Still Image Monitor

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When I use a scanner, Still Image Monitor (stimon) is inserted into the
start-up group and stays there in subsequent sessions until I delete it in
MSconfig. This is true even if the scanner has been disconnected. I'd put up
with it except that it can and does crash Windows Explorer on occasion, and
it also hides my "connected" icon in the symbol tray. I'm wondering if this
feature is really necessary and could be deleted permanently. If it is
necessary, can I configure something in the registry so that it's invoked
only on an as-needed basis? (Win98SE)

 

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STIMON's purpose is to receive signals from the scanner when you press the
"Scan" button on the scanner itself. When it gets the signal, it launches
the scanner interface. If it's your habit to put something into the scanner
and then press a button on that scanner, instead of launching the
appropriate application and using Acquire, you need STIMON. Otherwise, you
don't.

To remove STIMON from your startup queue, go to the Start\Run box, type in
REGEDIT, then <Enter>. In Registry Editor, drill down to
HKEY_Local_Machine\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunServices.
Locate the entry for STIMON and delete it.

Many scanner software packages include other apps that are started up with
Windows, and some of them may automatically re-insert STIMON as a Service.
If so, you need to further review your needs--can you get along without
whatever functions are provided by this software running in the background,
or can you simply launch it when necessary (if ever.)

Other than to monitor the button(s) on the scanner itself, STIMON has no
purpose. IOW, there's no purpose in launching it manually.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User


"Roger Fink" <fink@*****.net> wrote in message
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> When I use a scanner, Still Image Monitor (stimon) is inserted into the
> start-up group and stays there in subsequent sessions until I delete it in
> MSconfig. This is true even if the scanner has been disconnected. I'd put
> up
> with it except that it can and does crash Windows Explorer on occasion,
> and
> it also hides my "connected" icon in the symbol tray. I'm wondering if
> this
> feature is really necessary and could be deleted permanently. If it is
> necessary, can I configure something in the registry so that it's invoked
> only on an as-needed basis? (Win98SE)
>
>

 

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Description of Still Image Monitor (Stimon.exe)
http://support.microsoft.com?kbid=257815

Error Message When You Start Computer: Stimon Caused an Invalid Page Fault in
Kernel32.dll:
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=306393

If you disable stimon (renaming the file and deleting the Registry entry), your
scanner's push-buttons won't work, if the scanner has them. If that is not a
concern, try disabling it as described in the articles above. You need not use Safe
Mode or a DOS boot as the second article describes, since your system is not having
any trouble starting with stimon enabled.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"Roger Fink" <fink@*****.net> wrote in message
news:up$tQtBsFHA.4072@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> When I use a scanner, Still Image Monitor (stimon) is inserted into the
> start-up group and stays there in subsequent sessions until I delete it in
> MSconfig. This is true even if the scanner has been disconnected. I'd put up
> with it except that it can and does crash Windows Explorer on occasion, and
> it also hides my "connected" icon in the symbol tray. I'm wondering if this
> feature is really necessary and could be deleted permanently. If it is
> necessary, can I configure something in the registry so that it's invoked
> only on an as-needed basis? (Win98SE)
>
>

 

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"Roger Fink" <fink@*****.net> wrote in message
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> When I use a scanner, Still Image Monitor (stimon) is inserted into the
> start-up group and stays there in subsequent sessions until I delete it in
> MSconfig. This is true even if the scanner has been disconnected. I'd put
up
> with it except that it can and does crash Windows Explorer on occasion,
and
> it also hides my "connected" icon in the symbol tray. I'm wondering if
this
> feature is really necessary and could be deleted permanently. If it is

Some brands of peripheral (e.g. Epson multifunction
units) may require STIMON to be loaded for the
scanner to respond to custom Epson software.

--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)

 

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The way I've had to do it recently is somewhere in between those two
options, by using the scanner software you alluded to. I never had a problem
acquiring with Paintshop Pro, but once you use Picasa2 you can't go back,
and I haven't been able to get the acquire feature to work with Picasa2
(possibly not the program's fault). So I launch the Canon "Toolbox", a
software console that let's you program the physical buttons and coordinates
everything. As I recall, the last thing you do on the toolbox is to click a
button that sends it to Picasa, opening it up if necessary. Sounds like
another way of hitting the physical scanner button to me but a second
opinion might help. If I'm correct this means that at the moment I still
need stimon. I take it there is no registry setting to override Canon's
launching it, if that's what's happening, and just keep it closed until
needed.

It's a little cumbersome, but the other option is just to use PSP, save it,
and then come back and edit/manipulate it with Picassa, which is the real
strength of the program.


