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Archived from groups: alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus (More info?)

I just upgraded and bought a P4C800-E Deluxe board, a Northwood 3.0 GHz CPU
and 2 512 MB of OCZ PC3200 DDR400 ram and a Seagate 160 GB SATA drive. I had
the worst time ever bringing this machine up. I get a warning that the CPU
failed the check test. I upgraded the bios and it is better but when it is
cold I got this error this morning I rebooted it twice and it was fine. Once
it is up it is solid as a rock.

Has anyone seen this before? Is there a fix?

Thanks
 
Archived from groups: alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus (More info?)

On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 11:42:01 -0500, "John McCoy"
<johnm160@hotmail.com> wrote:

>I just upgraded and bought a P4C800-E Deluxe board, a Northwood 3.0 GHz CPU
>and 2 512 MB of OCZ PC3200 DDR400 ram and a Seagate 160 GB SATA drive. I had
>the worst time ever bringing this machine up. I get a warning that the CPU
>failed the check test. I upgraded the bios and it is better but when it is
>cold I got this error this morning I rebooted it twice and it was fine. Once
>it is up it is solid as a rock.
>
>Has anyone seen this before? Is there a fix?
>
>Thanks
>
Hi,

Sorry you are having trouble with the system. I have exactly the same
selection of CPU (3.0g Northwood), motherboard, and OCZ 3200 RAM, the
only difference with my setup is that I chose a different SATA drive
(WD Raptor 74g). My first thought would be that the CPU fail report
may be valid. The CPU may have an issue when cold. It could be an
internal fault with any number of its components at startup. You
might contact your vendor and discuss an exchange. (Hopefully they
will send you a nice new Northwood.)

My second thought would be to try a different power supply. Is it
possible that it is marginal on the vcore rail? I have seen posts
regarding various power supplies and the P4C800-E Deluxe where even
though the total power rating of the supply is impressive, there was
an incompatibility. From a post last June in this group:

"There was a specific incompatibility between some ANTEC PSU's and a
P4B800E delux.The issue is supposed to be related to ASUS not
recognizing the voltage +5 pin4, on the ATX connector. This is only
for rev 1.02 boards, and specific to the boards with an ending serial
like "-A02" along the side close to IDE/floppy connectors."

I am not sure if the above scenario pertains to your board, but if you
have another supply sitting around (who doesn't?) it might be worth
trying a swap to see if the issue goes away. I ended up with an
Enermax EG465AX-VE(W) because I liked the current distribution on the
various rails, especially the 35amp rating of the 3.3vdc bus.

I hope the resolution proves to be an easy one.

Regards,

Ender
____
[____]
(OIIIIIIO)
[] []
 
Archived from groups: alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus (More info?)

Thanks, I have an Enermax 465 that worked fine with my P4TE but I wouldn't
rule that out. I have 2 fans not working which does point to the power
supply, the power supply is about 2 years old.

I need to get one for my wife, any suggestions on a good one? Is Antec any
good, that last post led me to believe that wasn't a good option, where is a
good place to order a PS from?

I would like to try the power supply first before betting on the CPU since
this is a retail chip and the odds of it being bad are slim.

Thanks
John




"Ender"


<enderwiggin3rd@SBhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:0kchq0dcfov73t6mn2578e7hq8eqc2rdfi@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 11:42:01 -0500, "John McCoy"
> <johnm160@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>I just upgraded and bought a P4C800-E Deluxe board, a Northwood 3.0 GHz
>>CPU
>>and 2 512 MB of OCZ PC3200 DDR400 ram and a Seagate 160 GB SATA drive. I
>>had
>>the worst time ever bringing this machine up. I get a warning that the CPU
>>failed the check test. I upgraded the bios and it is better but when it is
>>cold I got this error this morning I rebooted it twice and it was fine.
>>Once
>>it is up it is solid as a rock.
>>
>>Has anyone seen this before? Is there a fix?
>>
>>Thanks
>>
> Hi,
>
> Sorry you are having trouble with the system. I have exactly the same
> selection of CPU (3.0g Northwood), motherboard, and OCZ 3200 RAM, the
> only difference with my setup is that I chose a different SATA drive
> (WD Raptor 74g). My first thought would be that the CPU fail report
> may be valid. The CPU may have an issue when cold. It could be an
> internal fault with any number of its components at startup. You
> might contact your vendor and discuss an exchange. (Hopefully they
> will send you a nice new Northwood.)
>
> My second thought would be to try a different power supply. Is it
> possible that it is marginal on the vcore rail? I have seen posts
> regarding various power supplies and the P4C800-E Deluxe where even
> though the total power rating of the supply is impressive, there was
> an incompatibility. From a post last June in this group:
>
> "There was a specific incompatibility between some ANTEC PSU's and a
> P4B800E delux.The issue is supposed to be related to ASUS not
> recognizing the voltage +5 pin4, on the ATX connector. This is only
> for rev 1.02 boards, and specific to the boards with an ending serial
> like "-A02" along the side close to IDE/floppy connectors."
>
> I am not sure if the above scenario pertains to your board, but if you
> have another supply sitting around (who doesn't?) it might be worth
> trying a swap to see if the issue goes away. I ended up with an
> Enermax EG465AX-VE(W) because I liked the current distribution on the
> various rails, especially the 35amp rating of the 3.3vdc bus.
>
> I hope the resolution proves to be an easy one.
>
> Regards,
>
> Ender
> ____
> [____]
> (OIIIIIIO)
> [] []
 
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"John McCoy" <johnm160@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:y7OdnR_IRdXhnDTcRVn-uA@comcast.com...
> Thanks, I have an Enermax 465 that worked fine with my P4TE but I wouldn't
> rule that out. I have 2 fans not working which does point to the power
> supply, the power supply is about 2 years old.
>
> I need to get one for my wife, any suggestions on a good one? Is Antec any
> good, that last post led me to believe that wasn't a good option, where is
> a good place to order a PS from?
>
> I would like to try the power supply first before betting on the CPU since
> this is a retail chip and the odds of it being bad are slim.
>
> Thanks
> John
>
I just brought to life a P4C800-E Deluxe with a 3.0 Prescott using an Antec
SL400. No problems.

