoeSmooth wrote:
> >>
> >>>I now own HL2. If I decide to buy another Steam title in the future,
> >
> > will I
> >
> >>>be able to start an entirely new steam account under a different name
> >
> > and
> >
> >>>play the new game from that account or will steam somehow try to force
> >
> > me to
> >
> >>>keep all games consolidated to one account?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>You should know the answer to that. It really isnt difficult. I thought
> >>higher of you than this blatant troll.
> >
> >
> > What I know I've gleened from threads here on the newsgroup (and we both
> > know how bias those sources can sometimes be). I'm just trying to get
clear
> > on a few issues before I make future purchases and the answers should
help
> > others as well. Why the hell that makes me a troll, I donno. Would you
> > rather I just make assumptions about Steam and act out of ignorance?
You've
> > accused me (and others) of that several times. With you, in this case,
I'm
> > damened if I do, damned if I don't.
> >
>
> Oh come on , puh-leaze. Read what you asked.
>
> Here : If I buy a new game am I able to associate it with a new steam
> account?
>
> Since you can have as many Steam accounts as you want, why on earth
> would you not be able to associate your new game with the new account?
>
> The acocunts are in no way linked. When you create a Steam account, does
> it somehow already know you have another? of courese not.

I also read here in this trusty newsgroup that Steam scans your HD and that
it looks for other steam related titles (even if they are pre-steam titles)
and it consolidates them into one account (for MP play?) and while doing so
it makes the keys obsolete. If so, then would multiple accounts create some
kind of conflict the next time Steam scans your HD? If it doesn't know you
already have another account, then why wouldn't it try to consolidate those
"other steam account games" into "this steam account games"? Granted I
could be misinformed about what steam does or doesn't do in terms of HD
scans and account consolidations, but that's why posted... to get clear
about it. BTW, is there a preference you can turn off so that steam does
NOT consolidate your games into one account?

> Thats how
> multiple people can log into steam on the same computer : multiple
accounts.

I suppose if two different people owning two different steam games installed
them on the same computer, then it would make sense that each individual
owner should each have their own steam account. If I'm not misinformed
about they way a steam account will retoractively consolidate pre-steam
games, then that means it's likely steam will consolidate different owners
into one account the first time it's installed (assuming this function is a
default function). Again, could be wrong on this and I welcome you to set
me straight.

>
>
> It is so blindingly obvious I mistakenly assumed you were trolling.

IMO, you probably mistakened me for trolling because you know I'm anti-steam
and so you read-into my otherwise neutral post. Maybe I'm guiliting of
overthinking the problem, but I think there's enough misinformation around
to justify a little confusion.

Nevertheless, thanks for the info, and if you can set me straight, thanks
all the more. However someone feels about Steam it's clearly better not to
be ignorant about it.
 
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Walter Mitty wrote:

>
> The acocunts

Nice typo. To any Acos out there, I apologise.
 
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On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 13:44:10 -0500, "JoeSmooth" <f@ke.70053> wrote:

>
>"Walter Mitty" <mitticus@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:csjffe$5pq$00$1@news.t-online.com...
>> JoeSmooth wrote:
>> > "Walter Mitty" <mitticus@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>> > news:cshu75$d77$03$4@news.t-online.com...
>> >
>> >>JoeSmooth wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>I now own HL2. If I decide to buy another Steam title in the future,
>> >
>> > will I
>> >
>> >>>be able to start an entirely new steam account under a different name
>> >
>> > and
>> >
>> >>>play the new game from that account or will steam somehow try to force
>> >
>> > me to
>> >
>> >>>keep all games consolidated to one account?
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>You should know the answer to that. It really isnt difficult. I thought
>> >>higher of you than this blatant troll.
>> >
>> >
>> > What I know I've gleened from threads here on the newsgroup (and we both
>> > know how bias those sources can sometimes be). I'm just trying to get
>clear
>> > on a few issues before I make future purchases and the answers should
>help
>> > others as well. Why the hell that makes me a troll, I donno. Would you
>> > rather I just make assumptions about Steam and act out of ignorance?
>You've
>> > accused me (and others) of that several times. With you, in this case,
>I'm
>> > damened if I do, damned if I don't.
>> >
>>
>> Oh come on , puh-leaze. Read what you asked.
>>
>> Here : If I buy a new game am I able to associate it with a new steam
>> account?
>>
>> Since you can have as many Steam accounts as you want, why on earth
>> would you not be able to associate your new game with the new account?
>>
>> The acocunts are in no way linked. When you create a Steam account, does
>> it somehow already know you have another? of courese not.
>
>I also read here in this trusty newsgroup that Steam scans your HD and that
>it looks for other steam related titles (even if they are pre-steam titles)
>and it consolidates them into one account (for MP play?) and while doing so
>it makes the keys obsolete. If so, then would multiple accounts create some
>kind of conflict the next time Steam scans your HD? If it doesn't know you
>already have another account, then why wouldn't it try to consolidate those
>"other steam account games" into "this steam account games"? Granted I
>could be misinformed about what steam does or doesn't do in terms of HD
>scans and account consolidations, but that's why posted... to get clear
>about it. BTW, is there a preference you can turn off so that steam does
>NOT consolidate your games into one account?
>
>> Thats how
>> multiple people can log into steam on the same computer : multiple
>accounts.
>
>I suppose if two different people owning two different steam games installed
>them on the same computer, then it would make sense that each individual
>owner should each have their own steam account. If I'm not misinformed
>about they way a steam account will retoractively consolidate pre-steam
>games, then that means it's likely steam will consolidate different owners
>into one account the first time it's installed (assuming this function is a
>default function). Again, could be wrong on this and I welcome you to set
>me straight.
>

A very interesting question indeed...........
Certainly one that needs complete clarification before the purchase of
another Steam game.

Anybody got two differently-named Steam accounts under the same XP
log-in ?

Maybe somebody who has purchased CS:C0 and has also purchased
HL2 and placed them under different Steam account names can
let us know whether Steam ever attempted such consolidation.

John Lewis
 
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"JoeSmooth" <f@ke.70053> wrote in message
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> So, I read some post saying that when setup a steam account and log on
that
> it scans your hard drive and finds all steam hosted games (even older
> pre-steam games). At that point, Steam adds those games to your account
> then makes the keys obsolete. Is this accurate or is this BS?
>
> Now, the CDs containing the games aren't going to know their keys have
been
> made obsolete, so of course the keys will still work with the games. And
> any stand alone patches are going to work and not require the keys either.
> So, I guess the only thing this effects is pre-steam games that were used
> for MP or something like that. I'm not really sure what the big deal is
> other than suddenly having all your games consolidated into one account.
If
> you were to try to resell one of the titles for MP play the new owner
> couldn't use the game (unless you sold the account with it) because he
> couldn't get on a legal server. Is that about right?

Why not simply use the Steam emulator? No Steam account to get locked out or
worry whether you can easily sell the game because you have other Valve
titles, etc. Just say no to Steam.
 
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"Kroagnon" <kroagnon@kroagnon.com> wrote in message
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>
> "JoeSmooth" <f@ke.70053> wrote in message
> news:41ec562d$0$63178$4d5ecec7@reader.city-
> > So, I read some post saying that when setup a steam account and log on
> that
> > it scans your hard drive and finds all steam hosted games (even older
> > pre-steam games). At that point, Steam adds those games to your account
> > then makes the keys obsolete. Is this accurate or is this BS?
> >
> > Now, the CDs containing the games aren't going to know their keys have
> been
> > made obsolete, so of course the keys will still work with the games.
And
> > any stand alone patches are going to work and not require the keys
either.
> > So, I guess the only thing this effects is pre-steam games that were
used
> > for MP or something like that. I'm not really sure what the big deal is
> > other than suddenly having all your games consolidated into one account.
> If
> > you were to try to resell one of the titles for MP play the new owner
> > couldn't use the game (unless you sold the account with it) because he
> > couldn't get on a legal server. Is that about right?
>
> Why not simply use the Steam emulator? No Steam account to get locked out
or
> worry whether you can easily sell the game because you have other Valve
> titles, etc. Just say no to Steam.

Something to think about. I'm no pirate and all I ever use are no-cd
cracks and I rarely play online with my 56k modem anyway. But... well,
something to think about.



>
>