Gary S. Terhune wrote:
> STIMON's purpose is to receive signals from the scanner when you
> press the "Scan" button on the scanner itself. When it gets the
> signal, it launches the scanner interface. If it's your habit to put
> something into the scanner and then press a button on that scanner,
> instead of launching the appropriate application and using Acquire,
> you need STIMON. Otherwise, you don't.
>
> To remove STIMON from your startup queue, go to the Start\Run box,
> type in REGEDIT, then <Enter>. In Registry Editor, drill down to
> HKEY_Local_Machine\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunServices.
> Locate the entry for STIMON and delete it.
>
> Many scanner software packages include other apps that are started up
> with Windows, and some of them may automatically re-insert STIMON as
> a Service. If so, you need to further review your needs--can you get
> along without whatever functions are provided by this software
> running in the background, or can you simply launch it when necessary
> (if ever.)
>
> Other than to monitor the button(s) on the scanner itself, STIMON has
> no purpose. IOW, there's no purpose in launching it manually.
>
>
> "Roger Fink" <fink@*****.net> wrote in message
> news:up$tQtBsFHA.4072@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> When I use a scanner, Still Image Monitor (stimon) is inserted into
>> the start-up group and stays there in subsequent sessions until I
>> delete it in MSconfig. This is true even if the scanner has been
>> disconnected. I'd put up
>> with it except that it can and does crash Windows Explorer on
>> occasion, and
>> it also hides my "connected" icon in the symbol tray. I'm wondering
>> if this
>> feature is really necessary and could be deleted permanently. If it
>> is necessary, can I configure something in the registry so that it's
>> invoked only on an as-needed basis? (Win98SE)

 

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glee wrote:
> Description of Still Image Monitor (Stimon.exe)
> http://support.microsoft.com?kbid=257815
>
> Error Message When You Start Computer: Stimon Caused an Invalid Page
> Fault in Kernel32.dll:
> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=306393
>
> If you disable stimon (renaming the file and deleting the Registry
> entry), your scanner's push-buttons won't work, if the scanner has
> them. If that is not a concern, try disabling it as described in the
> articles above. You need not use Safe Mode or a DOS boot as the
> second article describes, since your system is not having any trouble
> starting with stimon enabled.
>
> "Roger Fink" <fink@*****.net> wrote in message
> news:up$tQtBsFHA.4072@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> When I use a scanner, Still Image Monitor (stimon) is inserted into
>> the
>> start-up group and stays there in subsequent sessions until I delete
>> it in MSconfig. This is true even if the scanner has been
>> disconnected. I'd put up
>> with it except that it can and does crash Windows Explorer on
>> occasion, and
>> it also hides my "connected" icon in the symbol tray. I'm wondering
>> if this feature is really necessary and could be deleted
>> permanently. If it is
>> necessary, can I configure something in the registry so that it's
>> invoked
>> only on an as-needed basis? (Win98SE)

I never use the buttons, but launching the scan from the Toolbox may be in
essence the same thing, not sure, as I noted above.

 

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No, read the article again. STIMON is not required. It's purpose is to
launch that scanner interface when a button is pushed on the scanner itself.
Launching the interface manually does not require STIMON.

Anyway, delete the Registry entry I told you about and test. If you use
File>Export in REGEDIT to Export the entry before you delete it, it's easy
to restore if you decide to keep it.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User

"Roger Fink" <fink@*****.net> wrote in message
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> glee wrote:
>> Description of Still Image Monitor (Stimon.exe)
>> http://support.microsoft.com?kbid=257815
>>
>> Error Message When You Start Computer: Stimon Caused an Invalid Page
>> Fault in Kernel32.dll:
>> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=306393
>>
>> If you disable stimon (renaming the file and deleting the Registry
>> entry), your scanner's push-buttons won't work, if the scanner has
>> them. If that is not a concern, try disabling it as described in the
>> articles above. You need not use Safe Mode or a DOS boot as the
>> second article describes, since your system is not having any trouble
>> starting with stimon enabled.
>>
>> "Roger Fink" <fink@*****.net> wrote in message
>> news:up$tQtBsFHA.4072@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>>> When I use a scanner, Still Image Monitor (stimon) is inserted into
>>> the
>>> start-up group and stays there in subsequent sessions until I delete
>>> it in MSconfig. This is true even if the scanner has been
>>> disconnected. I'd put up
>>> with it except that it can and does crash Windows Explorer on
>>> occasion, and
>>> it also hides my "connected" icon in the symbol tray. I'm wondering
>>> if this feature is really necessary and could be deleted
>>> permanently. If it is
>>> necessary, can I configure something in the registry so that it's
>>> invoked
>>> only on an as-needed basis? (Win98SE)
>
> I never use the buttons, but launching the scan from the Toolbox may be in
> essence the same thing, not sure, as I noted above.
>
>