Rick
 
Archived from groups: alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus (More info?)

I plan to pick up a new power supply and try it. That is good to know about
the Antec.

Thanks


"Rick" <rlmacdonnospam@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:Y1aqd.155419$HA.37053@attbi_s01...
>
> "John McCoy" <johnm160@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:y7OdnR_IRdXhnDTcRVn-uA@comcast.com...
>> Thanks, I have an Enermax 465 that worked fine with my P4TE but I
>> wouldn't rule that out. I have 2 fans not working which does point to the
>> power supply, the power supply is about 2 years old.
>>
>> I need to get one for my wife, any suggestions on a good one? Is Antec
>> any good, that last post led me to believe that wasn't a good option,
>> where is a good place to order a PS from?
>>
>> I would like to try the power supply first before betting on the CPU
>> since this is a retail chip and the odds of it being bad are slim.
>>
>> Thanks
>> John
>>
> I just brought to life a P4C800-E Deluxe with a 3.0 Prescott using an
> Antec SL400. No problems.
>
> Rick
>
 
Archived from groups: alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus (More info?)

I have a very bad experience with Enermax:

Last year my son offered a front panel for my birthday. The power supply was
inverted. Fortunately, only my CD burmer was connected to it. I fried it,
applying 15 V to the 5V input. It's a __ manufacturer error __, not a
failure.

My 465 W PSU failed 9 months after purchase, didn't start. It was under
guatanty and I tried to have another brand because of my lack of confidence
in Enermax and the non-availability.

I got another one loaned by the dealer and mine was finally exchanged 3.5
months later. I had to return at the dealer (20 km) because the new one
wasn't compatible with the MoBo (extended connector). They picked an adapter
from another model and gave it to me.

May be I got two lemons. Dunno ! but I won't buy Enermax again.



"John McCoy" <johnm160@hotmail.com> a écrit dans le message news:
y7OdnR_IRdXhnDTcRVn-uA@comcast.com...
> Thanks, I have an Enermax 465 that worked fine with my P4TE but I wouldn't
> rule that out. I have 2 fans not working which does point to the power
> supply, the power supply is about 2 years old.
>
> I need to get one for my wife, any suggestions on a good one? Is Antec any
> good, that last post led me to believe that wasn't a good option, where is
a
> good place to order a PS from?
>
> I would like to try the power supply first before betting on the CPU since
> this is a retail chip and the odds of it being bad are slim.
>
> Thanks
> John
>
>
>
>
> "Ender"
>
>
> <enderwiggin3rd@SBhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:0kchq0dcfov73t6mn2578e7hq8eqc2rdfi@4ax.com...
> > On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 11:42:01 -0500, "John McCoy"
> > <johnm160@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >>I just upgraded and bought a P4C800-E Deluxe board, a Northwood 3.0 GHz
> >>CPU
> >>and 2 512 MB of OCZ PC3200 DDR400 ram and a Seagate 160 GB SATA drive. I
> >>had
> >>the worst time ever bringing this machine up. I get a warning that the
CPU
> >>failed the check test. I upgraded the bios and it is better but when it
is
> >>cold I got this error this morning I rebooted it twice and it was fine.
> >>Once
> >>it is up it is solid as a rock.
> >>
> >>Has anyone seen this before? Is there a fix?
> >>
> >>Thanks
> >>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Sorry you are having trouble with the system. I have exactly the same
> > selection of CPU (3.0g Northwood), motherboard, and OCZ 3200 RAM, the
> > only difference with my setup is that I chose a different SATA drive
> > (WD Raptor 74g). My first thought would be that the CPU fail report
> > may be valid. The CPU may have an issue when cold. It could be an
> > internal fault with any number of its components at startup. You
> > might contact your vendor and discuss an exchange. (Hopefully they
> > will send you a nice new Northwood.)
> >
> > My second thought would be to try a different power supply. Is it
> > possible that it is marginal on the vcore rail? I have seen posts
> > regarding various power supplies and the P4C800-E Deluxe where even
> > though the total power rating of the supply is impressive, there was
> > an incompatibility. From a post last June in this group:
> >
> > "There was a specific incompatibility between some ANTEC PSU's and a
> > P4B800E delux.The issue is supposed to be related to ASUS not
> > recognizing the voltage +5 pin4, on the ATX connector. This is only
> > for rev 1.02 boards, and specific to the boards with an ending serial
> > like "-A02" along the side close to IDE/floppy connectors."
> >
> > I am not sure if the above scenario pertains to your board, but if you
> > have another supply sitting around (who doesn't?) it might be worth
> > trying a swap to see if the issue goes away. I ended up with an
> > Enermax EG465AX-VE(W) because I liked the current distribution on the
> > various rails, especially the 35amp rating of the 3.3vdc bus.
> >
> > I hope the resolution proves to be an easy one.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Ender
> > ____
> > [____]
> > (OIIIIIIO)
> > [] []
>
>
 
Archived from groups: alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus (More info?)

