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Well looks like they finnally heard us!
3 good new, HT is going to be off, they going to test the application independtly and they will raise the priority of the DIVX task. Now i dont know what a higher priority means for them but its probly going to be set at normal.

Finally we'll get a clear picture!

Perhaps this effect is caused by the operating system and re-scheduling events as a result of different core and application numbers.
Sure took them a long time!Better late than sorry and I guess a few thousand emails might help!

Finally I like the kind of hookups THG got...wow a intel technician just for them =0

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What is needed now is to re-enable HT on the P840 and set the DivX priority to normal on both machines, see what we get. That would be the next logical step, lets see if it happens.
This was mentioned by Weescotty in another thread. Personally, I agree with him. I want the Intel to be running at full potential as to not allow any pathetic excuses at the end.
 
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lol I know I was trying to compete!...Plus I usually click on (all) and sometimes its long...
Bleh i'll repost in your thread master
/me bows

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<A HREF="http://forumz.tomshardware.com/hardware/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=210030#210030" target="_new">Long *** thread here</A>

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switching off hyperthreading on intel is like switching of hypertransport on amd. its not sensible to do that. i think it should be on for the test to be fair. or else reduce the hypertransport multiplier on amd.
 
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Woohoo my thread is growing stronger!!!
Ummm i wonder what would happen if we turned off HyperTransport on the AMD...(dont try this at home kids)

The only point of turning HT off was because of the DIVX wich had a low priority therefore almost never running on the AMD. I kinda gave a unfair advantage to the Intel rig that could process four process(even a low priority one) easily because the Os tought there where 4 cpus...

Now I agree both cpu should run at their full potential so just upping the priority of the divx process to normal would make the test much more "fair".

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Hyperthreading helps in test like that THG's, but for anything else it's not so good, because you don't wan't low priority apps to take CPU cycles from high priority apps.

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Well keep in mind that its not literally taking over. HT is able to go squeeze a few % of unused cpu. So if some low priority thread is runnning 15% faster on a HT cpu half of that migh have been unused and the other half is "taken away" from the higher priority...

And I dont know about you but on my desktop 99.9% off the process are running at "normal" priority the only one that are not are F@H and divx encoding(wich I almostnever do and when its running im not doing anything else...)

Bottom line I still like my cpu to be HT it does allow for some smoother experience

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Bottom line I still like my cpu to be HT it does allow for some smoother experience
I would keep it on too if my AMD had HT, but it doesn't.. :frown:

So i admit that hyperthreading is good for <b>single core</b> desktop computers due to that smoothness.

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labbbby - haven't you realized by now it's not meant to be a fair test!
Update 8 proves it - It a totaly whitewashed, watered down summary of how without HT the P840 got owned by the X2.
We wont get a test with the P840 with HT and the X2 with the DivX app priority set to 'normal'.
They're scared about what the results might just be.

Plus I'll bet even with HT back on they will continue to the use the current board so we can't see exactly whats going on.

Thw whole thing smells very fishy.


<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by weescotty on 06/16/05 12:27 PM.</EM></FONT></P>
 
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Ya I totally agree with you.
That wont stop me from posting what I think
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I also agree. I want them to put a board on the Intel that will show us all the data, and put the HT back on.

Personally I think when that happens the EE might look pretty good in comparison. If the Intel had the HT back on I think we would see a much closer race. It would probably be beating the X2 on DivX but be lagging on others. But even then it looks better than it does now.
 

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Wouldn't worry about it Starfishy, they'll find someway of showing the P840 beat the X2 on all the tests, including the 3 it is losing BADLY.

Ooops update -
P840 now losing ALL 4 , lol.

<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by Weescotty on 06/16/05 07:06 PM.</EM></FONT></P>