 

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From: "Roger Fink" <fink@*****.net>

| The way I've had to do it recently is somewhere in between those two
| options, by using the scanner software you alluded to. I never had a problem
| acquiring with Paintshop Pro, but once you use Picasa2 you can't go back,
| and I haven't been able to get the acquire feature to work with Picasa2
| (possibly not the program's fault). So I launch the Canon "Toolbox", a
| software console that let's you program the physical buttons and coordinates
| everything. As I recall, the last thing you do on the toolbox is to click a
| button that sends it to Picasa, opening it up if necessary. Sounds like
| another way of hitting the physical scanner button to me but a second
| opinion might help. If I'm correct this means that at the moment I still
| need stimon. I take it there is no registry setting to override Canon's
| launching it, if that's what's happening, and just keep it closed until
| needed.
|
| It's a little cumbersome, but the other option is just to use PSP, save it,
| and then come back and edit/manipulate it with Picassa, which is the real
| strength of the program.
|

Does not Picassa have its own TWAIN scanner interface ?

Any decent graphics editing/manipulation program has it.
For example; PowerPoint, PSP, Adobe PhotoShop, Adobe PhotoShop Elements,etc.

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David H. Lipman wrote:
> From: "Roger Fink" <fink@*****.net>
>
>> The way I've had to do it recently is somewhere in between those two
>> options, by using the scanner software you alluded to. I never had a
>> problem acquiring with Paintshop Pro, but once you use Picasa2 you
>> can't go back, and I haven't been able to get the acquire feature to
>> work with Picasa2 (possibly not the program's fault). So I launch
>> the Canon "Toolbox", a software console that let's you program the
>> physical buttons and coordinates everything. As I recall, the last
>> thing you do on the toolbox is to click a button that sends it to
>> Picasa, opening it up if necessary. Sounds like another way of
>> hitting the physical scanner button to me but a second opinion might
>> help. If I'm correct this means that at the moment I still need
>> stimon. I take it there is no registry setting to override Canon's
>> launching it, if that's what's happening, and just keep it closed
>> until needed.
>>
>> It's a little cumbersome, but the other option is just to use PSP,
>> save it, and then come back and edit/manipulate it with Picassa,
>> which is the real strength of the program.
>>
>
> Does not Picassa have its own TWAIN scanner interface ?
>
> Any decent graphics editing/manipulation program has it.
> For example; PowerPoint, PSP, Adobe PhotoShop, Adobe PhotoShop
> Elements,etc.

Yes it does, but as I mentioned, I'm having trouble getting it to do the
Acquire.

 

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From: "Roger Fink" <fink@*****.net>


|
| Yes it does, but as I mentioned, I'm having trouble getting it to do the
| Acquire.
|

Then there is most likely a problem with the TWAIN driver for the scanner.

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OK, I'll try it over the weekend. If there are any surprises, or not, I'll
report back.
Thanks

Gary S. Terhune wrote:
> No, read the article again. STIMON is not required. It's purpose is to
> launch that scanner interface when a button is pushed on the scanner
> itself. Launching the interface manually does not require STIMON.
>
> Anyway, delete the Registry entry I told you about and test. If you
> use File>Export in REGEDIT to Export the entry before you delete it,
> it's easy to restore if you decide to keep it.
>
>
> "Roger Fink" <fink@*****.net> wrote in message
> news:uusbYNCsFHA.2876@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> glee wrote:
>>> Description of Still Image Monitor (Stimon.exe)
>>> http://support.microsoft.com?kbid=257815
>>>
>>> Error Message When You Start Computer: Stimon Caused an Invalid Page
>>> Fault in Kernel32.dll:
>>> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=306393
>>>
>>> If you disable stimon (renaming the file and deleting the Registry
>>> entry), your scanner's push-buttons won't work, if the scanner has
>>> them. If that is not a concern, try disabling it as described in
>>> the articles above. You need not use Safe Mode or a DOS boot as the
>>> second article describes, since your system is not having any
>>> trouble starting with stimon enabled.
>>>
>>> "Roger Fink" <fink@*****.net> wrote in message
>>> news:up$tQtBsFHA.4072@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>>>> When I use a scanner, Still Image Monitor (stimon) is inserted into
>>>> the
>>>> start-up group and stays there in subsequent sessions until I
>>>> delete
>>>> it in MSconfig. This is true even if the scanner has been
>>>> disconnected. I'd put up
>>>> with it except that it can and does crash Windows Explorer on
>>>> occasion, and
>>>> it also hides my "connected" icon in the symbol tray. I'm wondering
>>>> if this feature is really necessary and could be deleted
>>>> permanently. If it is
>>>> necessary, can I configure something in the registry so that it's
>>>> invoked
>>>> only on an as-needed basis? (Win98SE)
>>
>> I never use the buttons, but launching the scan from the Toolbox may
>> be in essence the same thing, not sure, as I noted above.