Thanks, I popped in my old Supermicro 300W and the system powered up fine
this morning. MY only concern is that this power supply is not powerful
enough, I can get an Antec locally today which I may do.

Thanks


"Aldo Larrabiata" <duschmoll@racer.com> wrote in message
news:41a9bd28$0$30409$8fcfb975@news.wanadoo.fr...
>I have a very bad experience with Enermax:
>
> Last year my son offered a front panel for my birthday. The power supply
> was
> inverted. Fortunately, only my CD burmer was connected to it. I fried it,
> applying 15 V to the 5V input. It's a __ manufacturer error __, not a
> failure.
>
> My 465 W PSU failed 9 months after purchase, didn't start. It was under
> guatanty and I tried to have another brand because of my lack of
> confidence
> in Enermax and the non-availability.
>
> I got another one loaned by the dealer and mine was finally exchanged 3.5
> months later. I had to return at the dealer (20 km) because the new one
> wasn't compatible with the MoBo (extended connector). They picked an
> adapter
> from another model and gave it to me.
>
> May be I got two lemons. Dunno ! but I won't buy Enermax again.
>
>
>
> "John McCoy" <johnm160@hotmail.com> a écrit dans le message news:
> y7OdnR_IRdXhnDTcRVn-uA@comcast.com...
>> Thanks, I have an Enermax 465 that worked fine with my P4TE but I
>> wouldn't
>> rule that out. I have 2 fans not working which does point to the power
>> supply, the power supply is about 2 years old.
>>
>> I need to get one for my wife, any suggestions on a good one? Is Antec
>> any
>> good, that last post led me to believe that wasn't a good option, where
>> is
> a
>> good place to order a PS from?
>>
>> I would like to try the power supply first before betting on the CPU
>> since
>> this is a retail chip and the odds of it being bad are slim.
>>
>> Thanks
>> John
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Ender"
>>
>>
>> <enderwiggin3rd@SBhotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:0kchq0dcfov73t6mn2578e7hq8eqc2rdfi@4ax.com...
>> > On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 11:42:01 -0500, "John McCoy"
>> > <johnm160@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >>I just upgraded and bought a P4C800-E Deluxe board, a Northwood 3.0 GHz
>> >>CPU
>> >>and 2 512 MB of OCZ PC3200 DDR400 ram and a Seagate 160 GB SATA drive.
>> >>I
>> >>had
>> >>the worst time ever bringing this machine up. I get a warning that the
> CPU
>> >>failed the check test. I upgraded the bios and it is better but when it
> is
>> >>cold I got this error this morning I rebooted it twice and it was fine.
>> >>Once
>> >>it is up it is solid as a rock.
>> >>
>> >>Has anyone seen this before? Is there a fix?
>> >>
>> >>Thanks
>> >>
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > Sorry you are having trouble with the system. I have exactly the same
>> > selection of CPU (3.0g Northwood), motherboard, and OCZ 3200 RAM, the
>> > only difference with my setup is that I chose a different SATA drive
>> > (WD Raptor 74g). My first thought would be that the CPU fail report
>> > may be valid. The CPU may have an issue when cold. It could be an
>> > internal fault with any number of its components at startup. You
>> > might contact your vendor and discuss an exchange. (Hopefully they
>> > will send you a nice new Northwood.)
>> >
>> > My second thought would be to try a different power supply. Is it
>> > possible that it is marginal on the vcore rail? I have seen posts
>> > regarding various power supplies and the P4C800-E Deluxe where even
>> > though the total power rating of the supply is impressive, there was
>> > an incompatibility. From a post last June in this group:
>> >
>> > "There was a specific incompatibility between some ANTEC PSU's and a
>> > P4B800E delux.The issue is supposed to be related to ASUS not
>> > recognizing the voltage +5 pin4, on the ATX connector. This is only
>> > for rev 1.02 boards, and specific to the boards with an ending serial
>> > like "-A02" along the side close to IDE/floppy connectors."
>> >
>> > I am not sure if the above scenario pertains to your board, but if you
>> > have another supply sitting around (who doesn't?) it might be worth
>> > trying a swap to see if the issue goes away. I ended up with an
>> > Enermax EG465AX-VE(W) because I liked the current distribution on the
>> > various rails, especially the 35amp rating of the 3.3vdc bus.
>> >
>> > I hope the resolution proves to be an easy one.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > Ender
>> > ____
>> > [____]
>> > (OIIIIIIO)
>> > [] []
>>
>>
>
>
 
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O put in a 300W PS and and it booted cold just fine. I'll order another more
powerful PS and see how it is.

Thanks
John




"Ender" <enderwiggin3rd@SBhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:0kchq0dcfov73t6mn2578e7hq8eqc2rdfi@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 11:42:01 -0500, "John McCoy"
> <johnm160@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>I just upgraded and bought a P4C800-E Deluxe board, a Northwood 3.0 GHz
>>CPU
>>and 2 512 MB of OCZ PC3200 DDR400 ram and a Seagate 160 GB SATA drive. I
>>had
>>the worst time ever bringing this machine up. I get a warning that the CPU
>>failed the check test. I upgraded the bios and it is better but when it is
>>cold I got this error this morning I rebooted it twice and it was fine.
>>Once
>>it is up it is solid as a rock.
>>
>>Has anyone seen this before? Is there a fix?
>>
>>Thanks
>>
> Hi,
>
> Sorry you are having trouble with the system. I have exactly the same
> selection of CPU (3.0g Northwood), motherboard, and OCZ 3200 RAM, the
> only difference with my setup is that I chose a different SATA drive
> (WD Raptor 74g). My first thought would be that the CPU fail report
> may be valid. The CPU may have an issue when cold. It could be an
> internal fault with any number of its components at startup. You
> might contact your vendor and discuss an exchange. (Hopefully they
> will send you a nice new Northwood.)
>
> My second thought would be to try a different power supply. Is it
> possible that it is marginal on the vcore rail? I have seen posts
> regarding various power supplies and the P4C800-E Deluxe where even
> though the total power rating of the supply is impressive, there was
> an incompatibility. From a post last June in this group:
>
> "There was a specific incompatibility between some ANTEC PSU's and a
> P4B800E delux.The issue is supposed to be related to ASUS not
> recognizing the voltage +5 pin4, on the ATX connector. This is only
> for rev 1.02 boards, and specific to the boards with an ending serial
> like "-A02" along the side close to IDE/floppy connectors."
>
> I am not sure if the above scenario pertains to your board, but if you
> have another supply sitting around (who doesn't?) it might be worth
> trying a swap to see if the issue goes away. I ended up with an
> Enermax EG465AX-VE(W) because I liked the current distribution on the
> various rails, especially the 35amp rating of the 3.3vdc bus.
>
> I hope the resolution proves to be an easy one.
>
> Regards,
>
> Ender
> ____
> [____]
> (OIIIIIIO)
> [] []
 
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Take care, the first day my PSU failed, I put an old 300W in my system.
Close to be overloaded. Ripple was quite high and the +12V was exceeding a
bit the rating (12.68 V inst.of 12.6 max).
Harmful for the electronics.

Rush on the Antec !


"John McCoy" <johnm160@hotmail.com> a écrit dans le message news:
xZCdnUGxGcLmazTcRVn-iA@comcast.com...
> Thanks, I popped in my old Supermicro 300W and the system powered up fine
> this morning. MY only concern is that this power supply is not powerful
> enough, I can get an Antec locally today which I may do.
>
> Thanks
>
>
> "Aldo Larrabiata" <duschmoll@racer.com> wrote in message
> news:41a9bd28$0$30409$8fcfb975@news.wanadoo.fr...
> >I have a very bad experience with Enermax:
> >
> > Last year my son offered a front panel for my birthday. The power supply
> > was
> > inverted. Fortunately, only my CD burmer was connected to it. I fried
it,
> > applying 15 V to the 5V input. It's a __ manufacturer error __, not a
> > failure.
> >
> > My 465 W PSU failed 9 months after purchase, didn't start. It was under
> > guatanty and I tried to have another brand because of my lack of
> > confidence
> > in Enermax and the non-availability.
> >
> > I got another one loaned by the dealer and mine was finally exchanged
3.5
> > months later. I had to return at the dealer (20 km) because the new one
> > wasn't compatible with the MoBo (extended connector). They picked an
> > adapter
> > from another model and gave it to me.
> >
> > May be I got two lemons. Dunno ! but I won't buy Enermax again.
> >
> >
> >
> > "John McCoy" <johnm160@hotmail.com> a écrit dans le message news:
> > y7OdnR_IRdXhnDTcRVn-uA@comcast.com...
> >> Thanks, I have an Enermax 465 that worked fine with my P4TE but I
> >> wouldn't
> >> rule that out. I have 2 fans not working which does point to the power
> >> supply, the power supply is about 2 years old.
> >>
> >> I need to get one for my wife, any suggestions on a good one? Is Antec
> >> any
> >> good, that last post led me to believe that wasn't a good option, where
> >> is
> > a
> >> good place to order a PS from?
> >>
> >> I would like to try the power supply first before betting on the CPU
> >> since
> >> this is a retail chip and the odds of it being bad are slim.
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >> John
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "Ender"
> >>
> >>
> >> <enderwiggin3rd@SBhotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:0kchq0dcfov73t6mn2578e7hq8eqc2rdfi@4ax.com...
> >> > On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 11:42:01 -0500, "John McCoy"
> >> > <johnm160@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>I just upgraded and bought a P4C800-E Deluxe board, a Northwood 3.0
GHz
> >> >>CPU
> >> >>and 2 512 MB of OCZ PC3200 DDR400 ram and a Seagate 160 GB SATA
drive.
> >> >>I
> >> >>had
> >> >>the worst time ever bringing this machine up. I get a warning that
the
> > CPU
> >> >>failed the check test. I upgraded the bios and it is better but when
it
> > is
> >> >>cold I got this error this morning I rebooted it twice and it was
fine.
> >> >>Once
> >> >>it is up it is solid as a rock.
> >> >>
> >> >>Has anyone seen this before? Is there a fix?
> >> >>
> >> >>Thanks
> >> >>
> >> > Hi,
> >> >
> >> > Sorry you are having trouble with the system. I have exactly the
same
> >> > selection of CPU (3.0g Northwood), motherboard, and OCZ 3200 RAM, the
> >> > only difference with my setup is that I chose a different SATA drive
> >> > (WD Raptor 74g). My first thought would be that the CPU fail report
> >> > may be valid. The CPU may have an issue when cold. It could be an
> >> > internal fault with any number of its components at startup. You
> >> > might contact your vendor and discuss an exchange. (Hopefully they
> >> > will send you a nice new Northwood.)
> >> >
> >> > My second thought would be to try a different power supply. Is it
> >> > possible that it is marginal on the vcore rail? I have seen posts
> >> > regarding various power supplies and the P4C800-E Deluxe where even
> >> > though the total power rating of the supply is impressive, there was
> >> > an incompatibility. From a post last June in this group:
> >> >
> >> > "There was a specific incompatibility between some ANTEC PSU's and a
> >> > P4B800E delux.The issue is supposed to be related to ASUS not
> >> > recognizing the voltage +5 pin4, on the ATX connector. This is only
> >> > for rev 1.02 boards, and specific to the boards with an ending serial
> >> > like "-A02" along the side close to IDE/floppy connectors."
> >> >
> >> > I am not sure if the above scenario pertains to your board, but if
you
> >> > have another supply sitting around (who doesn't?) it might be worth
> >> > trying a swap to see if the issue goes away. I ended up with an
> >> > Enermax EG465AX-VE(W) because I liked the current distribution on the
> >> > various rails, especially the 35amp rating of the 3.3vdc bus.
> >> >
> >> > I hope the resolution proves to be an easy one.
> >> >
> >> > Regards,
> >> >
> >> > Ender
> >> > ____
> >> > [____]
> >> > (OIIIIIIO)
> >> > [] []
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
 