 

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I do not use the software that you have but it's possible that launching and using
the "Toolbox" may as a side effect re-enable loading stimon at startup, as seen in
msconfig.

You might as an alternative try out this little tool:
http://www.smatters.com/stimon/readme.txt
Direct download:
http://smatters.com/stimon/sti_fix.zip
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"Roger Fink" <fink@*****.net> wrote in message
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> glee wrote:
> > Description of Still Image Monitor (Stimon.exe)
> > http://support.microsoft.com?kbid=257815
> >
> > Error Message When You Start Computer: Stimon Caused an Invalid Page
> > Fault in Kernel32.dll:
> > http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=306393
> >
> > If you disable stimon (renaming the file and deleting the Registry
> > entry), your scanner's push-buttons won't work, if the scanner has
> > them. If that is not a concern, try disabling it as described in the
> > articles above. You need not use Safe Mode or a DOS boot as the
> > second article describes, since your system is not having any trouble
> > starting with stimon enabled.
> >
> > "Roger Fink" <fink@*****.net> wrote in message
> > news:up$tQtBsFHA.4072@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> >> When I use a scanner, Still Image Monitor (stimon) is inserted into
> >> the
> >> start-up group and stays there in subsequent sessions until I delete
> >> it in MSconfig. This is true even if the scanner has been
> >> disconnected. I'd put up
> >> with it except that it can and does crash Windows Explorer on
> >> occasion, and
> >> it also hides my "connected" icon in the symbol tray. I'm wondering
> >> if this feature is really necessary and could be deleted
> >> permanently. If it is
> >> necessary, can I configure something in the registry so that it's
> >> invoked
> >> only on an as-needed basis? (Win98SE)
>
> I never use the buttons, but launching the scan from the Toolbox may be in
> essence the same thing, not sure, as I noted above.
>
>

 

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I'll know soon enough, since I'm going to delete it as Gary described and
see what happens. In addition to the program you suggest, this looks
interesting as well.

http://www.mlin.net/StartupMonitor.shtml

I believe this works similarly to an email whitelist. What got me interested
in it was RealPlayer, which I'd like to update sometime, but not at the
expense of the monitoring feature that's loaded at every start-up. There is
no hack for this that I've been able to find. Not that different from
spyware - thug disguised in a three piece suit.

glee wrote:
> I do not use the software that you have but it's possible that
> launching and using the "Toolbox" may as a side effect re-enable
> loading stimon at startup, as seen in msconfig.
>

 

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On Fri, 2 Sep 2005 20:06:19 -0400, "Roger Fink" <fink@*****.net> put
finger to keyboard and composed:

>When I use a scanner, Still Image Monitor (stimon) is inserted into the
>start-up group and stays there in subsequent sessions until I delete it in
>MSconfig. This is true even if the scanner has been disconnected. I'd put up
>with it except that it can and does crash Windows Explorer on occasion, and
>it also hides my "connected" icon in the symbol tray. I'm wondering if this
>feature is really necessary and could be deleted permanently. If it is
>necessary, can I configure something in the registry so that it's invoked
>only on an as-needed basis? (Win98SE)

I think other Twain sources such as digicams may require stimon for
certain functions. Kodak's Easyshare comes to mind.

In any case I have a desktop shortcut which points to a batch file
which launches stimon and the Canon toolbox on demand. I also have a
housekeeping section in my autoexec.bat file that is executed just
prior to shutdown. If by "start-up group" you mean the folder named
"C:\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\StartUp", then you could add an
appropriate DELete command to your autoexec.bat for housekeeping
purposes. Otherwise, if stimon appears in the "Run" key(s) in your
registry, then you *may* be able to use the command line options of
regedit to automate a registry cleanup just prior to boot or just
before shutdown.


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On Fri, 2 Sep 2005 18:32:32 -0700, "Gary S. Terhune"
<grystnews@mvps.org> put finger to keyboard and composed:

>No, read the article again. STIMON is not required. It's purpose is to
>launch that scanner interface when a button is pushed on the scanner itself.
>Launching the interface manually does not require STIMON.

No. I have a Canon MP370 printer/scanner/copier. The Canon MP Toolbox
will not see the scanner until stimon is launched. I've had to write a
little batch file to automate this for me.


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"Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 2 Sep 2005 18:32:32 -0700, "Gary S. Terhune"
> <grystnews@mvps.org> put finger to keyboard and composed:
>
>>No, read the article again. STIMON is not required. It's purpose is to
>>launch that scanner interface when a button is pushed on the scanner
>>itself.
>>Launching the interface manually does not require STIMON.
>
> No. I have a Canon MP370 printer/scanner/copier. The Canon MP Toolbox
> will not see the scanner until stimon is launched. I've had to write a
> little batch file to automate this for me.

First I've heard of that. Restoring STIMON to the startup queue, sure,
but....

Well, there's always that exception that proves the rule, eh? (And now I'll
get a reply or five telling me all about the other cases where this is true,
<bg>)

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User

 

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Well I didn't try removing the registry entry, but as it turns out it's kind
of
incidental to the proceedings:

1. Reinstalled TWAIN driver and updated Picasa2; now both editing programs,
Picasa & PSP, are able to acquire the image directly.
2. Unchecked STIMON in MSconfig and rebooted.
3. With STIMON unchecked, attempted to acquire a photo image using each
editing program. Error box - no success.
4. Checked STIMON in MSconfig and rebooted. Can now successfully acquire the
image with each editing program.

This model scanner, Canon 4200F, maybe because it's newer than the
information you cited, requires Still Image Monitor to be running for the
Acquire function of the editing programs to work. That may defy logic, but,
hey, we're talking about computers here.

Also, FWIW, in my registry the StillImageMonitor entry is under the Run
(enabled), Run- (disabled) keys,
not Runservices, or the other "Runvariants".


Gary S. Terhune wrote:
> No, read the article again. STIMON is not required. It's purpose is to
> launch that scanner interface when a button is pushed on the scanner
> itself. Launching the interface manually does not require STIMON.
>
> Anyway, delete the Registry entry I told you about and test. If you
> use File>Export in REGEDIT to Export the entry before you delete it,
> it's easy to restore if you decide to keep it.
>
>
> "Roger Fink" <fink@*****.net> wrote in message
> news:uusbYNCsFHA.2876@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> glee wrote:
>>> Description of Still Image Monitor (Stimon.exe)
>>> http://support.microsoft.com?kbid=257815
>>>
>>> Error Message When You Start Computer: Stimon Caused an Invalid Page
>>> Fault in Kernel32.dll:
>>> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=306393
>>>
>>> If you disable stimon (renaming the file and deleting the Registry
>>> entry), your scanner's push-buttons won't work, if the scanner has
>>> them. If that is not a concern, try disabling it as described in
>>> the articles above. You need not use Safe Mode or a DOS boot as the
>>> second article describes, since your system is not having any
>>> trouble starting with stimon enabled.
>>>
>>> "Roger Fink" <fink@*****.net> wrote in message
>>> news:up$tQtBsFHA.4072@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>>>> When I use a scanner, Still Image Monitor (stimon) is inserted into
>>>> the
>>>> start-up group and stays there in subsequent sessions until I
>>>> delete
>>>> it in MSconfig. This is true even if the scanner has been
>>>> disconnected. I'd put up
>>>> with it except that it can and does crash Windows Explorer on
>>>> occasion, and
>>>> it also hides my "connected" icon in the symbol tray. I'm wondering
>>>> if this feature is really necessary and could be deleted
>>>> permanently. If it is
>>>> necessary, can I configure something in the registry so that it's
>>>> invoked
>>>> only on an as-needed basis? (Win98SE)
>>
>> I never use the buttons, but launching the scan from the Toolbox may
>> be in essence the same thing, not sure, as I noted above.