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Thanks, I am getting the following readings.

+12 11.49 +5 5.11 Core 1.60
no -12 no -5 and Aux is 3.20V

Thanks

"Aldo Larrabiata" <duschmoll@racer.com> wrote in message
news:41aa1d45$0$17383$8fcfb975@news.wanadoo.fr...
> Take care, the first day my PSU failed, I put an old 300W in my system.
> Close to be overloaded. Ripple was quite high and the +12V was exceeding a
> bit the rating (12.68 V inst.of 12.6 max).
> Harmful for the electronics.
>
> Rush on the Antec !
>
>
> "John McCoy" <johnm160@hotmail.com> a écrit dans le message news:
> xZCdnUGxGcLmazTcRVn-iA@comcast.com...
>> Thanks, I popped in my old Supermicro 300W and the system powered up fine
>> this morning. MY only concern is that this power supply is not powerful
>> enough, I can get an Antec locally today which I may do.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>> "Aldo Larrabiata" <duschmoll@racer.com> wrote in message
>> news:41a9bd28$0$30409$8fcfb975@news.wanadoo.fr...
>> >I have a very bad experience with Enermax:
>> >
>> > Last year my son offered a front panel for my birthday. The power
>> > supply
>> > was
>> > inverted. Fortunately, only my CD burmer was connected to it. I fried
> it,
>> > applying 15 V to the 5V input. It's a __ manufacturer error __, not a
>> > failure.
>> >
>> > My 465 W PSU failed 9 months after purchase, didn't start. It was under
>> > guatanty and I tried to have another brand because of my lack of
>> > confidence
>> > in Enermax and the non-availability.
>> >
>> > I got another one loaned by the dealer and mine was finally exchanged
> 3.5
>> > months later. I had to return at the dealer (20 km) because the new one
>> > wasn't compatible with the MoBo (extended connector). They picked an
>> > adapter
>> > from another model and gave it to me.
>> >
>> > May be I got two lemons. Dunno ! but I won't buy Enermax again.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "John McCoy" <johnm160@hotmail.com> a écrit dans le message news:
>> > y7OdnR_IRdXhnDTcRVn-uA@comcast.com...
>> >> Thanks, I have an Enermax 465 that worked fine with my P4TE but I
>> >> wouldn't
>> >> rule that out. I have 2 fans not working which does point to the power
>> >> supply, the power supply is about 2 years old.
>> >>
>> >> I need to get one for my wife, any suggestions on a good one? Is Antec
>> >> any
>> >> good, that last post led me to believe that wasn't a good option,
>> >> where
>> >> is
>> > a
>> >> good place to order a PS from?
>> >>
>> >> I would like to try the power supply first before betting on the CPU
>> >> since
>> >> this is a retail chip and the odds of it being bad are slim.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks
>> >> John
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Ender"
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> <enderwiggin3rd@SBhotmail.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:0kchq0dcfov73t6mn2578e7hq8eqc2rdfi@4ax.com...
>> >> > On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 11:42:01 -0500, "John McCoy"
>> >> > <johnm160@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >>I just upgraded and bought a P4C800-E Deluxe board, a Northwood 3.0
> GHz
>> >> >>CPU
>> >> >>and 2 512 MB of OCZ PC3200 DDR400 ram and a Seagate 160 GB SATA
> drive.
>> >> >>I
>> >> >>had
>> >> >>the worst time ever bringing this machine up. I get a warning that
> the
>> > CPU
>> >> >>failed the check test. I upgraded the bios and it is better but when
> it
>> > is
>> >> >>cold I got this error this morning I rebooted it twice and it was
> fine.
>> >> >>Once
>> >> >>it is up it is solid as a rock.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>Has anyone seen this before? Is there a fix?
>> >> >>
>> >> >>Thanks
>> >> >>
>> >> > Hi,
>> >> >
>> >> > Sorry you are having trouble with the system. I have exactly the
> same
>> >> > selection of CPU (3.0g Northwood), motherboard, and OCZ 3200 RAM,
>> >> > the
>> >> > only difference with my setup is that I chose a different SATA drive
>> >> > (WD Raptor 74g). My first thought would be that the CPU fail report
>> >> > may be valid. The CPU may have an issue when cold. It could be an
>> >> > internal fault with any number of its components at startup. You
>> >> > might contact your vendor and discuss an exchange. (Hopefully they
>> >> > will send you a nice new Northwood.)
>> >> >
>> >> > My second thought would be to try a different power supply. Is it
>> >> > possible that it is marginal on the vcore rail? I have seen posts
>> >> > regarding various power supplies and the P4C800-E Deluxe where even
>> >> > though the total power rating of the supply is impressive, there was
>> >> > an incompatibility. From a post last June in this group:
>> >> >
>> >> > "There was a specific incompatibility between some ANTEC PSU's and a
>> >> > P4B800E delux.The issue is supposed to be related to ASUS not
>> >> > recognizing the voltage +5 pin4, on the ATX connector. This is only
>> >> > for rev 1.02 boards, and specific to the boards with an ending
>> >> > serial
>> >> > like "-A02" along the side close to IDE/floppy connectors."
>> >> >
>> >> > I am not sure if the above scenario pertains to your board, but if
> you
>> >> > have another supply sitting around (who doesn't?) it might be worth
>> >> > trying a swap to see if the issue goes away. I ended up with an
>> >> > Enermax EG465AX-VE(W) because I liked the current distribution on
>> >> > the
>> >> > various rails, especially the 35amp rating of the 3.3vdc bus.
>> >> >
>> >> > I hope the resolution proves to be an easy one.
>> >> >
>> >> > Regards,
>> >> >
>> >> > Ender
>> >> > ____
>> >> > [____]
>> >> > (OIIIIIIO)
>> >> > [] []
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
 
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Correct values.

As a reminder:
Supply nominal trip-off thresholds
voltage ratings min/nom/max (indicative)
+12V +11.4 to +12.6 13.4 / 15 / 15.6
+5V +4.75 to +5.25 5.74 / 6.3 / 7.0
+3.3V +3.14 to +3.47 3.76 / 4.2 / 4.3
-12V -10.8 to -13.20
+5VSB +4.75 to +5.25


"John McCoy" <johnm160@hotmail.com> a écrit dans le message news:
NuGdnW9Gf56-5TfcRVn-sQ@comcast.com...
> Thanks, I am getting the following readings.
>
> +12 11.49 +5 5.11 Core 1.60
> no -12 no -5 and Aux is 3.20V
>
> Thanks
>
> "Aldo Larrabiata" <duschmoll@racer.com> wrote in message
> news:41aa1d45$0$17383$8fcfb975@news.wanadoo.fr...
> > Take care, the first day my PSU failed, I put an old 300W in my system.
> > Close to be overloaded. Ripple was quite high and the +12V was exceeding
a
> > bit the rating (12.68 V inst.of 12.6 max).
> > Harmful for the electronics.
> >
> > Rush on the Antec !
> >
> >
> > "John McCoy" <johnm160@hotmail.com> a écrit dans le message news:
> > xZCdnUGxGcLmazTcRVn-iA@comcast.com...
> >> Thanks, I popped in my old Supermicro 300W and the system powered up
fine
> >> this morning. MY only concern is that this power supply is not powerful
> >> enough, I can get an Antec locally today which I may do.
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >>
> >> "Aldo Larrabiata" <duschmoll@racer.com> wrote in message
> >> news:41a9bd28$0$30409$8fcfb975@news.wanadoo.fr...
> >> >I have a very bad experience with Enermax:
> >> >
> >> > Last year my son offered a front panel for my birthday. The power
> >> > supply
> >> > was
> >> > inverted. Fortunately, only my CD burmer was connected to it. I fried
> > it,
> >> > applying 15 V to the 5V input. It's a __ manufacturer error __, not a
> >> > failure.
> >> >
> >> > My 465 W PSU failed 9 months after purchase, didn't start. It was
under
> >> > guatanty and I tried to have another brand because of my lack of
> >> > confidence
> >> > in Enermax and the non-availability.
> >> >
> >> > I got another one loaned by the dealer and mine was finally exchanged
> > 3.5
> >> > months later. I had to return at the dealer (20 km) because the new
one
> >> > wasn't compatible with the MoBo (extended connector). They picked an
> >> > adapter
> >> > from another model and gave it to me.
> >> >
> >> > May be I got two lemons. Dunno ! but I won't buy Enermax again.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "John McCoy" <johnm160@hotmail.com> a écrit dans le message news:
> >> > y7OdnR_IRdXhnDTcRVn-uA@comcast.com...
> >> >> Thanks, I have an Enermax 465 that worked fine with my P4TE but I
> >> >> wouldn't
> >> >> rule that out. I have 2 fans not working which does point to the
power
> >> >> supply, the power supply is about 2 years old.
> >> >>
> >> >> I need to get one for my wife, any suggestions on a good one? Is
Antec
> >> >> any
> >> >> good, that last post led me to believe that wasn't a good option,
> >> >> where
> >> >> is
> >> > a
> >> >> good place to order a PS from?
> >> >>
> >> >> I would like to try the power supply first before betting on the CPU
> >> >> since
> >> >> this is a retail chip and the odds of it being bad are slim.
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks
> >> >> John
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "Ender"
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> <enderwiggin3rd@SBhotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:0kchq0dcfov73t6mn2578e7hq8eqc2rdfi@4ax.com...
> >> >> > On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 11:42:01 -0500, "John McCoy"
> >> >> > <johnm160@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >>I just upgraded and bought a P4C800-E Deluxe board, a Northwood
3.0
> > GHz
> >> >> >>CPU
> >> >> >>and 2 512 MB of OCZ PC3200 DDR400 ram and a Seagate 160 GB SATA
> > drive.
> >> >> >>I
> >> >> >>had
> >> >> >>the worst time ever bringing this machine up. I get a warning that
> > the
> >> > CPU
> >> >> >>failed the check test. I upgraded the bios and it is better but
when
> > it
> >> > is
> >> >> >>cold I got this error this morning I rebooted it twice and it was
> > fine.
> >> >> >>Once
> >> >> >>it is up it is solid as a rock.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>Has anyone seen this before? Is there a fix?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>Thanks
> >> >> >>
> >> >> > Hi,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Sorry you are having trouble with the system. I have exactly the
> > same
> >> >> > selection of CPU (3.0g Northwood), motherboard, and OCZ 3200 RAM,
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > only difference with my setup is that I chose a different SATA
drive
> >> >> > (WD Raptor 74g). My first thought would be that the CPU fail
report
> >> >> > may be valid. The CPU may have an issue when cold. It could be an
> >> >> > internal fault with any number of its components at startup. You
> >> >> > might contact your vendor and discuss an exchange. (Hopefully
they
> >> >> > will send you a nice new Northwood.)
> >> >> >
> >> >> > My second thought would be to try a different power supply. Is it
> >> >> > possible that it is marginal on the vcore rail? I have seen posts
> >> >> > regarding various power supplies and the P4C800-E Deluxe where
even
> >> >> > though the total power rating of the supply is impressive, there
was
> >> >> > an incompatibility. From a post last June in this group:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "There was a specific incompatibility between some ANTEC PSU's and
a
> >> >> > P4B800E delux.The issue is supposed to be related to ASUS not
> >> >> > recognizing the voltage +5 pin4, on the ATX connector. This is
only
> >> >> > for rev 1.02 boards, and specific to the boards with an ending
> >> >> > serial
> >> >> > like "-A02" along the side close to IDE/floppy connectors."
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I am not sure if the above scenario pertains to your board, but if
> > you
> >> >> > have another supply sitting around (who doesn't?) it might be
worth
> >> >> > trying a swap to see if the issue goes away. I ended up with an
> >> >> > Enermax EG465AX-VE(W) because I liked the current distribution on
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > various rails, especially the 35amp rating of the 3.3vdc bus.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I hope the resolution proves to be an easy one.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Regards,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Ender
> >> >> > ____
> >> >> > [____]
> >> >> > (OIIIIIIO)
> >> >> > [] []
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
 