 

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Oh well, <g>. At least *you* have it all sussed out, regardless of "expert
opinion" and the documentation. The difference you noted about where the
STIMON entry is located (Run, not RunServices) is due to the application's
setup demands, and the difference is insignificant. Standard Windows
procedure would normally put it in RunServices, but the app designers chose
not to, whether for some good reason or not.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User


"Roger Fink" <fink@*****.net> wrote in message
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> Well I didn't try removing the registry entry, but as it turns out it's
> kind
> of
> incidental to the proceedings:
>
> 1. Reinstalled TWAIN driver and updated Picasa2; now both editing
> programs,
> Picasa & PSP, are able to acquire the image directly.
> 2. Unchecked STIMON in MSconfig and rebooted.
> 3. With STIMON unchecked, attempted to acquire a photo image using each
> editing program. Error box - no success.
> 4. Checked STIMON in MSconfig and rebooted. Can now successfully acquire
> the
> image with each editing program.
>
> This model scanner, Canon 4200F, maybe because it's newer than the
> information you cited, requires Still Image Monitor to be running for the
> Acquire function of the editing programs to work. That may defy logic,
> but,
> hey, we're talking about computers here.
>
> Also, FWIW, in my registry the StillImageMonitor entry is under the Run
> (enabled), Run- (disabled) keys,
> not Runservices, or the other "Runvariants".
>
>
> Gary S. Terhune wrote:
>> No, read the article again. STIMON is not required. It's purpose is to
>> launch that scanner interface when a button is pushed on the scanner
>> itself. Launching the interface manually does not require STIMON.
>>
>> Anyway, delete the Registry entry I told you about and test. If you
>> use File>Export in REGEDIT to Export the entry before you delete it,
>> it's easy to restore if you decide to keep it.
>>
>>
>> "Roger Fink" <fink@*****.net> wrote in message
>> news:uusbYNCsFHA.2876@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>>> glee wrote:
>>>> Description of Still Image Monitor (Stimon.exe)
>>>> http://support.microsoft.com?kbid=257815
>>>>
>>>> Error Message When You Start Computer: Stimon Caused an Invalid Page
>>>> Fault in Kernel32.dll:
>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=306393
>>>>
>>>> If you disable stimon (renaming the file and deleting the Registry
>>>> entry), your scanner's push-buttons won't work, if the scanner has
>>>> them. If that is not a concern, try disabling it as described in
>>>> the articles above. You need not use Safe Mode or a DOS boot as the
>>>> second article describes, since your system is not having any
>>>> trouble starting with stimon enabled.
>>>>
>>>> "Roger Fink" <fink@*****.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:up$tQtBsFHA.4072@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>>>>> When I use a scanner, Still Image Monitor (stimon) is inserted into
>>>>> the
>>>>> start-up group and stays there in subsequent sessions until I
>>>>> delete
>>>>> it in MSconfig. This is true even if the scanner has been
>>>>> disconnected. I'd put up
>>>>> with it except that it can and does crash Windows Explorer on
>>>>> occasion, and
>>>>> it also hides my "connected" icon in the symbol tray. I'm wondering
>>>>> if this feature is really necessary and could be deleted
>>>>> permanently. If it is
>>>>> necessary, can I configure something in the registry so that it's
>>>>> invoked
>>>>> only on an as-needed basis? (Win98SE)
>>>
>>> I never use the buttons, but launching the scan from the Toolbox may
>>> be in essence the same thing, not sure, as I noted above.
>
>
>

 

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From: "Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews@mvps.org>

| Oh well, <g>. At least *you* have it all sussed out, regardless of "expert
| opinion" and the documentation. The difference you noted about where the
| STIMON entry is located (Run, not RunServices) is due to the application's
| setup demands, and the difference is insignificant. Standard Windows
| procedure would normally put it in RunServices, but the app designers chose
| not to, whether for some good reason or not.
|
| --
| Gary S. Terhune
| MS-MVP Shell/User

It is located in RunServices in WinME.

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No you're still travelling in rarified air, you just got snookered by
Microsoft.
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=257815
As Wolfman Jack said in the Clearasil commercial:
"I been dere, I know".