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Thank You

John


"Aldo Larrabiata" <duschmoll@racer.com> wrote in message
news:41ab867f$0$9029$8fcfb975@news.wanadoo.fr...
> Correct values.
>
> As a reminder:
> Supply nominal trip-off thresholds
> voltage ratings min/nom/max (indicative)
> +12V +11.4 to +12.6 13.4 / 15 / 15.6
> +5V +4.75 to +5.25 5.74 / 6.3 / 7.0
> +3.3V +3.14 to +3.47 3.76 / 4.2 / 4.3
> -12V -10.8 to -13.20
> +5VSB +4.75 to +5.25
>
>
> "John McCoy" <johnm160@hotmail.com> a écrit dans le message news:
> NuGdnW9Gf56-5TfcRVn-sQ@comcast.com...
>> Thanks, I am getting the following readings.
>>
>> +12 11.49 +5 5.11 Core 1.60
>> no -12 no -5 and Aux is 3.20V
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> "Aldo Larrabiata" <duschmoll@racer.com> wrote in message
>> news:41aa1d45$0$17383$8fcfb975@news.wanadoo.fr...
>> > Take care, the first day my PSU failed, I put an old 300W in my system.
>> > Close to be overloaded. Ripple was quite high and the +12V was
>> > exceeding
> a
>> > bit the rating (12.68 V inst.of 12.6 max).
>> > Harmful for the electronics.
>> >
>> > Rush on the Antec !
>> >
>> >
>> > "John McCoy" <johnm160@hotmail.com> a écrit dans le message news:
>> > xZCdnUGxGcLmazTcRVn-iA@comcast.com...
>> >> Thanks, I popped in my old Supermicro 300W and the system powered up
> fine
>> >> this morning. MY only concern is that this power supply is not
>> >> powerful
>> >> enough, I can get an Antec locally today which I may do.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Aldo Larrabiata" <duschmoll@racer.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:41a9bd28$0$30409$8fcfb975@news.wanadoo.fr...
>> >> >I have a very bad experience with Enermax:
>> >> >
>> >> > Last year my son offered a front panel for my birthday. The power
>> >> > supply
>> >> > was
>> >> > inverted. Fortunately, only my CD burmer was connected to it. I
>> >> > fried
>> > it,
>> >> > applying 15 V to the 5V input. It's a __ manufacturer error __, not
>> >> > a
>> >> > failure.
>> >> >
>> >> > My 465 W PSU failed 9 months after purchase, didn't start. It was
> under
>> >> > guatanty and I tried to have another brand because of my lack of
>> >> > confidence
>> >> > in Enermax and the non-availability.
>> >> >
>> >> > I got another one loaned by the dealer and mine was finally
>> >> > exchanged
>> > 3.5
>> >> > months later. I had to return at the dealer (20 km) because the new
> one
>> >> > wasn't compatible with the MoBo (extended connector). They picked an
>> >> > adapter
>> >> > from another model and gave it to me.
>> >> >
>> >> > May be I got two lemons. Dunno ! but I won't buy Enermax again.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > "John McCoy" <johnm160@hotmail.com> a écrit dans le message news:
>> >> > y7OdnR_IRdXhnDTcRVn-uA@comcast.com...
>> >> >> Thanks, I have an Enermax 465 that worked fine with my P4TE but I
>> >> >> wouldn't
>> >> >> rule that out. I have 2 fans not working which does point to the
> power
>> >> >> supply, the power supply is about 2 years old.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I need to get one for my wife, any suggestions on a good one? Is
> Antec
>> >> >> any
>> >> >> good, that last post led me to believe that wasn't a good option,
>> >> >> where
>> >> >> is
>> >> > a
>> >> >> good place to order a PS from?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I would like to try the power supply first before betting on the
>> >> >> CPU
>> >> >> since
>> >> >> this is a retail chip and the odds of it being bad are slim.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Thanks
>> >> >> John
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Ender"
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> <enderwiggin3rd@SBhotmail.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:0kchq0dcfov73t6mn2578e7hq8eqc2rdfi@4ax.com...
>> >> >> > On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 11:42:01 -0500, "John McCoy"
>> >> >> > <johnm160@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >>I just upgraded and bought a P4C800-E Deluxe board, a Northwood
> 3.0
>> > GHz
>> >> >> >>CPU
>> >> >> >>and 2 512 MB of OCZ PC3200 DDR400 ram and a Seagate 160 GB SATA
>> > drive.
>> >> >> >>I
>> >> >> >>had
>> >> >> >>the worst time ever bringing this machine up. I get a warning
>> >> >> >>that
>> > the
>> >> > CPU
>> >> >> >>failed the check test. I upgraded the bios and it is better but
> when
>> > it
>> >> > is
>> >> >> >>cold I got this error this morning I rebooted it twice and it was
>> > fine.
>> >> >> >>Once
>> >> >> >>it is up it is solid as a rock.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>Has anyone seen this before? Is there a fix?
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>Thanks
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> > Hi,
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Sorry you are having trouble with the system. I have exactly the
>> > same
>> >> >> > selection of CPU (3.0g Northwood), motherboard, and OCZ 3200 RAM,
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > only difference with my setup is that I chose a different SATA
> drive
>> >> >> > (WD Raptor 74g). My first thought would be that the CPU fail
> report
>> >> >> > may be valid. The CPU may have an issue when cold. It could be
>> >> >> > an
>> >> >> > internal fault with any number of its components at startup. You
>> >> >> > might contact your vendor and discuss an exchange. (Hopefully
> they
>> >> >> > will send you a nice new Northwood.)
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > My second thought would be to try a different power supply. Is it
>> >> >> > possible that it is marginal on the vcore rail? I have seen
>> >> >> > posts
>> >> >> > regarding various power supplies and the P4C800-E Deluxe where
> even
>> >> >> > though the total power rating of the supply is impressive, there
> was
>> >> >> > an incompatibility. From a post last June in this group:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > "There was a specific incompatibility between some ANTEC PSU's
>> >> >> > and
> a
>> >> >> > P4B800E delux.The issue is supposed to be related to ASUS not
>> >> >> > recognizing the voltage +5 pin4, on the ATX connector. This is
> only
>> >> >> > for rev 1.02 boards, and specific to the boards with an ending
>> >> >> > serial
>> >> >> > like "-A02" along the side close to IDE/floppy connectors."
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I am not sure if the above scenario pertains to your board, but
>> >> >> > if
>> > you
>> >> >> > have another supply sitting around (who doesn't?) it might be
> worth
>> >> >> > trying a swap to see if the issue goes away. I ended up with an
>> >> >> > Enermax EG465AX-VE(W) because I liked the current distribution on
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > various rails, especially the 35amp rating of the 3.3vdc bus.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I hope the resolution proves to be an easy one.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Regards,
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Ender
>> >> >> > ____
>> >> >> > [____]
>> >> >> > (OIIIIIIO)
>> >> >> > [] []
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
 