Gary S. Terhune wrote:
> Oh well, <g>. At least *you* have it all sussed out, regardless of
> "expert opinion" and the documentation. The difference you noted
> about where the STIMON entry is located (Run, not RunServices) is due
> to the application's setup demands, and the difference is
> insignificant. Standard Windows procedure would normally put it in
> RunServices, but the app designers chose not to, whether for some
> good reason or not.
>
>
> "Roger Fink" <fink@*****.net> wrote in message
> news:OwHBTdNsFHA.2948@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>> Well I didn't try removing the registry entry, but as it turns out
>> it's kind
>> of
>> incidental to the proceedings:
>>
>> 1. Reinstalled TWAIN driver and updated Picasa2; now both editing
>> programs,
>> Picasa & PSP, are able to acquire the image directly.
>> 2. Unchecked STIMON in MSconfig and rebooted.
>> 3. With STIMON unchecked, attempted to acquire a photo image using
>> each editing program. Error box - no success.
>> 4. Checked STIMON in MSconfig and rebooted. Can now successfully
>> acquire the
>> image with each editing program.
>>
>> This model scanner, Canon 4200F, maybe because it's newer than the
>> information you cited, requires Still Image Monitor to be running
>> for the Acquire function of the editing programs to work. That may
>> defy logic, but,
>> hey, we're talking about computers here.
>>
>> Also, FWIW, in my registry the StillImageMonitor entry is under the
>> Run (enabled), Run- (disabled) keys,
>> not Runservices, or the other "Runvariants".
>>
>>
>> Gary S. Terhune wrote:
>>> No, read the article again. STIMON is not required. It's purpose is
>>> to launch that scanner interface when a button is pushed on the
>>> scanner itself. Launching the interface manually does not require
>>> STIMON.
>>>
>>> Anyway, delete the Registry entry I told you about and test. If you
>>> use File>Export in REGEDIT to Export the entry before you delete it,
>>> it's easy to restore if you decide to keep it.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Roger Fink" <fink@*****.net> wrote in message
>>> news:uusbYNCsFHA.2876@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>>>> glee wrote:
>>>>> Description of Still Image Monitor (Stimon.exe)
>>>>> http://support.microsoft.com?kbid=257815
>>>>>
>>>>> Error Message When You Start Computer: Stimon Caused an Invalid
>>>>> Page Fault in Kernel32.dll:
>>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=306393
>>>>>
>>>>> If you disable stimon (renaming the file and deleting the Registry
>>>>> entry), your scanner's push-buttons won't work, if the scanner has
>>>>> them. If that is not a concern, try disabling it as described in
>>>>> the articles above. You need not use Safe Mode or a DOS boot as
>>>>> the second article describes, since your system is not having any
>>>>> trouble starting with stimon enabled.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Roger Fink" <fink@*****.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:up$tQtBsFHA.4072@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> When I use a scanner, Still Image Monitor (stimon) is inserted
>>>>>> into the
>>>>>> start-up group and stays there in subsequent sessions until I
>>>>>> delete
>>>>>> it in MSconfig. This is true even if the scanner has been
>>>>>> disconnected. I'd put up
>>>>>> with it except that it can and does crash Windows Explorer on
>>>>>> occasion, and
>>>>>> it also hides my "connected" icon in the symbol tray. I'm
>>>>>> wondering if this feature is really necessary and could be
>>>>>> deleted permanently. If it is
>>>>>> necessary, can I configure something in the registry so that it's
>>>>>> invoked
>>>>>> only on an as-needed basis? (Win98SE)
>>>>
>>>> I never use the buttons, but launching the scan from the Toolbox
>>>> may be in essence the same thing, not sure, as I noted above.

 

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On Fri, 2 Sep 2005 23:04:12 -0400, "Roger Fink" <fink@*****.net> put
finger to keyboard and composed:

>I'll know soon enough, since I'm going to delete it as Gary described and
>see what happens. In addition to the program you suggest, this looks
>interesting as well.
>
>http://www.mlin.net/StartupMonitor.shtml
>
>I believe this works similarly to an email whitelist. What got me interested
>in it was RealPlayer, which I'd like to update sometime, but not at the
>expense of the monitoring feature that's loaded at every start-up. There is
>no hack for this that I've been able to find. Not that different from
>spyware - thug disguised in a three piece suit.

What about a general hack like this.

Let's say the offending autostarting program is called thug.exe. Add
the following commands (with appropriate filespecs) to the
autoexec.bat file:

move /y thug.exe \hack_directory
copy \hack_directory\do_nothing.exe thug.exe

In the Startup group add a batch file, say thug.bat, containing the
following line:

move /y \hack_directory\thug.exe \original_directory

The idea is that a do-nothing program is temporarily substituted for
the real program. This program launches and exits without doing
anything, but it keeps the registry happy. The original program is
then restored so that its parent application is none the wiser.

For this hack to work, I'm expecting the boot order to be as follows:

execute commands in autoexec.bat
process the registry including the autorun components
launch items in Programs -> Startup group

>glee wrote:
>> I do not use the software that you have but it's possible that
>> launching and using the "Toolbox" may as a side effect re-enable
>> loading stimon at startup, as seen in msconfig.
>>
>


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Franc Zabkar wrote:
> On Fri, 2 Sep 2005 23:04:12 -0400, "Roger Fink" <fink@*****.net> put
> finger to keyboard and composed:
>
>> I'll know soon enough, since I'm going to delete it as Gary
>> described and see what happens. In addition to the program you
>> suggest, this looks interesting as well.
>>
>> http://www.mlin.net/StartupMonitor.shtml
>>
>> I believe this works similarly to an email whitelist. What got me
>> interested in it was RealPlayer, which I'd like to update sometime,
>> but not at the expense of the monitoring feature that's loaded at
>> every start-up. There is no hack for this that I've been able to
>> find. Not that different from spyware - thug disguised in a three
>> piece suit.
>
> What about a general hack like this.
>
> Let's say the offending autostarting program is called thug.exe. Add
> the following commands (with appropriate filespecs) to the
> autoexec.bat file:
>
> move /y thug.exe \hack_directory
> copy \hack_directory\do_nothing.exe thug.exe
>
> In the Startup group add a batch file, say thug.bat, containing the
> following line:
>
> move /y \hack_directory\thug.exe \original_directory
>
> The idea is that a do-nothing program is temporarily substituted for
> the real program. This program launches and exits without doing
> anything, but it keeps the registry happy. The original program is
> then restored so that its parent application is none the wiser.
>
> For this hack to work, I'm expecting the boot order to be as follows:
>
> execute commands in autoexec.bat
> process the registry including the autorun components
> launch items in Programs -> Startup group
>
>
> -- Franc Zabkar

I'm sure it's pretty easy, but you're in territory I'm totally unfamiliar
with, so right now for me that would be like rappelling down the Empire
State Building. I'm going to give Glen's sti_fix program a try, or the Mike
Lin program I referred to, or both, and see where it leads.

 

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On Sat, 3 Sep 2005 20:17:25 -0400, "Roger Fink" <fink@*****.net> put
finger to keyboard and composed:

>Franc Zabkar wrote:

>> The idea is that a do-nothing program is temporarily substituted for
>> the real program. This program launches and exits without doing
>> anything, but it keeps the registry happy. The original program is
>> then restored so that its parent application is none the wiser.

>I'm sure it's pretty easy, but you're in territory I'm totally unfamiliar
>with, so right now for me that would be like rappelling down the Empire
>State Building. I'm going to give Glen's sti_fix program a try, or the Mike
>Lin program I referred to, or both, and see where it leads.

Actually, it *is* easy if you know just a little DOS. The benefits are
that no third party apps are required, and nothing is running in the
background to consume resources.

Anyway I tried my hack with Real Player. Unfortunately autoexec.bat
executes before Windows becomes aware of long file names, so this
didn't work. Instead I had to place the MOVE and COPY commands in
C:\windows\winstart.bat which *is* LFN aware. Everything then worked
as expected.

BTW, if anyone needs a do-nothing file, you can create one from a DOS
window as follows:

debug
-a
12EB:0100 int 20
12EB:0102

-r cx
CX 0000
:2
-n \windows\temp\do_nix.com
-w
Writing 00002 bytes
-q


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Franc Zabkar wrote:
> On Sat, 3 Sep 2005 20:17:25 -0400, "Roger Fink" <fink@*****.net> put
> finger to keyboard and composed:
>
>> Franc Zabkar wrote:
>
>>> The idea is that a do-nothing program is temporarily substituted for
>>> the real program. This program launches and exits without doing
>>> anything, but it keeps the registry happy. The original program is
>>> then restored so that its parent application is none the wiser.
>
>> I'm sure it's pretty easy, but you're in territory I'm totally
>> unfamiliar with, so right now for me that would be like rappelling
>> down the Empire State Building. I'm going to give Glen's sti_fix
>> program a try, or the Mike Lin program I referred to, or both, and
>> see where it leads.
>
> Actually, it *is* easy if you know just a little DOS. The benefits are
> that no third party apps are required, and nothing is running in the
> background to consume resources.
>
> Anyway I tried my hack with Real Player. Unfortunately autoexec.bat
> executes before Windows becomes aware of long file names, so this
> didn't work. Instead I had to place the MOVE and COPY commands in
> C:\windows\winstart.bat which *is* LFN aware. Everything then worked
> as expected.
>
> BTW, if anyone needs a do-nothing file, you can create one from a DOS
> window as follows:
>
> debug
> -a
> 12EB:0100 int 20
> 12EB:0102
>
> -r cx
> CX 0000
>> 2
> -n \windows\temp\do_nix.com
> -w
> Writing 00002 bytes
> -q
>
>
> -- Franc Zabkar
>
> Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

FWIW, today I figured out the best way to deal with the Real Player activity
monitor (TkBell.exe) inserted into the startup folder is with Teatime, a
selectable feature of Spybot. It has the advantage over Lin's Startup
Monitor in that it asks you if you want to accept or deny the change AND if
you want to make it permanent. After that it doesn't bother you and neither
does TkBell.exe. So for that particular headache, it's ideal.