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It turns out the motherboard was flaky after all. I replaced it and the so
far so good.

Thanks



"Ender" <enderwiggin3rd@SBhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:0kchq0dcfov73t6mn2578e7hq8eqc2rdfi@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 11:42:01 -0500, "John McCoy"
> <johnm160@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>I just upgraded and bought a P4C800-E Deluxe board, a Northwood 3.0 GHz
>>CPU
>>and 2 512 MB of OCZ PC3200 DDR400 ram and a Seagate 160 GB SATA drive. I
>>had
>>the worst time ever bringing this machine up. I get a warning that the CPU
>>failed the check test. I upgraded the bios and it is better but when it is
>>cold I got this error this morning I rebooted it twice and it was fine.
>>Once
>>it is up it is solid as a rock.
>>
>>Has anyone seen this before? Is there a fix?
>>
>>Thanks
>>
> Hi,
>
> Sorry you are having trouble with the system. I have exactly the same
> selection of CPU (3.0g Northwood), motherboard, and OCZ 3200 RAM, the
> only difference with my setup is that I chose a different SATA drive
> (WD Raptor 74g). My first thought would be that the CPU fail report
> may be valid. The CPU may have an issue when cold. It could be an
> internal fault with any number of its components at startup. You
> might contact your vendor and discuss an exchange. (Hopefully they
> will send you a nice new Northwood.)
>
> My second thought would be to try a different power supply. Is it
> possible that it is marginal on the vcore rail? I have seen posts
> regarding various power supplies and the P4C800-E Deluxe where even
> though the total power rating of the supply is impressive, there was
> an incompatibility. From a post last June in this group:
>
> "There was a specific incompatibility between some ANTEC PSU's and a
> P4B800E delux.The issue is supposed to be related to ASUS not
> recognizing the voltage +5 pin4, on the ATX connector. This is only
> for rev 1.02 boards, and specific to the boards with an ending serial
> like "-A02" along the side close to IDE/floppy connectors."
>
> I am not sure if the above scenario pertains to your board, but if you
> have another supply sitting around (who doesn't?) it might be worth
> trying a swap to see if the issue goes away. I ended up with an
> Enermax EG465AX-VE(W) because I liked the current distribution on the
> various rails, especially the 35amp rating of the 3.3vdc bus.
>
> I hope the resolution proves to be an easy one.
>
> Regards,
>
> Ender
> ____
> [____]
> (OIIIIIIO)
> [] []